On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:42:22 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article , diddy none
wrote:

But I like him escorting me on his arm, and opening doors, etc. It's just
old fashioned courtesy. Making any more than that out of it is just silly.

HJM was the one who said he needed to "guide and protect".

So what? What else would you call it? When I walk through a crowd,
it parts like Moses parted the Red Sea. Again, I'm a big guy.

What decent man, in his right mind, would ever allow his smallish wife
to be jostled and bumped, perhaps even injured, when he could prevent
it?

Really, what ****ing planet are you from?

I have no problem with my husband opening doors, holding my hand, etc.
He doesn't have a problem with me doing so either. We don't pretend he
has to be "protecting" me.

The question is, why would he ever want to?

[...]
Ever been to Italy? Gads - women walk on cobblestone streets in
stillettos and don't have any need for protection - they speed walk!

Maybe they wouldn't have to "speed walk" if they had a guy with them?

Freakin' maroon.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Dialogue on race could begin on hallowed ground.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...0,148856.story

Faces of evil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...id=1770&ct= 5

Christian Church Discovers Bold Way To Make Itself More Relevant and Inclusive -- Omit All That Divisive Christ-Stuff.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/258752.php

Obama's Dimestore 'Mein Kampf'.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831

The cowardice and intolerance of slapping a Darwin fish on your car bumper.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...lumn?track=rss

A snapshot of government-run health care.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...84889820080320

The Double Life of Barack Obama, by Thomas Sowell.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...hiOTM2MDI5NzM=

A message for Melinda Shore, Shelly Couvrette, et al., from The UK's Pat Condell!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ing_Islam&only

A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:44:33 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:


I'm a big guy, she's a rather petite woman

Of course she is. Women are supposed to be
"weak" in your mind.

You are the dumbest ****ing **** I've ever encountered.

Only an embecile would equate the word petite with weak (and that's
without knowing my wife).

Or a big fat man-eating bimbo.

Or both.

spit

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Dialogue on race could begin on hallowed ground.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...0,148856.story

Faces of evil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...id=1770&ct= 5

Christian Church Discovers Bold Way To Make Itself More Relevant and Inclusive -- Omit All That Divisive Christ-Stuff.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/258752.php

Obama's Dimestore 'Mein Kampf'.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831

The cowardice and intolerance of slapping a Darwin fish on your car bumper.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...lumn?track=rss

A snapshot of government-run health care.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...84889820080320

The Double Life of Barack Obama, by Thomas Sowell.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...hiOTM2MDI5NzM=

A message for Melinda Shore, Shelly Couvrette, et al., from The UK's Pat Condell!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ing_Islam&only

A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:47:00 -0500, diddy none wrote:

[...]
I hold doors for everyone. Thank people that do so for me. Support the
elderly or infirm as appropriate, regardless of gender. If high heels
makes one suddenly infirm, they seem like a really bad idea.

Ever been to Italy? Gads - women walk on cobblestone streets in
stillettos and don't have any need for protection - they speed walk!


K- I thought there was a generation gap syndrome going on here.

Yeah, there's that, but this is about ideology, radical feminism, etc.

And man-eating.

I feel sorry for her husband.

Apparently
the deed is not in question as much as the syntax surrounding the deed and
perceptions tied to it. Ror whatever reason Jack chooses to escort his
wife, I'm sure she appreciates it.

Yeah, she does.

And I like it when she's happy.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Dialogue on race could begin on hallowed ground.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...0,148856.story

Faces of evil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...id=1770&ct= 5

Christian Church Discovers Bold Way To Make Itself More Relevant and Inclusive -- Omit All That Divisive Christ-Stuff.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/258752.php

Obama's Dimestore 'Mein Kampf'.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831

The cowardice and intolerance of slapping a Darwin fish on your car bumper.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...lumn?track=rss

A snapshot of government-run health care.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...84889820080320

The Double Life of Barack Obama, by Thomas Sowell.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...hiOTM2MDI5NzM=

A message for Melinda Shore, Shelly Couvrette, et al., from The UK's Pat Condell!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ing_Islam&only

A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

"Handsome Jack Morrison" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:37:52 -0500, diddy none wrote:

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diddy said
I don't like heels. With 7 herniated discs.. heels are not a reality. If I
wore them, my husband would be escorting my wheelchair.


HJM said

My wife claims that high heels are very comfortable for her, provided
they're fitted properly. She's a rather petite woman, so maybe that
has something to do with it. I don't know, and I don't care.

It's *her* choice. Not some fat, man-eating bimbo's choice.


I like to wear wedge heels, comfortable, more so than flat shoes in many
cases. And I can *feel* tall. ;-) Plus if you wear boot cut jeans, you
need something with some heel to it or you're constantly stepping on your
pants.



But I like him escorting me on his arm, and opening doors, etc. It's just
old fashioned courtesy. Making any more than that out of it is just silly.


I certainly agree with you, diddy. In fact I can't think of anything nicer
than walking arm in arm along the beach at night. We did that on our first
date and still enjoy doing it today. Probably more so in many ways. We
have a long and meaningful *history* behind us now. And yes, on a chilly
night, I very much enjoy a warm, strong arm around my shoulders. Frankly, I
know I will enjoy that until the day I die. I have no interest in wearing
the jock strap in my family. Doesn't mean I don't get my *say* in. My
husband would scoff at the idea I wasn't strong, stubborn and opinionated.



Of course it's silly! And hypocritical, and mean-spirited, and petty.

They just don't teach young-uns manners anymore

In some circles, that's called "progressive."

**** progressive.

I absolutely adore my grandsons and see them growing into wonderful young
gentleman, very much like their fathers and grandfather. What I'm saying
is, I agree, **** progressive. Since when did good manners and upbringing
go out of fashion? Certainly not here, anyway.


td

"Phyrie" wrote in
news:kjyKj.42977$_v3.11603@edtnps90:

Holy **** me, now I'm a troll?! *boggle*

Boggle, indeed. Please try to read for comprehension, as I said no
such thing.

When did I say any *ists don't exist?!

I didn't say you did. I said that you denied having any *ists. I
call bullshit. We *all* have *ists. The problem is when you are so
blind to them that you refuse to acknowlege that they exist, and so
they go unexamined. That latter part is what you're doing. You
propped up Paul's misogyny, then vehemently denied that what you were
enabling a misogynist.

To provoke me into saying you're not a lady,

So your behavior is *my* fault? How does that work?

which you requested in the first place,

No, actually, I didn't.

and then be smug that I "scold"ed you, is just ridiculous.

Not smug. It's just that you wouldn't be the first person to use
that word to scold women for not being what you think they ought to
be.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Phyrie" wrote in
news:kbyKj.42878$_v3.22966@edtnps90:

What a weird world you live in, that being thought a lady is an
insult.

Melinda explained it pretty well, I think.

I was not scolding anyone.

Oh, for sure you were. That word is, in my experience, almost
universally used to scold women into meekly staying in their place.
Well, **** *that*!

And I haven't said anyone
needs to conform to anything.

Reread Melinda's post. By calling me a lady, then turning around and
telling me that I'm *not* a lady, you are telling me that I have
failed to conform to your definition of "ladiness." Whatever the
hell that is.

Where are you people reading this stuff??

Your posts.

Who the hell is Paulette?

Google is your friend. In short (though it should have been clear
from context), you aren't the first one to use that word as a
criticism.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"tiny dancer" wrote in
news
What I'm saying is, I agree, **** progressive.
Since when did good manners and upbringing go out of fashion?
Certainly not here, anyway.

Since when did progressive = lack of manners? Cuz if it does, then
Jack's the poster child for progressives. Ha!

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:16:56 -0400, "tiny dancer"
wrote:


It's *her* choice. Not some fat, man-eating bimbo's choice.

I like to wear wedge heels, comfortable, more so than flat shoes in many
cases. And I can *feel* tall. ;-) Plus if you wear boot cut jeans, you
need something with some heel to it or you're constantly stepping on your
pants.

TD, no explanation is necessary.

It's *your* choice.

Shelly chooses to wear combat boots and pink hair.

It's *her* choice.

Unfortunately, she thinks she's the only one who gets to choose.

[...]
In some circles, that's called "progressive."

**** progressive.

I absolutely adore my grandsons and see them growing into wonderful young
gentleman, very much like their fathers and grandfather.

When my daughters were dating, I used to watch through the window
(along with my wonderful wife) to see if their dates opened the car
door for them (among other things).

Not one guy failed to open their doors.

No "progressives" around here, thankyouverymuch.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Dialogue on race could begin on hallowed ground.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...0,148856.story

Faces of evil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...id=1770&ct= 5

Christian Church Discovers Bold Way To Make Itself More Relevant and Inclusive -- Omit All That Divisive Christ-Stuff.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/258752.php

Obama's Dimestore 'Mein Kampf'.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831

The cowardice and intolerance of slapping a Darwin fish on your car bumper.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...lumn?track=rss

A snapshot of government-run health care.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...84889820080320

The Double Life of Barack Obama, by Thomas Sowell.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...hiOTM2MDI5NzM=

A message for Melinda Shore, Shelly Couvrette, et al., from The UK's Pat Condell!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ing_Islam&only

A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

In article ,
tiny dancer wrote:
"Handsome Jack Morrison" wrote in message
.. .
It's *her* choice. Not some fat, man-eating bimbo's choice.
I like to wear wedge heels, comfortable, more so than flat shoes in many
cases.

I believe the reason these two get along is that they're
intellectual peers. I think Jack's wife probably bows to a
lot of pressure, but she's a grown-up and it's her
business. Be that as it may, the question is precisely
about choice. People who choose not to go with the girlbot
schtick get an awful lot of **** from you folks. 'Cause
they're all about "choice."
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

In article kbyKj.42878$_v3.22966@edtnps90,
Phyrie wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about.

If you don't understand what she's saying, why are you
arguing against it?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community