c wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:20 am, "kat" wrote:
"c" wrote in message

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On Apr 2, 5:24 pm, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:54:43 -0700 (PDdT), c
wrote:
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There are 2 different types that frequent this group: the high falutin
city folk that believe dogs should be treated like children, and the
answer for any problem is "enroll them in class and spend $300 to
teach them not to do it, and put them in time-out, but be sure their
paw socks are on before stepping outside if under 50 degrees, etc."
Or the old school style like me: treat a dog like a dog. Be the pack
leader, a snout slap here and there works wonders, never be greedy
with the REAL people food left-overs, but don't let them demand it.
Barking is in our dog's genes. For thousands of years we bred dogs to
be our guards, and now we want to change them to be our buddies only,
in 100 years timespan. Isn't gonna happen, but at least we have
electricity
sigh
Damn, is there a troll convention in town?
I sure wish they all wore silly-looking hats, like the Shriners.
Sometimes it's hard to pick up the smell of troll **** until you've
stepped in it.
ah yes, that new definition of troll - newsgroup frequenter who's
views don't match that of the old timers
Do you also let your dog ride in the back of pickup trucks? Are you
acquainted with Peter? Are you Peter?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Kathy



hehe, I think I'd like this peter guy. Yes, growing up in NM our dogs
did ride in the back of the truck, and they loved it! So did the kids
though.

I grew up in NM, too, and as a child I SAW a dog get thrown from
the back of a pickup truck when the truck swerved to avoid
something in the road. It wasn't pretty.

The fact that the state is full of idiots who can't think through
the likely consequences of putting unrestrained dogs or children
in the back of a pickup - even if they do "love it!" - doesn't
mean that it was ever a smart thing to do.

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

In article ,
c wrote:
hehe, I think I'd like this peter guy. Yes, growing up in NM our dogs
did ride in the back of the truck, and they loved it!

I guess it's nice that you're doing your bit to perpetuate
the notion that country people are crude morons who treat
our pets like crap. Or maybe not.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Apr 3, 9:47 am, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,

c wrote:
hehe, I think I'd like this peter guy. Yes, growing up in NM our dogs
did ride in the back of the truck, and they loved it!

I guess it's nice that you're doing your bit to perpetuate
the notion that country people are crude morons who treat
our pets like crap. Or maybe not.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Or you could look at it from the other side: city folks are safety
obsessed nuts who treat their dogs like kids and keep em locked up in
crates for hours on end. From my experience, country dogs are much
happier and more healthy. We only visited the vet a handful of times,
and usually to remove porcupine needles from their faces.

Would you rather live in a padded cell, wearing bike helmet, nibbling
on power bars and eating your fiber cereal, enjoying the ultimate
safety, or travel the world in an old yacht and face the risks of
life? I'd choose the later.

c

In article
,
c wrote:


Or you could look at it from the other side: city folks are safety
obsessed nuts who treat their dogs like kids and keep em locked up in
crates for hours on end. From my experience, country dogs are much
happier and more healthy. We only visited the vet a handful of times,
and usually to remove porcupine needles from their faces.

Oh noooooo! I live in the 'burbs, so I don't know what to choose. *I*
know - I'll choose to treat my dogs like beloved pets and family
members. Not children, not "locked" in crates for hours, but not under
a weird "country folk" impression that "all dogs should run free and
never get preventative care/training/supervision/containment".

Life is full of risks. That doesn't mean throwing all caution to the
wind and standing in front of the oncoming train makes any sense at all.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"c" wrote in message
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On Apr 2, 5:24 pm, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:54:43 -0700 (PDdT), c
wrote:

[...]

There are 2 different types that frequent this group: the high falutin
city folk that believe dogs should be treated like children, and the
answer for any problem is "enroll them in class and spend $300 to
teach them not to do it, and put them in time-out, but be sure their
paw socks are on before stepping outside if under 50 degrees, etc."

Or the old school style like me: treat a dog like a dog. Be the pack
leader, a snout slap here and there works wonders, never be greedy
with the REAL people food left-overs, but don't let them demand it.

Barking is in our dog's genes. For thousands of years we bred dogs to
be our guards, and now we want to change them to be our buddies only,
in 100 years timespan. Isn't gonna happen, but at least we have
electricity

sigh

Damn, is there a troll convention in town?

I sure wish they all wore silly-looking hats, like the Shriners.

Sometimes it's hard to pick up the smell of troll **** until you've
stepped in it.




ah yes, that new definition of troll - newsgroup frequenter who's
views don't match that of the old timers

Do you also let your dog ride in the back of pickup trucks? Are you
acquainted with Peter? Are you Peter?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Kathy

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:10:15 -0700 (PDT), c
wrote:

[...]
Would you rather live in a padded cell, wearing bike helmet, nibbling
on power bars and eating your fiber cereal,

Just how many people do you know who live in a padded cell?

This could explain a lot!

enjoying the ultimate
safety, or travel the world in an old yacht and face the risks of
life? I'd choose the later.

So would I!

But I'd never *foolishly* risk my dogs' lives.

By the way, I bet you'd want that old yacht to be seaworthy, wouldn't
you?

Why take *foolish* risks, right?

Well, don't your dogs deserve that same consideration?

--
Handsome "Jack" Morrison

Only 1 of 2 students graduate high school in US cities: study. Who should bear the blame?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1

Pat Condell on the "Fitna" fury (don't miss this one, folks!)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...itna_Fury&only

Hillary camp’s subprime sanctimony.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/31...me-sanctimony/

Video: Octogenarian WWII paratrooper 1, teen mugger 0.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/2...teen-mugger-0/

Let's hope that this is true.
http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/...news2.13s.html

Hear ye! Hear ye! Scientists explain 'global warming stopped a decade ago'.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...9-7583,00.html
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/2...mputer-models/

A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

In article ,
c wrote:
Would you rather live in a padded cell, wearing bike helmet, nibbling
on power bars and eating your fiber cereal, enjoying the ultimate
safety, or travel the world in an old yacht and face the risks of
life? I'd choose the later.

A rational person evaluates the tradeoffs. There is
considerable risk to riding your dog in the bed of your
truck, and no real benefit unless you're insufferably prissy
and afraid of a little dirt and a little dog hair.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Apr 2, 5:01 pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,

c wrote:
Or the old school style like me:

That's actually no-school - don't bother to learn how to
train a dog.

Barking is in our dog's genes. For thousands of years we bred dogs to
be our guards,

Um, no. It depends on the breed - dogs were bred to do a
pretty wide variety of jobs. Not to mention that the
barkiest dogs tend to be from the herding breeds.

Anyway, why do you think you didn't have internet access 30
years ago?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Melinda, all dogs share a common ancestor ... current theories say
they all started from wolves. At that point certain wolves learned the
benefit of living with a pack of humans. After that we bred them to
favor the more mild mannered, and picked the traits we wanted. So
initially, yes they were our protectors and we favored the guard
types.

Or I suppose you could believe there was a Chiahuahua and a Great Dane
on Noah's Ark. For God's sake, I hope there was a dog trainer on the
ark too

c

On Apr 2, 5:01 pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,

c wrote:
Or the old school style like me:

That's actually no-school - don't bother to learn how to
train a dog.

Barking is in our dog's genes. For thousands of years we bred dogs to
be our guards,

Um, no. It depends on the breed - dogs were bred to do a
pretty wide variety of jobs. Not to mention that the
barkiest dogs tend to be from the herding breeds.

Anyway, why do you think you didn't have internet access 30
years ago?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

We didn't have internet 30 years ago because Al Gore hadn't invented
yet, silly.

In article ,
c wrote:
Melinda, all dogs share a common ancestor ... current theories say
they all started from wolves.

So how desperate are you to win your arguments, exactly?

Crikey. What a loser.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community