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U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and
Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ For some reason, raw data is presented without tabulation or comparison, so I transfered the numbers to a table and then did sorts and averaging, leading to the following (reading from top to bottom, so in the first example Jack Russell is MOST and Greyhound is LEAST): The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund The least Havanese Whippet Greyhound The most human-aggressive breeds Dachshund Chihuahua Beagle (!) The least Brittany Spaniel Rhodesian Ridgeback Poodle ON AVERAGE (humans+animal/2) The most aggressive Dachshund Chihuaha Jack RUssell The least Brittany Spaniel Whippet Greyhound COMMENTS: The dogs some might expect to see high on the lists (Akita, Rotty, Dobe, German Shepherd) were about in the middle. The dogs that seem to belong near the bottom in aggression (Cocker, Springer, Mastiff, Golden) were also in the middle. I was surprised by U Penn's data, but the numbers are big enough to be statistically valid, so... My German Pinscher didn't appear on the chart. Evidently no human victim survived to report her behavior, and of other dogs there was no trace remaining. Ike |
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Ike spoke these words of wisdom in news:g40v34$7c2
: U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ For some reason, raw data is presented without tabulation or comparison, so I transfered the numbers to a table and then did sorts and averaging, leading to the following (reading from top to bottom, so in the first example Jack Russell is MOST and Greyhound is LEAST): The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund The least Havanese Whippet Greyhound The most human-aggressive breeds Dachshund Chihuahua Beagle (!) The least Brittany Spaniel Rhodesian Ridgeback Poodle ON AVERAGE (humans+animal/2) The most aggressive Dachshund Chihuaha Jack RUssell The least Brittany Spaniel Whippet Greyhound COMMENTS: The dogs some might expect to see high on the lists (Akita, Rotty, Dobe, German Shepherd) were about in the middle. The dogs that seem to belong near the bottom in aggression (Cocker, Springer, Mastiff, Golden) were also in the middle. I was surprised by U Penn's data, but the numbers are big enough to be statistically valid, so... My German Pinscher didn't appear on the chart. Evidently no human victim survived to report her behavior, and of other dogs there was no trace remaining. Ike They sure took a small sampling of breeds. it's so small, in fact, that it's pretty much meaningless |
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Ike spoke these words of wisdom in news:g40v34$7c2$1
@registered.motzarella.org: COMMENTS: The dogs some might expect to see high on the lists (Akita, Rotty, Dobe, German Shepherd) were about in the middle. The dogs that seem to belong near the bottom in aggression (Cocker, Springer, Mastiff, Golden) were also in the middle. I was surprised by U Penn's data, but the numbers are big enough to be statistically valid, so... i would have expected the Cocker, Springer to be higher on the list. Also the golden, based on shere numbers of the breed. |
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Ike wrote: ON AVERAGE (humans+animal/2) ??? That's potentially rather like averaging US lake depths and calories in an apple, unless you're extremely clear about what it is that the number is describing. Like rather than describing it as an "average," describe it as an "unsuitability for the novice owner index" or something like that. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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"Ike" wrote in message ... U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ For some reason, raw data is presented without tabulation or comparison, so I transfered the numbers to a table and then did sorts and averaging, leading to the following (reading from top to bottom, so in the first example Jack Russell is MOST and Greyhound is LEAST): The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund The least Havanese Whippet Greyhound The most human-aggressive breeds Dachshund Chihuahua Beagle (!) The least Brittany Spaniel Rhodesian Ridgeback Poodle ON AVERAGE (humans+animal/2) The most aggressive Dachshund Chihuaha Jack RUssell The least Brittany Spaniel Whippet Greyhound COMMENTS: The dogs some might expect to see high on the lists (Akita, Rotty, Dobe, German Shepherd) were about in the middle. The dogs that seem to belong near the bottom in aggression (Cocker, Springer, Mastiff, Golden) were also in the middle. I was surprised by U Penn's data, but the numbers are big enough to be statistically valid, so... My German Pinscher didn't appear on the chart. Evidently no human victim survived to report her behavior, and of other dogs there was no trace remaining. Ike ============ I didn't know that Beagles and JR's were aggressive. I don't know much about JR's but I have never met an aggressive Beagle. I would have expected Cockers to be higher on the list also. My brother's tiny mini Dachshund tried to bite my dog on the nose a couple of times. I don't see them very often. TG my dog is gentle and well mannered, because it wouldn't take much to really hurt the little dog. I try to keep my dog away from him and any other nervous barking dogs. But, that little thing just charged right up to her barking, leaped up at her and tried to bite her nose. Actually, I think he succeeded.. No one could believe their eyes. Everyone thought that was the end of the little guy, but then no one could believe how well my dog handled it. My dog never even flinched or growled. The little Dachshund only weighs 6 pounds and my Rotty weighs 87 lbs; who would think. |
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"Ike" wrote in message ... U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund I don't know about this data but I do know that I've never, ever met a dachshund who didn't bite me. Not one. Ever. I hate those damn dogs! I don't even like looking at pictures of them. It's become almost a phobia. Nasty, nasty creatures. IMO only, of course. I'm sure there are perfectly nice little wiener dogs out there somewhere. I've just never met one. -- Phyrie Kiba the Cav's Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/ |
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"Phyrie" wrote in message news:xDS9k.846$1o6.581@edtnps83... "Ike" wrote in message ... U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund I don't know about this data but I do know that I've never, ever met a dachshund who didn't bite me. Not one. Ever. I hate those damn dogs! I don't even like looking at pictures of them. It's become almost a phobia. Nasty, nasty creatures. IMO only, of course. I'm sure there are perfectly nice little wiener dogs out there somewhere. I've just never met one. I've known a couple of Dachshunds, and I don't recall any aggression problems. The one I remember best, Grindel, was owned by a guy in the Sierra Club, and he would take her on hikes, sometimes with her riding in his backpack. She once took a chunk out of somebody's sandwich when he wasn't paying attention! But it does seem like smaller dogs are more likely to nip and otherwise act fearfully or aggressively. I can remember a rather nasty Chihuahua when I was a kid, and a neighbor's small chow-chow type dog snapping at me only a few years ago (before I got Muttley). Also my friend dog-sat for a JRT who seemed snarky. The big dogs I have met, including Dobermans, Rotties, Anatolians, and a wolf hybrid, have seemed more confident and more stable, and not as yappy and snappy. Paul and Big Gentle Muttley |
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"Paul E. Schoen" spoke these words of wisdom in
: "Phyrie" wrote in message news:xDS9k.846$1o6.581@edtnps83... "Ike" wrote in message ... U Penn's Center for the Interaction of Animals and Society released data published 6/25/08 by Discovery News at http://blogs.discovery.com/news_animal/ The most dog-aggressive breeds Jack Russell Pit Bull Dachshund I don't know about this data but I do know that I've never, ever met a dachshund who didn't bite me. Not one. Ever. I hate those damn dogs! I don't even like looking at pictures of them. It's become almost a phobia. Nasty, nasty creatures. IMO only, of course. I'm sure there are perfectly nice little wiener dogs out there somewhere. I've just never met one. I've known a couple of Dachshunds, and I don't recall any aggression problems. The one I remember best, Grindel, was owned by a guy in the Sierra Club, and he would take her on hikes, sometimes with her riding in his backpack. She once took a chunk out of somebody's sandwich when he wasn't paying attention! But it does seem like smaller dogs are more likely to nip and otherwise act fearfully or aggressively. I can remember a rather nasty Chihuahua when I was a kid, and a neighbor's small chow-chow type dog snapping at me only a few years ago (before I got Muttley). Also my friend dog-sat for a JRT who seemed snarky. The big dogs I have met, including Dobermans, Rotties, Anatolians, and a wolf hybrid, have seemed more confident and more stable, and not as yappy and snappy. Paul and Big Gentle Muttley I agree about chihuahua's I've met more nasty than nice ones. But I don't fear for my life from chihuahua attacks. If worst came to worst, and i really feared for my life from them, I'd just step on em. problem solved. |
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"Phyrie" wrote: I don't know about this data but I do know that I've never, ever met a dachshund who didn't bite me. A friend of mine is currently playing host to an old army buddy, the buddy's wife and kids, AND their three dachshunds. (The buddy has just left the Army & relocated to the area, and they're staying with my friend while house-hunting.) My friend reports that one of the dachsies is refusing to eliminate out of doors - I'm not clear on whether this is a new or old issue - and that another bites him every time he attempts to play with his own two dogs; hasn't broken skin, apparently, but has left bruises. OTOH, I've known several quite nice dachsies at our local de facto dog park - the one we currently see most often is very sweet, athough he doesn't listen to his owner at all, and is a mild pest to female dogs he finds attractive (he's intact). |
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diddy wrote:
I agree about chihuahua's I've met more nasty than nice ones. But I don't fear for my life from chihuahua attacks. If worst came to worst, and i really feared for my life from them, I'd just step on em. problem solved. Some how I don't see you doing that, diddy. My impression w/r/t Chihuahuas is that the problems lie more with the owners than the dogs, when the owners don't train the dogs or set boundaries for acceptable and unacceptable behavior, and tolerate snapping and snarkiness because they are "just so little." And just like any other breed, there is a range of dispositions. IME with up close and personal knowledge of 9 Chis, 5 were pretty stable and never snapped or snarked at anyone, as far as I knew, 3 showed the potential in adolescence but it was controlled by training, and one was a snappy, snarky little thing whose owner was clueless about how to control her. I don't have much experience with Dachshunds, but I'd bet the same kind of thing happens with them. FurPaw -- The plural of anecdote is not proof. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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