kat wrote:

young dogs and older dogs immune systems are more 'fragile' therefore they
should be vaccinated yearly whereas middle aged dogs could probably get by
with every 3 years but didn't recommend it.

Huh. I've stopped giving anything but rabies vax to my dog (she's
9). The cat is ancient, so she doesn't even get rabies vax. I
think that at a certain point, their immune system does become a
little less robust, which is why I've chosen not to tax it by
vaccinating.

--
Shelly
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Shelly wrote:

kat wrote:

young dogs and older dogs immune systems are more 'fragile' therefore they
should be vaccinated yearly whereas middle aged dogs could probably get by
with every 3 years but didn't recommend it.

Huh. I've stopped giving anything but rabies vax to my dog (she's
9). The cat is ancient, so she doesn't even get rabies vax. I
think that at a certain point, their immune system does become a
little less robust, which is why I've chosen not to tax it by
vaccinating.

Yep. Lucy will not ever get anything but Rabies from last year on.
She's 11.5. Rudy is every 3 years for all (staggered) ------****** He's
3 years old TODAY ******** and Marcie will get boosters at the 1 year
mark, then every 3 years. Skipjack gets rabies only. He's an indoor
cat and almost 7. He got kitten shots and year booster and then done.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

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"kat" wrote:


What are the potential problems of giving it in the same visit. Now I'm
worried.

General overload of vaccinations, but primarily because Lepto vaccine
causes reactions in some dogs and keeping it separate means that can be
noticed, treated, and planned for in the future.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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"kat" wrote:


Maybe it's a difference in vets? Last year (at my old vet) she gave
both
dogs that. This year the vet gave a Lepto 4L and a Distemper w/o Corona
(whatever that is?).

Giving the Lepto on it's own (I won't do it on the same visit) is what
most vets are doing now (if Lepto is given at all).

What are the potential problems of giving it in the same visit. Now I'm
worried.

Kathy

"Shelly" wrote in message
...
kat wrote:

young dogs and older dogs immune systems are more 'fragile' therefore
they
should be vaccinated yearly whereas middle aged dogs could probably get
by
with every 3 years but didn't recommend it.

Huh. I've stopped giving anything but rabies vax to my dog (she's
9). The cat is ancient, so she doesn't even get rabies vax. I
think that at a certain point, their immune system does become a
little less robust, which is why I've chosen not to tax it by
vaccinating.

That was my thought also so it was a little disheartening to hear both vets
give me the exact opposite advice. There are one or two different vets in
our area that I'm still planning on seeing and I'll be asking them the same
thing. In the meantime do you (or anybody) know of any *reputable* sites
that discuss this in depth?

Kathy

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"kat" wrote:

Also I usually get
a Lyme shot for Shadow. Is this wise/necessary? He did have a tick
recently that was pretty engorged when my daughter found it.

I don't do Lyme and my dogs go field training regularly.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Shelly wrote:

kat wrote:

young dogs and older dogs immune systems are more 'fragile' therefore
they
should be vaccinated yearly whereas middle aged dogs could probably
get by
with every 3 years but didn't recommend it.

Huh. I've stopped giving anything but rabies vax to my dog (she's
9). The cat is ancient, so she doesn't even get rabies vax. I
think that at a certain point, their immune system does become a
little less robust, which is why I've chosen not to tax it by
vaccinating.

Yep. Lucy will not ever get anything but Rabies from last year on.
She's 11.5. Rudy is every 3 years for all (staggered) ------****** He's
3 years old TODAY ******** and Marcie will get boosters at the 1 year
mark, then every 3 years. Skipjack gets rabies only. He's an indoor
cat and almost 7. He got kitten shots and year booster and then done.

One of my indoor cats is 11 and hasn't been to the vet in years. This year
I'm going to take her and start having annual bloodwork/urine samples done.
I'm wondering if I should even vaccinate her for rabies. Also I usually get
a Lyme shot for Shadow. Is this wise/necessary? He did have a tick
recently that was pretty engorged when my daughter found it.

Kathy

I agree with Janet here that much weight loss attributed to just arthritis
isn't right. There is something else going on here other than arthritis. I
would have a full lab work up done before I chalked this up to arthrtis.

My dog Barney who passed away had severe arthritis from the age of 7 on and
never had issues with weight loss due to it. If anything we had more
problems keeping him thinned down. Even now my beagle/retriever mix takes
Rimadyl on a daily basis due to arthritis and we have to keep his weight
under control. He's balloon up and eat everything in site if we didn't
limit him.

Celeste

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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"Jan, Kozzie Girl and Sylvie" wrote:


And Koz has started throwing up this evening, I think it may be that
she had her Dhlpp shot.

They gave an "L" in the combo? didn't think anyone was doing that
anymore. How old is Koz?

What kind of dog is Dusty? Sorry - I don't remember. That's a big
weight loss, but blaming arthritis? I'm a little confused.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:06:14 -0400, "kat"
wrote:

In the meantime do you (or anybody) know of any *reputable* sites
that discuss this in depth?

Define reputable.

Your two vets are reputable (presumably, just having a DVM after your
name means that you're reasonably reputable, with the possible
exception of vets who give dogs vaccinations without their owner's
knowledge, or against their wishes), yet they have different
*opinions*.

I previously gave you several sites that discussed just this topic,
including those of Texas A & M, Colorado State, and Cornell
universities, several DVMs, including Dr. Jean Dodds, et al.

They are all, in my *opinion*, very reputable institutions and
individuals.

You can also see for yourself that, for all intents and purposes, the
regulars here support a minimalist approach to vaccinations.

I don't know what defines reputable to you, though, and therein lies
the rub.

Until you can define it yourself, no one here can really help you.

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On Jul 10, 12:00*am, FurPaw wrote:
Jan, Kozzie Girl and Sylvie wrote:

Dusty, aka Dust Bunny our shepherd has lost so much weight. In the
past 2 years she has gone from 120 lbs to 84 lbs today's weight. They
say her back end/back legs are full of arthritis and she is losing
muscle which is the cause of her weight loss. They said she will keep
losing weight as the arthritis gets worse. Dust is only 7 now and a
very big girl. She has some trouble getting up once in awhile but gets
the zoommies with the girls and will play with them outside, running
and bumping into each other. Dusty has always moved at her own pace,
which is usually slow unless she is playing. Keep you fingers and paws
crossed she keeps going strong for many more years.

Sorry to hear about Dusty! *Did your vet suggest anything to give
her relief from her arthritis?

We've used Adequan on two severely arthritic dogs, a GSD and a
Chihuahua, with good success - their mobility improved greatly
after we started them on it. *It's a prescription drug that is
given by injection, one shot about every 4-6 weeks. *Your vet can
do it, or your vet can teach you to do it (saves money). *As far
as I know, it has minimal side effects. *As my arthritis
develops, I'm hoping that it's approved for human use soon!!!

And Koz has started throwing up this evening, I think it may be that
she had her Dhlpp shot.

I hope she's feeling better by tomorrow.

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dog.

At this point the vet has suggested giving her Glucosamine, so we will
go with that and see how she does.

Jan
http://www.thefineartcafe.com