Terri wrote in
:

Or Gustifer

You spelled Gustopher wrong. PLONK!111!!eleventy-one!!!

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On 2008-06-29 22:23:04 -0400, Shelly said:

Terri wrote in
:

Or Gustifer

You spelled Gustopher wrong. PLONK!111!!eleventy-one!!!

She's thinking of "Cleveland's original folk singer," Gusti. Wrong gender...

"One of JH AKA TPW's Many Stoopid Aliases" scrawled in message
...
HOWE abHOWET namin IT "LUCKY"? Oooops...

Or Photon? Ooops...

Yes, a bundle of energy that moves at maximum speed. An excellent name. I
have friends with a Golden named Photon.

Or maybe Meshon? Ooops...

That was actually Meson, which is an elementary particle. Not that Jerry
would understand.


Perhaps she shouldn't name it NUTHIN?


Again, JH the PW tries to be hurtful in a vain and hypocritical attempt to
reach out to those he wants to convert to his "gentle" methods of
"unconditional praise". Not that anyone except the morbidly curious or a
few newbies ever reads his posts.

I think JH is getting old and tired. He rarely posts his marathon 100k to
200k rantings. But who knows what he says? I just MAR, while most just use
filters. He's pissin' in the bitbucket!

Paul and Muttley

wrote in message
...
(snip)

What name does this face say to you?


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...c&id=559718771

Axel

HOWEDY paul e. schoen you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active acute
chronic life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE,

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in message
...

"One of JH AKA TPW's Many Stoopid Aliases" scrawled in message
...
HOWE abHOWET namin IT "LUCKY"? Oooops...

Pssst? Perhaps YOU FORGOT you GOT RID of "Lucky"
to a "KILL SHELTER" where she was "PLACED within
WON WEEK" on accHOWENTA YOU COULDN'T
TRAIN YOUR DEAD DOG "LUCKY" to get along with
your OPPOSITE SEX dog Muttley nodoGdameneD better
than you could TRAIN your "RESCUE" dog Muttley not
to attack your DEAD KAT Photon nodoGdameneD better
than you could train your DEAD KAT Photon not to attack
your DEAD KAT Meson??

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Perhaps if you'd donated some of that $10,000.00 you pissed
away tryin to BUY a female who'd have anything to do with
the likes of you, you could maybe have TRAINED your own
dog not to ATTACK your DEAD KAT?:

From the news article "In Pursuit Of Love":

"In the pursuit of love, no one has been more devoted
than Paul Schoen.

He's attended singles hayrides, singles hikes, and singles
house parties. He's answered personal ads for athletic women
(his preference) only to discover they considered shopping
their most aerobic activity. He's hired a matchmaking company,
revealing to strangers his marital ideal: a woman (ages 21-42)
who loves nature, simple pleasures and friendship. And he said
it again, while the camera rolled, after joining a video dating
service several years ago.

The grand total so far:

- Lasting romantic relationships: 0

- Cost: $10,000

"Maybe it's worth it to other people," says Mr. Schoen, 44,
a businessman who lives in Towson, "But at this point, it
hasn't been for me. It's expensive, and I'm still single"

--------------------

Or Photon? Ooops...

Your DEAD KAT Photon GOT DEAD on accHOWENTA
your "RESCUE DOG" Muttley CHASED HIM OFF JUST
LIKE HOWE Photon CHASED OFF your other DEAD
KAT Meson {}: ~ (

Yes, a bundle of energy that moves at maximum speed.

Seems you'd have a PROBLEM keepin up. You can't
even walk at a normal pace bein a congenital cripple.

An excellent name.

INDEED? HOWE FAST is Photon NHOWE, paulie?

IS THIS paulie's DEAD KAT Photon?:

http://tinyurl.com/2qr9ry

Did paulie's DEAD KAT run HOWET on
paulie an his RESCUE dog Muttley??

Hey! I think I FHOWEND him on the side of the
road JUST LIKE in the picture, but withHOWET
the sign.

Is he black an red?

If you don't want him back maybe I can keep him?

I think he's still good. He's up the road a piece from
here an there's a little on the other side of the road
there an some in the middle not far from me here.

You want him back to make sure he gets a good HOWES?

He still looks pretty good. A tad lonely maybe. Just like
in the pic, EXXXCEPT MOORE of him in MOORE pics.

Same profile, HOWEver.

BWEEEAAAAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!

I have friends with a Golden named Photon.

"FRIENDS", paulie? You got no friends. You single handedly
destroyed the Baltimore Singles Network while spending ten
THOWESAND dollars on finding a woman who'd put up with
you:

Baltimore Singles Network
Home Page
Updated February 14, 2004

NOTICE:
Baltimore Singles Network has been discontinued!

Due to lack of interest and member support, I have
discontinued the Baltimore Singles Network. We have
been inactive for about a year, and I have not received
any offers to help with planning, organization, publicity,
or event sponsorship.

It takes a group of dedicated people to make an organization
successful. We had quite a few good years starting in 1991,
when I took over leadership, when others were involved actively
in the club. However, for the past several years, it has been a
frustrating and disappointing one-person project.

-----------------

Or maybe Meshon? Ooops...

That was actually Meson, which is an elementary particle. Not that Jerry
would understand.

Well paulie, you oughta know. You PROVED A.S. Neil,
Pavlov, Sam Corson, Mary Cover Jones, Szrynski, Whaler,
Lorenz, Azrin, and with some exceptions, Skinner and Baily
DEAD WRONG, recognizing that EVERY DOG IS an
INDIVIDUAL and NEED DIFFERENT METHODS OF
PUNISHMENT to TRAIN them:

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.

"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.

A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

The Embry Study:
"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about dashing into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:

"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Report
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic
therapists."

Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of
programmed systems for learning; 2) reinforcement;
3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST
SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers."

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).

Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION of the
need for child THERAPY through changing the
clinical emphasis from clinical to parental
HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment:
Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the support
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.

----------------------------

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."

"Motivation Of The Resistance To Coercion "-- PAVLOV:

"Reflexes of purpose and freedom" in the comparative
physiology of higher nervous activity, Institute of
Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology, Academy
of Sciences, Moscow:

The most complex unconditioned "reflexes of aim and
freedom," discovered by I.P. Pavlov, are compared
with the "competence drive" and the "motivation of the
resistance to coercion," respectively, described by
contemporary ethologists.

On the basis of the unconditioned "reflex of purpose,"
conditioned reflexes were developed in which positive
emotions arising in connection with the perfection of
a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at
a given moment, serve as the reinforcement.

The unconditioned "reflex of freedom" is regarded as a
phylogenetic precursor of the will, and its acute extinction
as the physiological mechanism of hypnosis. It was
demonstrated experimentally that the appearance of the
state of "animal hypnosis" (immobilization catatonia) in
rabbits is accompanied by the predominance of electrical
activity and heat production in the right hemisphere, i.e.,
by symptoms which are found in hypnosis in man.

Simonov PV/h4
Publication Types:ulliReview/liliReview,
tutorial/li/ulPMID: 2215892, UI: 91015681/blockquote
doctype

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-po...uid=2215892&am
p;form=6&db=m&Dopt=bNeurosciBehavPhysiol19 90May-Jun;
20(3):230-5

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov

In the followin SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH STUDY you may
substitute pronged spiked pinch or slip choke collars for shock
and add PUNISHMENT, SCOLDING, CRATING, and offering
and witholding rewards, attention, and affection:

Psychological Effects

At issue is the question, --Do electronic training
devices elicit psychological responses?

"This section cites several research studies in which the
psychological impact of the use of electronic training devices
was analyzed. It is difficult, at best, for anyone to determine
the full psychological effect of these devices or training methods
until we can agree on exactly what constitutes a stress signal in
a domestic dog. Not only do none of the researchers agree on
what it is, but it varies from dog to dog.

It is even more difficult for humans to determine the full effect
of shock on a dog (or any animal) due to the animal's hard-wired
need to hide pain in order to survive in the wild.

Training dogs with the help of the shock collar: Short and long
term behavioral effects. (Schilder, M. & van der Borga, J. (2004).
Applied Animal Behavior Science, 85, 319-334).

The goal of this study was to determine the behavioral changes in
dogs during training using electronic training collars. Thirty-two
dogs were divided into two groups, each receiving both general
obedience and protection training.

One group was trained with shock collars and the other group
without shock collars. The dogs trained with the shock collars
displayed signs of stress: lowering of body posture, high-pitched
yelps, barks and squeals, avoidance, redirected aggression, and
tongue flicking.

It was also noted by the authors that, even during play and relaxed
walking, the group of dogs trained with shock collars continued to
show signs of stress while in the company of their handler.

The authors concluded that shock-collar training is stressful;
receiving shocks is a painful experience to dogs; and the shock
group of dogs evidently learned that the presence of their owner
(or his commands) announced the reception of shocks, even
outside of the normal training context.

They suggest that the welfare of these shocked dogs is at
stake, at least in the presence of their owners.

This study has come under considerable fire because the experience
of the handlers and dogs is not clear, and the level of shock is not
stated. With that said, it does suggest that dogs are stressed by the
experience of being shocked during training.

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Author and professional dog trainer LeeCharlesKelley wrote:

Thanks, Jerry, that's a helpful bit from the guy
who started it all. This shows what we've been
saying: that teaching the dog to play fetch,
regardless of its usefulness in the eventual
search part of the training program, is a
powerful motivator and reinforcer.

Of course these idiots (pardon my being blunt)
don't see using food and clickers as being a
form of coercion. Maybe they've been hypnotized
by Karen Pryor, et al:

Freeze Frame {}: ~ )

From: canis55
Date: 1999/09/28
Subject: Dear Marilyn Re. Ness

Dear Marilyn,

I just visited your updated site. The two Ness pages are great.
Freezing the video frames to reveal the emotional impact a
leash correction has on a dog was a wonderful idea.

Lee Kelley did something similar to a Brian Kilcommon video.

The difference is we were focusing on the emotional impact a
leash correction has on the trainer. When you do this to a training
video you can clearly see the tremendous emotional charge some
of these trainers are getting from hurting dogs.

It's a strange business, this dog training. I wonder what motivates
any of us to engage in it. I'm suspicious of anyone who says they
do it because they love dogs. I know a lot of people who claim to
love what dogs represent to them, and yet they don't become trainers.

I don't think this is because they love something else more.

I think there is a difference between loving what dogs represent
to us and loving what training them creates in us or even creates
in them for that matter.

It's a complicated process and perhaps many of us have lost sight
of what we're doing. I read books and articles that matter of factly
explain how to systematically inflict pain on dogs in an effort to
create a desire to perform tasks that I often see dogs performing of
their own accord. I know many of these behaviors can be shaped
and encouraged to the same degree of reliability without all the
violence and pain.

Where they can't (if that's the case), I wonder why we think
a dog should perform a task that is so repugnant to its nature,
that we must resort to violence and coercion to compel them
to participate.

Maybe I have far too much respect for dogs, but when I read
this stuff it sounds like slavery and involuntary servitude to me.

I can't see much difference between what we're doing to them
(for their own good) and what my country men did to the African
peoples for nearly half a century.

It's hard for me to accept that I'm surrounded by so much
madness, but I have to go with my heart on this one. Most
of what we demand from dogs--if not all of it--will be offered
willingly and enthusiastically if we only learn how to request
it in a manner they can comprehend.

If it turns out that I have to attack a dog to get it to do or to not do
something, then maybe the dog isn't supposed to do what I think it
should.

The whole thing's so complicated that I can't really express it. I
just know I don't like some of the stuff I'm seeing or reading about.
--
I trains'em as I sees'em.

----------------

Why Do You Reward The Dog For Being Bad?
Was:
Punish Dogs Children SP-HOWESESWith PRAISE,
Unconditional LOVE, TRUST, And RESPECT
{) ; - )

Always praise the dog to show him that you affectionally
support or love him. Praising the dog has nothing to do
with what he has just done, it has to do with your
relationship with him.

"Good dog" means "I love you, dog".

If the dog is anxious, then you make certain that he
knows that he is in a safe and trusting environment.
You praise and admire him.

Correction is the opposite signal, you are my enemy,
and this results, quite naturally, in the dog behaving
aggresively - why not, you've declared that you are his
enemy.

Why does paradoxical reward work?

The dog defecates on the floor. You come up and say
"Good Dog" you love and praise him.

THE DOG KNOWS YOU LOVE HIM.

The dog defecates on the floor because he is anxious.
No wild wolf, jackal, or coyote defecates in his den.
If he defecates in his den its because a bear is outside
trying to get in and eat him.

The dog knows that it is stupid to
defecate where he eats or sleeps.

Don't you?

If the dog feels safe he'll behave as if he
is safe, no pooping on the living room floor.

Almost all maladaptive behavior is due to fear, anxiety,
expectation of disaster. Correct the situation, and the
dog behaves fluently like a ..... Dog!

Punishment deranges behavior, it is never never never appropriate.

Love the dog.

Praise is never punishment, praise is like giving a
piece of steak. If you give a piece of steak to a dog
after he defecates on the floor he'll stop defecating
on the floor.

Fondly, Dr. Von

----------------

Perhaps she shouldn't name it NUTHIN?

Seems you ain't had such good LUCK with the
DEAD critters you've named, eh, paulie??

Again, JH the PW tries to be hurtful in a vain and hypocritical attempt

NOT TRUE, paulie. I don't TRY to be HURTFUL to you
PATHETIC MISERABLE STINKIN ROTTEN LYIN
ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL CASES, I HURT
you COWARDS BIG TIME, EVERY TIME {}: ~ (

to reach out to those he wants to convert to his
"gentle" methods of "unconditional praise".

WRONG AGAIN, paulie. I AIN'T INTERESTED in teachin
LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL CASES HOWE to
BE NICE to their DEAD critters. My INTENT is to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you dog abusin cowards as the
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin MENTAL CASE that you are.

LIKE THIS:

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote

snip

If I did not have to worry about my cat, I would
probably keep him, and I am certain I could avoid
any more dangerous episodes. I probably would
not have taken him to obedience classes at this time
if that was not such a difficult issue, and if people
here had not essentially shamed me into doing so.

Then he would only be a bratty dog with a mind of
his own, but he would not have been identified as
dangerous.

--------------------------

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Here's HOWE COME Muttley WENT INSANE and ATTACKED
an innocent defenseless PUPPY and your DEAD KAT Photon
RAN HOWET on you an GOT DEAD:

"Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
stern correction" --Janet Boss

Here's janet's CUSTOME MADE pronged spiked pinch choke collar:
http://tinyurl.com/5m6ppt

"J1Boss" wrote in message
...

He was next to me and I could see his neck
muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
Janet Boss

"sionnach" wrote in message
...

"J1Boss" wrote in message
...
I can't imagine needing anything higher
than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL
cause the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's
been sprayed in the face and the dog won't
know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

janet CONtinues:
My dogs are not human children wearing fur- they are DOGS.
I don't have anything against electronic bark collars, but they
should be used in conjunction with actually working at training
your dog(s).

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL LYING
DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER.

-------------------

LIKE THIS:

Here's janet's REAL LIFE IN PERSON "student" paul:

#2 - 6/05/07
When I was training him under Janet's supervision
I was instructed to give it a ? firm yank as a correction.

I advised you to use a prong collar, not give firm
yanks on a chain choke collar. I hate the things.

She was able to get his attention with
just a quick tug, but I had to yank on it
hard enough to lift him off his feet to get
him to respond. Looking back now, I think
it was based on his fear, which he had for
her (as an unknown), but not for me
(whom he had learned to trust).

He wasn't afraid of me. He knew I was a
confident trainer. Fear has no place in dog
training, as I told you THEN.
Janet

It seems to me that applying stern corrections, by
popping a choker chain, prong collar, or whatever,
is a way to ensure compliance by instilling a fear
of further punishment.

Sure, if it is administered very consistently
by a confident trainer, the dog soon learns
to obey. There was no positive reinforcement,
so what remains is negative.

Also, I recall the time you were going to show me
how I could get Muttley to take his rawhide treat
from me without lunging for it. When you offered
it to him, he refused to take it. This IMHO is likely
a fear behavior.

Things have changed a lot since then, and I have
learned a lot, and Muttley has settled down quite
a bit. I probably still give him too much freedom
to think on his own, but that's just my way of
doing things, and that's probably not going to
change much. He may never win an obedience
medal, but I don't think he is dangerously out
of control, either.

Paul and Muttley

"I thought I was told that the way to get the dog to go
down was to make him sit and then step onthe leash.
That was awkward and didn't seem to work.

I will confess that I only tried the "down" position
once or twice at home, and I also often used it
instead of "Off" when I wanted him to stop
jumping on me or elsewhere I didn't want him to be.

I had to give him corrections every few seconds,
and also just about kick him, to keep him at my
left side.

Muttley is really a very sweet and loving dog, but
he needs more socialization with other dogs. However,
it is very likely that I will have him put down in a week."

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote

It is a shame that Muttley will probably be put
down (his appointment is next Wednesday),

-----------------------

HERE'S HOWE COME:

Subject: redirected aggression
Date: 4/11/07

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
...

It seems I have been dealing with this a bit lately.
Dog to dog and dog to person,, with dogs who are
obviously overstimulated by what's in front of them.

What's in front of them varies from people at the door
to dogs in their path or directly in their face. The dogs
in question all have very poor self control.

I have dog(s) with not-so-great-natural self control,
so it's something we constantly work on. We don't
have redirected stuff going on, because we have enough
obedience to avoid it.

While I know that's the big answer for the dogs in
question as well, I'm curious what things people have
found useful to redirect/focus/gain attention from
drivey dogs or just very distracted of over-the-top dogs.

We're having success with my recommendations, but I'm
always open to something novel that may be the hot ticket.
--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

Not that anyone except the morbidly curious or
a few newbies ever reads his posts.

Oh, you mean, posts LIKE THIS?:

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote

Hello everyone:

If you have followed some of my posts, you know
something about the ongoing story of Muttley, the
large GSD/Chow dog I have been trying to adopt
or place in a better home.

I will add a bit more history later in this post.

Last Tuesday, toward the end of Janet's obedience
class, Muttley and I had just finished fairly successfully
performing a sit/stay/come routine, and then he was
sitting by my side.

The final routine was to be a "down", which Muttley
has had some difficulty with, and frankly I have not
had the time to work with him much on that.

I was kneeling at his side, trying to hold his collar
while pushing his front legs down to the position,
while he resisted. Suddenly he lunged, knocking
me over onto the parking lot, and I lost grip of the
leash as I reflexively broke my fall.

Muttley took the opportunity to attack a young black
male Lab to my left, and it was a very brutal attack.
Janet and the instructors tried to gain control, and as
soon as I could get to my feet I grabbed the leash and
pulled him off.

That was the end of the class, and the other dog,
Bernie, was taken to an animal hospital for treatment.

When everyone had left, Janet counseled me about
what should be done about Muttley.

She said this was more than ordinary aggression,
and only intensive (and expensive) one on one
training would have any chance at working, and
in any case, he was not suited to group training.

She advised me that Muttley could be dangerous,
and she recommended that he be euthanized.

"They can't all be saved".

snip

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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

I think JH is getting old

Every day, paulie, another day older.

and tired.

I'm gettin tired of you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin MENTAL CASES postin your ABUSE an
self serving LIES IDIOCY and INSANITY here on my forums.

He rarely posts his marathon 100k to 200k rantings.

Perhaps this post will measure up, eh, paulie?

But who knows what he says?

Certainly you wouldn't. You couldn't even read my FREE
manual past the part where you actually LEARN HOWE
to TRAIN your "RESCUE" dog Muttley not to ATTACK
innocent defenseless dumb critters simply by PRAISING
them on accHOWENTA you COULDN'T STOP JERKIN
and CHOKIN him {}: ~ )

I just MAR,

Of curse you do~!

while most just use filters.

That so? Then who's doin all the COMPLAININ??

He's pissin' in the bitbucket!

No paulie, I'm pissin up your filthy arses {}: ~ )

That's CLEAN ENGINEERING at its BEAST.

Paul and Muttley

Charley Sante,
Charley @Klyster.Com
"Sante Means Health"

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

On Jun 30, 2:20*am, "filly" wrote:
wrote in message

...
(snip)

What name does this face say to you?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...c&id=559718771

Axel

What a cheeky little panda puppy! I like Frankie for a name. Cute
little wagger.

In article
,
wrote:


What name does this face say to you?

Hmmm - what is synonymous with "I have really gullible owners"?

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Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

wrote:
Ok...we are stuck. I think we have looked through at least 100 dog
name lists, baby name lists, but we can not find a name that suits his
face.

We have one dog named Sophie already - so my husband wants a name that
does not end with a "y" sound.

Any suggestions

What name does this face say to you?


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...c&id=559718771


Cupcake.

--Lia

wrote:

What name does this face say to you?


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...c&id=559718771

(a very young) Tom Hanks.

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dog.

In article 2008062920585327544-montana@wildhackcominvalid,
montana wildhack wrote:

Shelly spoke these words of wisdom in
1:

I'm also recently enamored of Lewis. The Cocker x
Poodle I had when I was a kid was named Miles, so I guess I've always
been a fan of un-cute, un-fluffy names.

I wanted to name a dog Kevin.

Well, I used to know some people with a dog named Montana. :-)
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Bright eyes/burning like fire, * * * * * | Kevin Michael Vail
Bright eyes/how can you close and fail?* |
How can the light that shone so brightly | . . . . . . . . . .
Suddenly shine so pale?/Bright eyes* * * |* . . . . . . . . .