We have a great pyr/ saint mix. He is 14 months old and we have had
him for 6 months. He has been a great dog since we have gotten him.
We are able to leave him unattended in the house with no problems
(except a few destroyed toys).

We recently started a house renovation. Since this has happened, he
has been escaping out house. We went out of town and he jumped out of
our windows (through the screens). He even know how to open the
windows if they are not locked. Also, he has been getting out of our
6 foot privacy fence. Once he is gone, he wanders with no thought to
watch out for cars. I would love to keep my windows open, but he
leaves. Any suggestions? We could really use some help!

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npanko wrote:
We have a great pyr/ saint mix. He is 14 months old and we have had
him for 6 months. He has been a great dog since we have gotten him.
We are able to leave him unattended in the house with no problems
(except a few destroyed toys).

We recently started a house renovation. Since this has happened, he
has been escaping out house. We went out of town and he jumped out of
our windows (through the screens). He even know how to open the
windows if they are not locked. Also, he has been getting out of our
6 foot privacy fence. Once he is gone, he wanders with no thought to
watch out for cars. I would love to keep my windows open, but he
leaves. Any suggestions? We could really use some help!


This is a tough one. Roaming is great fun for dogs. Now that he's
discovered how to do it, it's very self-rewarding.


I had a dog once that escaped through screens and broke windows. Once
she was outside, she didn't go far, just found a dog to play with and
hung out. She was perfect when we were home with her, impossible to
contain when we were gone. We tried a crate, and that's what I'm going
to suggest you try first, but it took our Houdini 2 weeks to figure out
how to get out of that.


Eventually, we used a steel cable tie-out for when we couldn't be with
her. Normally, I don't love the idea of tie-outs, but that worked for
our dog. We think she liked being able to see the outside world and
interact with the occasional neighbor who would walk by and pet her.


I'll be interested to hear others' suggestions.


--Lia

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Julia Altshuler wrote:

He even know how to open the
windows if they are not locked. Also, he has been getting out of our
6 foot privacy fence.


I'll be interested to hear others' suggestions.

The choices are crating, LOCKING the windows (who leaves their home open
when they aren't home? ACK!), installing a barrier at the top of the
fence (coyote roller, angled topper, etc), and if push came to shove,
window bars.

I'd also be looking at the big picture. Is he intact and looking for
love? Is he exercised? Obedience trained? Structure to his life?
SA? As usual, more questions before answers.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:35 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
Julia Altshuler wrote:

He even know how to open the
windows if they are not locked. Also, he has been getting out of our
6 foot privacy fence.


I'll be interested to hear others' suggestions.

The choices are crating, LOCKING the windows (who leaves their home open
when they aren't home? ACK!), installing a barrier at the top of the
fence (coyote roller, angled topper, etc), and if push came to shove,
window bars.

With a dog that escapes from windows, special precautions have to be
taken, of course. But depending on where one lives, I don't think
it's particularly outrageous to leave windows open or partially open
when not home. I do it all the time.

Mustang Sally

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

With a dog that escapes from windows, special precautions have to be
taken, of course. But depending on where one lives, I don't think
it's particularly outrageous to leave windows open or partially open
when not home. I do it all the time.


I do too. Since Cubbe has never shown the least inclination to go
through a window, we leave them open in the summer. (There are screens.
They don't fit well and should be replaced.) Crime isn't a problem
much anyway, but if it were, that's what we've got the ferocious scary
barky dog for.


--Lia

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

But depending on where one lives, I don't think
it's particularly outrageous to leave windows open or partially open
when not home. I do it all the time.

I suppose not. I have had window locks that have allowed the windows to
be left partially open but locked. I've also left inaccessible (yes,
someone could bring a very tall ladder) upstairs windows open. We tend
to go from cold to hot so damn quickly around here, that we seem to have
few days where we're not using heat or ac!

Of course, I've also cursed that I don't leave windows unlocked when
I've had to break into my own house. I did remedy that need.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

In article ,
Julia Altshuler wrote:

Crime isn't a problem
much anyway, but if it were, that's what we've got the ferocious scary
barky dog for.

Maybe THAT is why I have been a window locker! We haven't had many
scary dogs. Lucy and Rudy *do* make a lot of noise though. Still, it
seems like window-open temperatures also are combined with high pollen
counts, so I have very few periods of time where I can have my windows
open. It kind of sucks.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:22:16 -0400, Julia Altshuler
wrote:

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

With a dog that escapes from windows, special precautions have to be
taken, of course. But depending on where one lives, I don't think
it's particularly outrageous to leave windows open or partially open
when not home. I do it all the time.


I do too. Since Cubbe has never shown the least inclination to go
through a window, we leave them open in the summer. (There are screens.
They don't fit well and should be replaced.) Crime isn't a problem
much anyway, but if it were, that's what we've got the ferocious scary
barky dog for.

We don't have much crime in our town, either, and we have two of the
barkiest greyhounds known to mankind. I think they were so thrilled
with their success in chasing the mailman away every day that they
expanded it to barking every time someone comes to the door. Well,
they're kind of barky anyway; a call for everyone to go outside will
get them started. But there are worse things than dogs that bark when
someone comes to the door.

Mustang Sally


--Lia

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:23:16 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

But depending on where one lives, I don't think
it's particularly outrageous to leave windows open or partially open
when not home. I do it all the time.

I suppose not. I have had window locks that have allowed the windows to
be left partially open but locked. I've also left inaccessible (yes,
someone could bring a very tall ladder) upstairs windows open. We tend
to go from cold to hot so damn quickly around here, that we seem to have
few days where we're not using heat or ac!

We've got those window locks as well. Unfortunately, our weather also
goes from cold to hot with little in between, although this year we
had a few blissful weeks of open windows and window fans.

Of course, I've also cursed that I don't leave windows unlocked when
I've had to break into my own house. I did remedy that need.

Heh. We have a sort of room that was once an added-on screened porch.
We closed it up, insulated it and made it into a kennel room, and now
it's used for storing bird seed, some gardening supplies and as DH's
ham shack. The door opens onto our fenced side yard and you can't
even tell there's door from the street or the front of the house.
We've left that door open from the days when we used it as a kennel
for several foster dogs, and now that we have Mr. Barksalot and his
brother, Mr. Barksmore, we still do. It's handy.

Mustang Sally

Janet Boss wrote:
The choices are crating, LOCKING the windows (who leaves their home open
when they aren't home? ACK!),

shrug I do. It's still considered "odd" to lock doors around here.

installing a barrier at the top of the
fence (coyote roller, angled topper, etc), and if push came to shove,
window bars.

Some babygates are plastic-coated metal and will fit into an open window.
They might be a low-cost alternative to window bars. A box fan in an open
window might also act as a deterrent (although Ranger's one window escape
included pulling the box fan out of the window before tearing through the
screen).

Add to the choices: build a completely enclosed kennel on a concrete slab.

I'd also be looking at the big picture. Is he intact and looking for
love? Is he exercised? Obedience trained? Structure to his life?
SA? As usual, more questions before answers.

--
Mary & the depleted Ames National Zoo
(Ranger, Duke, Rhia-cat)