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Old July 22nd 08, 10:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Suja" wrote:

Being
Angels must be hard work, 'cause clearly, something broke inside of them,
and the Debbil made them do it.

All kidding aside, I am wondering if something is wrong. Pan used to be
free fed. She hadn't touched anything that wasn't in her bowl for 7 years
of her life, and now she's breaking into the food bin and helping herself.
And acting like she's starving, although she had pounds of food in her
stomach. Vet checks all around. They're going to think that I'm nuts.


I figure let them think I'm nuts, because I'm pretty much always right.

OTOH, being angels IS hard work and you just don't appreciate that
enough.

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Old July 22nd 08, 10:46 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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The past few weekends have been super busy for us. In that time, we've
hosted an aunt, a cousin, her hubby, dog, cousin's hubby (again), ELB, SIL,
her daughter and grandma and their dogs, BIL, and Rajesh's sister, hubby, 2
nephews, and in-laws. The dogs have been amazing, dealing with all the
chaos, the irregular schedule, all the comings and goings and all sorts of
new people tromping through the house. Pan didn't even bat an eye when the
older nephew pushed the younger one, and he fell on her face while she was
gumming up her rawhide. IOW, total angels.

I got up very early yesterday to see the BIL off, opened the container where
the dogs' food is kept, realized that we only had a tiny bit of the mixer
food (Fromm Duck and something) left, and portioned it among the dogs,
although they normally don't get mixer kibble for breakfast. Dogs acted
like they were starving, and Pan was sitting and blowing bubbles as I made
her wait before eating.

Later, as I was reading the newspaper and listening to Pan slurp up the
water like she had been marooned in a desert for a week, I realized
something. The 5 pound bag of dog food had only been opened 2 days before,
when the food provided by ELB for his dogs had run out. Instead of just a
few pieces of kibble being left at the bottom of the bag, there should be
about 5 pounds of food in there. I immediately picked up the water.
Checked Pan, only to realize that she was looking a bit like a pot bellied
pig. She was uncomfortable all day long, as she tried to settle down, with
pounds of dog food in her stomach (vet adviced watch and wait, only a little
water at a time). She was unhappy with being given ice cubes instead of
water, and unhappier still when I picked up the bowl of ice cubes 'cause she
decided she was going to eat them whole. She pooped many times but did not
have an upset stomach, and was *terribly* unhappy when she got nothing but
water and 1/2 a tbsp of canned food for dinner while Khan got to eat.

This morning, Rajesh reported that Khan had pooped massively. So, he had
apparently partaken in the gorge as well, but being hairy (I had palpated
his stomach to make sure) and not so thirsty (probably 'cause he didn't eat
as much), had escaped notice. It was rice gruel all around for breakfast.
And so it shall be for dinner, and possibly all day tomorrow as well. Being
Angels must be hard work, 'cause clearly, something broke inside of them,
and the Debbil made them do it.

All kidding aside, I am wondering if something is wrong. Pan used to be
free fed. She hadn't touched anything that wasn't in her bowl for 7 years
of her life, and now she's breaking into the food bin and helping herself.
And acting like she's starving, although she had pounds of food in her
stomach. Vet checks all around. They're going to think that I'm nuts.

Suja


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Old July 22nd 08, 10:57 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Suja" wrote in
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...Checked Pan, only to realize that she
was looking a bit like a pot bellied pig. She was uncomfortable all
day long,


I remember the (first) time Noah did this. Try wrapping a 35 lb dog around
5+ lbs of kibble. He was miserable, poor wretch. I was frantic, thinking
he was going to rupture something vital. The vet was, well, pretty much
like your vet: "wait and see". NOT reassuring words, btw.

All kidding aside, I am wondering if something is wrong. Pan used to
be free fed. She hadn't touched anything that wasn't in her bowl for
7 years of her life, and now she's breaking into the food bin and
helping herself.


With all the visitors and (I presume) disruptions to their routine, it
could just be a little "acting out". Or maybe Pan's found a new hobby...

I hope it's nothing, but completely understand your desire to get 'em
checked over.

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Old July 22nd 08, 11:02 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message:

I figure let them think I'm nuts, because I'm pretty much always right.


I can just imagine how this conversation is going to go.

Tech: So, what problems are you having

Me: My dog acts like she's starving all the time

Tech:

Tech: You do realize she is a DOG, right?

OTOH, being angels IS hard work and you just don't appreciate that
enough.


True enough. Pan was way nicer to Shazzy than she deserved.

Suja


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Old July 22nd 08, 11:20 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Mary Healey" wrote in message:

I remember the (first) time Noah did this. Try wrapping a 35 lb dog

around
5+ lbs of kibble.


Wow. That's an accomplishment.

I was frantic, thinking
he was going to rupture something vital.


I was convinced it was going to end in surgery. Either for bloat, or for an
impaction.

The vet was, well, pretty much
like your vet: "wait and see". NOT reassuring words, btw.


Basically. I think it was Matt's Rocky that had done something, and if
memory serves, the treatment protocol also consisted of wait and see. I
wasn't panicky, mostly because I knew someone else had done it, but whenever
Pan would lay down for 5 minutes, I'd sneak over to check on her and make
sure she was breathing, her gums were pink, she wasn't drooling, trying to
vomit, etc.

With all the visitors and (I presume) disruptions to their routine, it
could just be a little "acting out". Or maybe Pan's found a new hobby...


We've had a nebulous sort of result from Pan's thyroid panel previously, and
her levels didn't improve on meds (nor is she symptomatic), so we just let
it go. Now that I have one dog with Cushing's, I'm wondering if the other
one does as well, because ravenous hunger is a sign of it, and it can cause
abnormal other endocrine readings. $1000 later, I'll find out that it's
just her new hobby.

I hope it's nothing, but completely understand your desire to get 'em
checked over.


She's been my mostly healthy, non-money pit dog. It would be a shame for
that to end.

Suja


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Old July 22nd 08, 11:21 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I think it was Matt's Rocky that had done something, and if
memory serves, the treatment protocol also consisted of
wait and see.


Yup, and the first thing I did was what you did: pick up the
water dish. I was really concerned until Rocky asked to go
outside to vomit. His phrasing was something like "urka gurka."

I think that I was up 3 times that night for repeat
performances. The next day he had large poops (but not as bad a
when he ate 4 pounds of apples) and then all was well. And no
seizures, either, which I fully expected but dreaded - on such a
full stomach I thought that a seizure may easily initiate
torsion.

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Old July 23rd 08, 12:01 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Rocky wrote:

"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:


I think it was Matt's Rocky that had done something, and if
memory serves, the treatment protocol also consisted of
wait and see.



Yup, and the first thing I did was what you did: pick up the
water dish. I was really concerned until Rocky asked to go
outside to vomit. His phrasing was something like "urka gurka."


Must be a difference in dialect. When my guys tore open and consumed
and ungodly amount of dog food, the need to go outside and puke was
phrased more like "Unga. Gerp. Hork, hork, hork, splort".

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Old July 23rd 08, 12:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Kathleen" wrote in message:

Must be a difference in dialect. When my guys tore open and consumed
and ungodly amount of dog food, the need to go outside and puke was
phrased more like "Unga. Gerp. Hork, hork, hork, splort".


I don't know if Pan was trying to get herself to vomit or felt like getting
a little salad to go with her kibble, but she was *desperately* searching
for more grass, in between checking the water bowl to see if I've refilled
it. There was, unfortunately for her, no horking.

Suja


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Old July 23rd 08, 12:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article ,
Kathleen wrote:

When my guys tore open and consumed
and ungodly amount of dog food, the need to go outside and puke was
phrased more like "Unga. Gerp. Hork, hork, hork, splort".


Lucy's phrasing was "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" followed by frantic
scrambling from under the bed, and explosion once outdoors.

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Old July 23rd 08, 12:34 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Terri wrote:

The next day he had large poops (but not as bad a
when he ate 4 pounds of apples)


_4_. Pounds?
Thud.


I missed this! Rocky ate 4# of apples? Geez louise! My dogs eat
apples every day and lets just say that a few make a LARGE difference.
Too many and we have urinary issues with Rudy (and did with Franklin as
well - neither seemed to handle the sugar well).

Rudy will actually sit under the apple tree, willing them to drop.

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