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"Suja" wrote:


I don't know how some of y'all get through life without such basic
information.

Especially since I lived so close to the "hood" for all those years.
instead of in a house shell in the middle of nowhere. I guess all of
the crowds and noise just closed off the reality to me!

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Janet Boss" wrote in message:

Damn!

I don't know how some of y'all get through life without such basic
information.

Suja

On Jul 22, 2:01*pm, "sighthounds & siberians"
wrote:
On Jul 22, 12:29*pm, "



wrote:
On Jul 22, 11:11*am, sighthounds & siberians wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:36:57 -0700 (PDT),
"

wrote:
On Jul 22, 1:48*am, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
I don't have a lot of experience with dogs,

Then why try and give advice regarding dogs.

Also, your dogs were not "rescue" dogs when you got them. *They were
strays. *Lucky became a rescue when you surrendered your right to her
with a rescue group. *Nothing you do with dogs is rescue, which is an
important distinction for people who actually work in rescue. *My
second dog that I just lost recently was a stray, I then fostered her
for a very short time through an actual rescue group that I have
worked with in the past. *When she and Yoda were getting along
perfectly I decided to adopt her myself. *At that point she was an
adopted rescue dog who was found as a stray. *Semantics matter, good
rescue groups have enough trouble overcoming stereotypes and wrongly
propagated beliefs resulting from some bad apples out their without
you contributing to the mess.

Amen to all of the above.

Nick, I don't want to cause you pain if you'd rather not discuss it,
but do you and/or your vet have any idea what happened with Jezebel?

Mustang Sally

We aren't really certain, at the time our two vets, my wife and I
never would have thought she was going to die. *After looking back
though there is a neuro muscular disorder that would explain almost
everything that happened at the end as well as several of her "quirks"
that we didn't even realize were potentially from something underlying
as we didn't have her for very long. *What the disorder didn't explain
could easily have been caused as a result of the symptoms of the
disorder. *Nothing is conclusive though, and there is no way to know
for sure now. *It was just a shock though because over the course of 4
days she went from an apparently healthy young dog to being in severe
pain and ultimately stopping breathing.

I cannot imagine what a horrendous, nightmarish experience that must
have been. *I'm so sorry you all had to go through it.

Mustang Sally

Thank you so much. We're still getting over her not being here
anymore. It's amazing how attached we got to her in such a short
time.

Nick

"Suja" wrote in message
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"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in message:

So far, except for myself and Sparrow, only JH has attempted to supply
some actual advice and encouragement.


Riiiight. Then I must be seeing things, 'cause both Mary and Chris, both
of
whom know what they're doing, have offered good, solid advice.

Their posts had not appeared on my news reader at the time I composed the
post. So I commend them for doing what the rest of you have not. If you
can't say something nice, don't say anything.

Paul and Muttley

Paul E. Schoen wrote:

If you can't say something nice, don't say anything.

How about you try following your own advice? I mean, it's
not that we don't LIKE control freaks or anything, it's just
that your posts are doing a real number on my irony meter.

Dianne

On Jul 22, 4:23*pm, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
Their posts had not appeared on my news reader at the time I composed the
post. So I commend them for doing what the rest of you have not.

The rest of us haven't offered advice because we don't have relevant
experience. I've done rescue for years, and have quite a bit of
experience with shy dogs, but this doesn't appear to be a shy dog. I
have one dog that was very unsocialized and neglected, but she wasn't
isolated in a barn or other location and in fact lived with 20+ other
dogs, and she was (and still is though to a lesser extent) extremely
fearful. So I don't have any advice for the poster, and after reading
Mary's post, I felt she pretty much summed it up. You should really
try not giving advice when you don't have personal experience to back
it up - it works!

If you
can't say something nice, don't say anything.

How about this, for you: if you can't say anything useful, don't say
anything.

Mustang Sally

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in message:

If you
can't say something nice, don't say anything.

How 'bout we change that to 'If you can't say something helpful, don't say
anything at all'?

Suja

On Jul 22, 4:23*pm, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
"Suja" wrote in message

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"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in message:

So far, except for myself and Sparrow, only JH has attempted to supply
some actual advice and encouragement.

Riiiight. *Then I must be seeing things, 'cause both Mary and Chris, both
of
whom know what they're doing, have offered good, solid advice.

Their posts had not appeared on my news reader at the time I composed the
post. So I commend them for doing what the rest of you have not. If you
can't say something nice, don't say anything.

Paul and Muttley

What we have not done is provide irresponsible advice.

Nick

"sighthounds & siberians" said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

The rest of us haven't offered advice because we don't have
relevant experience. I've done rescue for years, and have
quite a bit of experience with shy dogs, but this doesn't
appear to be a shy dog.

And I can't even begin to count the number of dogs I've worked
with, even abused dogs (yes, Paul, dogs which really were
abused) from rescues to which I offer free
daycare/socialisation.

The OP's situation is beyond me, so I offered the best advice I
could: none.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in message
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