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Old March 4th 08, 01:52 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Rudy, 2yo Golden, is a gassy boy. Always has been. but much more
sometimes than others. He's also a poop eater by choice (but not by
practice), and urinary incontinent (takes Proin).

He can clear a room.

For the last month+ we've been trying Unleashed digestive enzymes. No
improvement. He's currently eating Innova Evo RF, although we've tried
raw (BRAVO), Wellness CORE, SG Barking at the Moon, regular EVO. As a
puppy he was on California Natural and I don't recall the gas being an
issue then, but memory isn't always great! I think all of the foods have
been turkey based (including the raw), with the exception of the CA
Natural.

I've considered putting him back on a food with some grain (either CA
Natural or Nature's Variety Prairie). Is there a possibility that his
digestive tract need grain to function a bit better?

His stool is normal, no problems there.

Any thoughts on what may do the trick for him, so we can risk lighting a
match?

Another issue is that with 3 dogs, I would really prefer to not feed
more than 2 different foods. I just don't have the space for it. I
would like him to eat the same thing my 11 yo does (and she does very
well on grain free) or the 5 mo puppy does (she won't go grain free
until 1, if then). The puppy currently eats Prairie Chicken.

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Old March 4th 08, 03:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Janet Boss wrote:
Rudy, 2yo Golden, is a gassy boy. Always has been. but much more
sometimes than others. He's also a poop eater by choice (but not by
practice), and urinary incontinent (takes Proin).

He can clear a room.

Any thoughts on what may do the trick for him, so we can risk lighting a
match?


Actually, lighting a match will probably remove the odor from the
room. Candles work, too.

Both his diet and his particular mix of intestinal flora
contribute to the odor of his gas. Have you tried adding yogurt
with live cultures to his food? Or probiotic capsules with a
variety of strains of lactobacillus bacteria. I've read
(somewhere) that there is some evidence that changing the mix of
intestinal bacteria with lactobacillus can help with gas and odor
problems. (And yes, the bacteria do survive stomach acid - nearly
90 percent of the cells in and on your body belong to bacteria,
the majority in the large intestine, and bacteria don't enter the
gut through the back door.)

Another approach is activated charcoal capsules. (They will turn
the stool black.)

I don't know if either of these will work, but they are pretty
innocuous, as far as I know.

James Herriot wrote about a particularly gassy dog in one of his
books, but I don't think he ever found a solution.

FurPaw

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Old March 4th 08, 04:08 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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FurPaw wrote:

James Herriot wrote about a particularly gassy dog in one of his books,
but I don't think he ever found a solution.


A Boxer. The dog was rehomed with someone who could not smell.

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Old March 4th 08, 04:29 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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ceb wrote:

How about a lamb-based food? I've always heard that lamb is easiest on
dogs with sensitive stomachs -- easier to digest.


Lamb can make some dogs stink to high heavens, even before
considering any potential emissions.

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Old March 4th 08, 04:40 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Shelly wrote in news:fqjpt5$vil$2
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ceb wrote:

How about a lamb-based food? I've always heard that lamb is easiest on
dogs with sensitive stomachs -- easier to digest.


Lamb can make some dogs stink to high heavens, even before
considering any potential emissions.


I did not know that! It's worked well for my dogs -- Zoe has a sensitive
stomach -- so I thought it might be worth a try for Janet's problem.

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Old March 4th 08, 04:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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ceb wrote:

I did not know that!


I think it's one of those things that's highly individual, but
common enough to warrant a heads up.

It's worked well for my dogs -- Zoe has a sensitive
stomach -- so I thought it might be worth a try for Janet's problem.


Rudy might be just fine with lamb.

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Old March 4th 08, 04:47 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Janet Boss wrote:
The puppy currently eats Prairie Chicken.


Why not try him on Marcie's food?

I ditto the recommendation to try yogurt with live and active
cultures. It did a world of good for Harriet's paint peeling gas.
After awhile, I was able to ween her off it, and have only had to
reintroduce it when she's been on antibiotics.

Now, she only gets stinky when she's fed stuff like cabbage (thanks,
mom!).

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Old March 4th 08, 04:48 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message:

He can clear a room.


Khan could clear PetsMart. I'm not quite sure why we adopted him, having
known that.

Anyway, with him, home made low/non-fat yogurt worked wonderfully well. I
still give it occasionally, and now that he's on antibiotics for at least 10
days, he'll be getting some daily. Someone at the pet store said that they
give charcoal biscuits to their gassy dog (Lab), and it helps a lot. No
personal experience with it, though.

Suja


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Old March 4th 08, 04:50 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Shelly" wrote in message :

Lamb can make some dogs stink to high heavens, even before
considering any potential emissions.


Yeah, you've got to try individual foods and see how they do on it. I had
tried Pinnacle/Wellness fish based foods with the dogs, and Pan stank like
dead fish. The SG Bison has salmon in it, but she's non-smelly on it,
except for having fish breath.

Suja


 




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