In article WBvKj.41201$_v3.14380@edtnps90,
Phyrie wrote:
I wonder why
you are getting this upset over some friend of Paul's calling his own wife a
bitch.

What's "this upset?" I think it's offensive and I said so.
But I'll tell you what - if I were Paul's friend's wife I
would be upset, not because of the insult to me in
particular but because of the general contempt for women
expressed through that particular choice of words.

When I was in high school right after the schools were
integrated, during some down time in gym class some black
girls were standing at the end of the track, singing and
dancing. And a white classmate leaned over to me and said
"They want to be called 'Afro-American' but some of them are
just 'n*'." So don't even *think* about pulling that "it's
not all women, it's that woman" ****.
--
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

"Phyrie" wrote in news:I%uKj.41178
$_v3.29274@edtnps90:

A sort of funny comment.

Not so much, actually.

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"Phyrie" wrote in
news:IbvKj.41186$_v3.21806@edtnps90:

I suppose so. Is there some sort of required amusement level? I
guess I didn't read the rules carefully enough.

YMMV, but I draw the line at misogynist bullshit.

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"Phyrie" wrote in news:givKj.41193
$_v3.9466@edtnps90:

It was Paul's friend who referred to dogs and bitches (why
don't you have a problem with men being called dogs?)

They weren't. "Dog" in this context = ugly woman.

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(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:fte1ek$7ak$1
@panix3.panix.com:

What's "this upset?"

It's something that uppity wimmins get when righteous menfolk make
misogynist jokes. Or something. There seems to be a certain mindset
that thinks someone can't object to something unless it "upsets"
them.

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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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What's "this upset?" I think it's offensive and I said so.
But I'll tell you what - if I were Paul's friend's wife I
would be upset, not because of the insult to me in
particular but because of the general contempt for women
expressed through that particular choice of words.

When I was in high school right after the schools were
integrated, during some down time in gym class some black
girls were standing at the end of the track, singing and
dancing. And a white classmate leaned over to me and said
"They want to be called 'Afro-American' but some of them are
just 'n*'." So don't even *think* about pulling that "it's
not all women, it's that woman" ****.

Not all people have quite the same visceral reaction to the word as you.
You seem to be highly sensitive to the word "bitch". I have no idea why,
but to me it's not that big a deal. I know full well that I can be as
bitchy as all get out at times. I have described myself that way if I'm
feeling out of sorts or in greater than usual pain on a given day. So we
disagree about how offensive the term "bitch" is. Fair enough. You still
are ignoring what it was about the comment I found mildly amusing. I
couldn't care less what Paul's friends think about their spouses. I don't
know them, never will, and wouldn't try to change their opinion of their
loved ones if I did. That wasn't the point of his post. And I made it more
than clear that it wasn't the use of the term "bitch" I found funny, but you
don't want to see that.

Phyrie
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"Shelly" wrote in message
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"Phyrie" wrote in news:givKj.41193
$_v3.9466@edtnps90:

It was Paul's friend who referred to dogs and bitches (why
don't you have a problem with men being called dogs?)

They weren't. "Dog" in this context = ugly woman.

I didn't read it that way.

Phyrie
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

"Phyrie" wrote in news:E_vKj.41211
$_v3.32189@edtnps90:

I didn't read it that way.

So no one else is allowed to read it that way? Because given Paul's
history, that's absolutely what I think he meant.

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"Phyrie" wrote in
news:2ZvKj.41210$_v3.34823@edtnps90:

Not all people have quite the same visceral reaction to the word
as you.

Yep, it's not possible to object to something without being "upset"
or having a physical reaction to it. WTF?! Do you even know what
the word visceral means?

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In article 2ZvKj.41210$_v3.34823@edtnps90,
Phyrie wrote:
Not all people have quite the same visceral reaction to the word as you.

Well, *DUH*, and lots of people have no objection to all
sorts of sexist/racist/antisemitic/homophobic epithets. My
classmate was totally comfortable with the word "n*gger,"
too, and I would hope it would not lead you to think that
that word was more acceptable because of Linda's casual use
of it.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community