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Old July 26th 08, 05:41 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
FurPaw
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TAMAR666BINLADIN raged:

Hey, Sparrow, you forgot the Huggles!

I feel so sorry for you.

Even though you are still vastly upset by folks here in rpbd
failing to embrace your new group, getting annoyed because you
were reprinting some of our posts there without permission (it's
been done by others before you, with equal annoyance expressed
when it happens), you need to understand that folks in the group
have moved on to other topics.

By holding on to your rage, and posting a hate-filled, vile
message, you're just ripping open your own psychic wounds; most
folks here will recognize it as a scream of pain and won't take
the offense that you intend.

Please, for your own sake, let it go and move on.

FurPaw


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Old July 26th 08, 05:59 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
sionnach
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article
,
wrote:
I guess Sparrow didn't realize that when you can click a profile
button on Google you get her full posting history for the gmail
account she used.


If you use a newsreader that displays full headers it was
out there for all to see.


Yep, and even if you don't, it's transparent. I use Outlook Express, and
all I had to do was right-click on the poster's name, then click
"properties" to see it was Sparrow. Pops right up: TAMAR666BINLADIN
, cut'n'pasted directly from her post.



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Old July 26th 08, 06:16 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
sionnach
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I notice that she cc'd it to her dog group... wonder if she did it openly,
or if she's pretending to be "tamar666binladen" on there, too?
As I've said several times before, this kid seriously needs help.

Also - "Melinda Shore"wrote:

. I'm not sure how people using
Outlook and stuff like that would do elementary forensics.


Outlook doesn't have native newgroup capability (although there are add-ons
which can give it the capability. In Outlook Express, all I had to do was
open the message, right-click on the name at "from", then click "properties"
to see the posting address. If I right-click on the message itself, click
"properties", then click on the tab for "details", I get the following,
which I presume is the "full header" for the message.

Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews.google.com!k13g2000hse.googlegr oups.com!not-for-mail
From: TAMAR666BINLADIN
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Subject: Religion & Animal Sacrifice-SOMTIR
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 66
Message-ID:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.195
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217068986 17029 127.0.0.1 (26 Jul 2008 10:43:06
GMT)
X-Complaints-To:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:43:06 +0000 (UTC)
Cc:

Complaints-To:

Injection-Info: k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.188.117.195;
posting-account=AJI2PwoAAADYGUAiSjDyuDbDH1SOVbiz
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; CS 2000 6.0; NS Connect
6.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tb09.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7029] (Prism/1.2.1),
HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ah03.proxy.aol.com[CDBC75C3] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5
[uScM])



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Old July 26th 08, 06:24 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"sionnach" wrote:

If I right-click on the message itself, click "properties", then click on
the tab for "details", I get the following, which I presume is the full
headers?



Just noticed that there's a button on the "details" screen which says
"message source", which gives the following, as well as the entire body of
the message:

Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews.google.com!k13g2000hse.googlegr oups.com!not-for-mail
From: TAMAR666BINLADIN
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Subject: Religion & Animal Sacrifice-SOMTIR
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 66
Message-ID:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.195
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217068986 17029 127.0.0.1 (26 Jul 2008 10:43:06
GMT)
X-Complaints-To:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:43:06 +0000 (UTC)
Cc:

Complaints-To:

Injection-Info: k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.188.117.195;
posting-account=AJI2PwoAAADYGUAiSjDyuDbDH1SOVbiz
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; CS 2000 6.0; NS Connect
6.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tb09.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7029] (Prism/1.2.1),
HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ah03.proxy.aol.com[CDBC75C3] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5
[uScM])



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Old July 26th 08, 08:37 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"sionnach" wrote in message
...

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article
,
wrote:
I guess Sparrow didn't realize that when you can click a profile
button on Google you get her full posting history for the gmail
account she used.


If you use a newsreader that displays full headers it was
out there for all to see.


Yep, and even if you don't, it's transparent. I use Outlook Express, and
all I had to do was right-click on the poster's name, then click
"properties" to see it was Sparrow. Pops right up: TAMAR666BINLADIN
, cut'n'pasted directly from her post.


That's fairly common knowledge. I don't think Google has the ability to
forge posts or hide identities in the headers. The best one could do would
be to set up another account on a public computer and post from there.

But poor fractured Sparrow is self-admittedly not very good with computers,
and may have thought she could hide her identity behind a goofy username
when she made this vicious and disturbing post. A direct reply to the
sender goes to her email account, and the post was also CCd to the
AerielsPuppyPlace group. This post, if one would give it any credibility,
is definitely "over the top" and could be construed as a criminal act,
which could involve the FBI.

I would advise Sparrow to consult with her lawyer father and other
relatives, and issue an immediate retraction and apology for this.

Paul and Muttley


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Old July 26th 08, 08:46 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article ,
Paul E. Schoen wrote:
I would advise Sparrow to consult with her lawyer father and other
relatives, and issue an immediate retraction and apology for this.


The thing that surprises me is how someone who's such a
run-of-the-mill dumbass could be capable of such
breathtaking feats of dumbassery.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
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Old July 26th 08, 08:46 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article
,
wrote:

Booze, Bichons and Bison?


Oh my!
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* | Dilbert: I prefer to think of it as no loose ends.
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Old July 26th 08, 09:09 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Melinda Shore" wrote:

The thing that surprises me is how someone who's such a
run-of-the-mill dumbass could be capable of such
breathtaking feats of dumbassery.


Because she's not rational? I don't often agree with Paul, but I think
"poor fractured Sparrow" is just about accurate.


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Old July 26th 08, 09:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
sionnach wrote:
Because she's not rational?


I'm referring to Paul.
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
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Old July 26th 08, 09:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
sionnach
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
sionnach wrote:
Because she's not rational?


I'm referring to Paul.


Ah. Is clear now...


 




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