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Old March 1st 08, 01:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Wish us luck. 'Cash' the beagle comes to his new home with us tomorrow.
He's a 2YO rescue sort, with a sweet nature who's more than a bit upset to
be alone uless in his 'den' (and then, not happy for long if he is other
than snoozing at night).



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Old March 2nd 08, 05:55 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Wish us luck. 'Cash' the beagle comes to his new home with us tomorrow.
He's a 2YO rescue sort, with a sweet nature who's more than a bit upset to
be alone uless in his 'den' (and then, not happy for long if he is other
than snoozing at night).


2 more hours! We just got some more toys g. Moved his 'den' to the
livingroom. There, he can hear Don snore better and know he's in the thick
of the family at night.

Forgot one thing. I need a water device for inside his den I think? I'm
worried I may have gotten a den too small but the books say if too big, he
won't be happy. It's 3/4 covered with a blanket with the side nearest our
rooms open so he can hear us snooze.

Next is how much to feed him. Looks like 1 cup per meal. He'll get a wet
treat at night (looks like about 1/2 cup in a pouch) along with 1/2 cup dry.
The wet treat is to be given the same time Daisy (cat) gets her wet treat so
he doesnt get jealous g. Too bad we cant leave food out all the time but
Beagles are known to eat themselves silly if you do that. The cat food,
will be in a room he can't get into (but she can).


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Old March 2nd 08, 09:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 2008-03-02 11:55:18 -0500, "cshenk" said:

Moved his 'den' to the
livingroom. There, he can hear Don snore better and know he's in the thick
of the family at night.


You may want to move the crate into your bedroom. Being "near" and
"next to" are very different things.

Forgot one thing. I need a water device for inside his den I think? I'm
worried I may have gotten a den too small but the books say if too big, he
won't be happy. It's 3/4 covered with a blanket with the side nearest our
rooms open so he can hear us snooze.


We don't have water in the crate because the dogs have access to a
water dish. They don't need a drink (usually) when they are sleeping.
Their last out is around 10:30 PM and they go out at 7 AM. They are not
normally thirsty between those times.

We also don't feed in the crate although many people do.

Next is how much to feed him. Looks like 1 cup per meal.


Most food instructions suggest way too much food for dogs. I'd weight
the dog A.S.A.P. and feed it a certain amount for a week and see if the
weight is the same at the end of the week.

He'll get a wet
treat at night (looks like about 1/2 cup in a pouch) along with 1/2 cup dry.
The wet treat is to be given the same time Daisy (cat) gets her wet treat so
he doesnt get jealous g. Too bad we cant leave food out all the time but
Beagles are known to eat themselves silly if you do that. The cat food,
will be in a room he can't get into (but she can).


What time at night? This may cause trouble with house
training/elimination schedules if you feed too late. Problems with
house training make people unhappy with their dogs. Why do you prefer
wet food?

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Old March 2nd 08, 09:39 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"montana wildhack" wrote

Moved his 'den' to the
livingroom. There, he can hear Don snore better and know he's in the
thick
of the family at night.


You may want to move the crate into your bedroom. Being "near" and "next
to" are very different things.


Actually I would if I could, but there isnt room. Really. We have a nice
but small house and Don fell in love with this huge queensized stuff in
Sasebo Japan so it's jammed in there so tight now, we cant get a night stand
in g. A 2 ft clearance between the foot of the bed and the dresser.

Forgot one thing. I need a water device for inside his den I think? I'm
worried I may have gotten a den too small but the books say if too big,
he
won't be happy. It's 3/4 covered with a blanket with the side nearest
our
rooms open so he can hear us snooze.


We don't have water in the crate because the dogs have access to a water
dish. They don't need a drink (usually) when they are sleeping. Their last
out is around 10:30 PM and they go out at 7 AM. They are not normally
thirsty between those times.


Got same advice as we picked him up. Foster parents said with a beagle,
it's actually not a very good idea unless we want to get up at 2am and walk
him every night.

We also don't feed in the crate although many people do.


Not recommended for beagles. They eat themselves silly til they throw up if
given the chance.

Next is how much to feed him. Looks like 1 cup per meal.


Most food instructions suggest way too much food for dogs. I'd weight the
dog A.S.A.P. and feed it a certain amount for a week and see if the weight
is the same at the end of the week.


Thats a good idea! Will do. I saw the bag recommended 2.5 cups a day. One
book said 1/4 cup twice a day. I suspect a middle range is best.

(He's been here now about 1 hour, and laid down for a nap).

He'll get a wet
treat at night (looks like about 1/2 cup in a pouch) along with 1/2 cup
dry.
The wet treat is to be given the same time Daisy (cat) gets her wet treat
so
he doesnt get jealous g. Too bad we cant leave food out all the time
but
Beagles are known to eat themselves silly if you do that. The cat food,
will be in a room he can't get into (but she can).


What time at night? This may cause trouble with house training/elimination
schedules if you feed too late. Problems with house training make people
unhappy with their dogs. Why do you prefer wet food?


Our normal schedule when we had cats, was to treat with wet about the same
time we eat which would be 6pm. Bedtime is 10pm or later. If we wet treat
Daisy (cat), it seems unfair to not let Cash also have a wet treat as part
of his evening dinner. With cats at least, they really like that daily
'bit' and Don say's he's used to doing the same with dogs when he had them.
It's only part of the diner meal, the rest is dry food.


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Old March 2nd 08, 11:13 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 2008-03-02 15:39:41 -0500, "cshenk" said:


We also don't feed in the crate although many people do.


Not recommended for beagles. They eat themselves silly til they throw up if
given the chance.


Feeding in the crate simply means that you put the ration of food in a
bowl in the crate.

Thats a good idea! Will do. I saw the bag recommended 2.5 cups a day. One
book said 1/4 cup twice a day. I suspect a middle range is best.


Dogs can gain weight pretty quickly.


Our normal schedule when we had cats, was to treat with wet about the same
time we eat which would be 6pm. Bedtime is 10pm or later. If we wet treat
Daisy (cat), it seems unfair to not let Cash also have a wet treat as part
of his evening dinner. With cats at least, they really like that daily
'bit' and Don say's he's used to doing the same with dogs when he had them.
It's only part of the diner meal, the rest is dry food.


Ok, then. When you add the wet stuff, how much dry stuff do you need to
take away to balance the additional calories?

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Old March 3rd 08, 04:35 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"cshenk" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

"montana wildhack" wrote

You may want to move the crate into your bedroom. Being
"near" and "next to" are very different things.


Actually I would if I could, but there isnt room.


Make room, even if the dresser or a side table has to go away
for a while. This is an important bonding time.
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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Old March 3rd 08, 01:06 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Rocky wrote:


Make room, even if the dresser or a side table has to go away
for a while. This is an important bonding time.


I agree. While I'm anxious to move the crate out of the bedroom, I'm
never wanting the DOG out of the bedroom. I have a small bedroom, and
have had smaller. I manage to squeeze 3 retrievers in there anyway
(Lucy helps by sleeping UNDER the bed most of the time), and when
there's a puppy, there's a crate. I have a few bruises during that
period of time, but it's brief. Marcie only spent 1.5 months in a crate
in the bedroom before being given bedroom freedom.

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Old March 3rd 08, 05:02 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Why do you(or pet owners in general) keep the pup or dog in a crate? We
never kept any of our dogs in a crate, although we only had one dog at a
time. We used to set up a little fence/gate contraption when the dog was a
puppy, in order tpo keep her out of the living room, but after she was
reliably housebroken, the dog was allowed to go where she wanted, for the
most part. Mike.
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On 2008-03-02 11:55:18 -0500, "cshenk" said:

Moved his 'den' to the
livingroom. There, he can hear Don snore better and know he's in the
thick
of the family at night.


You may want to move the crate into your bedroom. Being "near" and "next
to" are very different things.

Forgot one thing. I need a water device for inside his den I think? I'm
worried I may have gotten a den too small but the books say if too big,
he
won't be happy. It's 3/4 covered with a blanket with the side nearest
our
rooms open so he can hear us snooze.


We don't have water in the crate because the dogs have access to a water
dish. They don't need a drink (usually) when they are sleeping. Their last
out is around 10:30 PM and they go out at 7 AM. They are not normally
thirsty between those times.

We also don't feed in the crate although many people do.

Next is how much to feed him. Looks like 1 cup per meal.


Most food instructions suggest way too much food for dogs. I'd weight the
dog A.S.A.P. and feed it a certain amount for a week and see if the weight
is the same at the end of the week.

He'll get a wet
treat at night (looks like about 1/2 cup in a pouch) along with 1/2 cup
dry.
The wet treat is to be given the same time Daisy (cat) gets her wet treat
so
he doesnt get jealous g. Too bad we cant leave food out all the time
but
Beagles are known to eat themselves silly if you do that. The cat food,
will be in a room he can't get into (but she can).


What time at night? This may cause trouble with house training/elimination
schedules if you feed too late. Problems with house training make people
unhappy with their dogs. Why do you prefer wet food?



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Old March 3rd 08, 05:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 2008-03-03 11:02:14 -0500, "mike d." said:

Why do you(or pet owners in general) keep the pup or dog in a crate?


We don't "keep" dogs in crates, but they are useful tools.

Sometimes dogs have to spend time at the vet because they are sick. If
they are happy in a crate at home, they won't be stressed in a crate at
the vets. I don't want a sick dog further stressed.

Our crate has an open door. It is the dogs' "room" and they can come
and go as they like.

If we need to transport a dog, it's safer to have them in a crate in the car.

When we have house trained dogs and couldn't tether them for some
reason (like we were sleeping), having a crate in the room was a
godsend. We could easily hear them stirring if they needed to go out.

When we had contractors in our house and we weren't home, it was safer
for everybody that dogs were napping in their crates.

If we travelled with dogs that were going through a heavy chewing
period, having the dog in a crate while we slept was a better choice
than closing it off in a bathroom or some place away from us.

So there are some of our reasons. It isn't possible to have dogs loose
at all times and we want them to think of the crate as their den.be
happy in their crates.

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"mike d." wrote:

Why do you(or pet owners in general) keep the pup or dog in a crate? We
never kept any of our dogs in a crate, although we only had one dog at a
time. We used to set up a little fence/gate contraption when the dog was a
puppy, in order tpo keep her out of the living room, but after she was
reliably housebroken, the dog was allowed to go where she wanted, for the
most part. Mike.


Problem prevention of many sorts - acclimation to other pets,
housebreaking and chewing issues when not supervised, most dogs feel
comfortable in their "den". It's not something used 24/7.

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