On 1 Aug 2008 02:47:59 GMT, Rocky wrote:

sighthounds & siberians said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

This whole conversation is happening *way* too soon after
my little furbaby came out of her first heat. I was just
getting used to huge nipples.

Your WHAT?!?!?!

My little cutey furbaby. You should see her new summer outfits!
She's just precious in them.

I'd pay a lot to see your cutey furbaby dressed up in new summer
outfits...

(I trolled Sally!)

It was something about seeing "furbaby" and "Matt. Rocky's a dog." in
the same paragraph.

To tell you the truth, though, anytime a dog (yes, I'm talking
about YOU, Friday) wanted to commit unspeakable acts with Maybe,
I certainly protected her as if she was my precious furbaby.

Oh, I can just imagine. The worst part was probably when Maybe wanted
to commit unspeakable acts too.

Mustang Sally

Spooooool wrote:

Sam is a year and a quarter and it's about time he got his cherry popped.
There's a note in his folder saying the breeder has breeding restrictions to
protect the breed which will be lifted after he has undergone 'breed health
screening'. Anyone know what that is? My vet didn't know, unless it was
some sort of hyper expensive X ray.

Sorry - the thread's kind of gotten away from this original question.

The Golden Retriever Club of America recommends the following tests:

Hips: Either an xray sent to the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals
(http://www.offa.org) or PennHIP xrays (http://www.pennhip.org/).
Technically speaking any vet can do OFA xrays but generally in any
given area there will be just a few vets that do most of the xrays;
you'll need to ask around to find out who they are. (Your breeder
may be able to tell you).

I've heard of everything from $100 to $600 being charged for OFA
xrays, plus another $35 to send them to OFA for evaluation. Also,
a final OFA hip examination can't be done until 2 years of age.

PennHIP tends to be more expensive because there are multiple xrays
involved, and fewer vets can do it. A list of US vets that can do
PennHIP xrays is at http://www.pennhip.org/ReferralUSA.html .

Elbows: xrays sent to OFA. If you do these at the same time as hips
it doesn't cost much more (probably $100). If you submit both sets
of xrays to OFA at the same time the fee is $40; elbows alone are
$35. Again, elbows can't be evaluated until 2 years of age.

CERF eye exam: this needs to be done by a board-certified veterinary
opthalmologist. A list of opthalmologists can be found at
http://www.vmdb.org/clinic.html . The cheapest way to go is to find
a clinic where an opthalmologist is examining large numbers of dogs;
these tend to run $30-$40. A list of upcoming clinics can
be found at http://www.vmdb.org/upcomingCERFclinics.html . My own
opthalmologist charges $80 for a regular CERF exam at her office.
Unlike the other tests this one needs to be repeated annually.
Registration with CERF costs $12 for the first year and $8 a year
thereafter.

Cardiac examination by a board-certified veterinary opthalmologist:
you can find a list at http://www.acvim.org/Specialist/Search.aspx
(select "Cardiology" as the speciality and your state).

A list of 4,657 Golden Retrievers that have had all these tests
done and have their test results on file can be found at
http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/resu...Begin&breed=GR .

Hope that helps.

Dianne

Rocky wrote:

To tell you the truth, though, anytime a dog (yes, I'm talking
about YOU, Friday) wanted to commit unspeakable acts with Maybe,
I certainly protected her as if she was my precious furbaby.

Why?

It always amused the heck out of me when K.C. and Chloe performed
oral sex on each other. Chloe especially - she was so much smaller
than him, she'd just wander over, stick her head under his tummy,
and start giving him a blow job.

What can I say? Although she was spayed, they loved each other
very much.

:-)

Dianne

Kathleen wrote:

Dear Sis is an RN who owns a rather excellent microscope for on-the-spot
specimen evaluation and has access to state-of-the art collection and
storage facilities. She has gained respect as a local terrier fertility
expert and in her opinion, Scotties warrant OT rates (carpal tunnel
being an obvious hazard).

LOL :-).

Speaking of semen evaluations (yeah, now I'm going to brag a bit) - before
Utah was used the second time, the breeder wanted a semen evaluation done
on him (not an unreasonable request). The poor tech that had to do it!
She had one of those little clicky-counter things and I could hear her go
click-click-click-click in the next room for probably 20 minutes. Then
she did her calculations and came out and conferred sotto voce with the
vet that had done the collection. Then he turned around and called the
vet who owned the practice, who was out of town at the time.

Of course I was curious as to what was up. They were both kind of
embarrassed when they came to give me the results: turned out that the
reason it had taken so long is that they thought they'd screwed up the
calculations. But they'd actually been right the first time; they just
hadn't trusted the results because they were so good. I forget the exact
numbers but his sperm count was SO high that if they'd've been freezing
it for storage there would've been enough for *17* inseminations
(generally speaking, getting enough for 4-6 is considered good!!)

Silly of me, but I'm kind of proud of him for that :-).

Dianne

(null) wrote:

snip excellent summary of work to be done

In other words, unless you're considering breeding your golden to some
back-alley bitch whose only credentials are intact gonads, your boy's
not likely to get laid any time soon.

Get busy or get him neutered.

In article ,
((null)) wrote:


Cardiac examination by a board-certified veterinary opthalmologist:

Or better yet, a cardiologist?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

In article ,
"Suja" wrote:


Some things, I'm better off not knowing about. Thanks a *lot*.

Stop reading now. It gets more graphic. SO glad I'll spay Marcie after
her first heat!

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

In article ,
Suja wrote:
Some things, I'm better off not knowing about. Thanks a *lot*.

I had no idea. Among racing Siberians it's usually the case
that they do a live breeding. It can be kind of a social
occasion, but that's another story.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
I had no idea. Among racing Siberians it's usually the case
that they do a live breeding. It can be kind of a social
occasion, but that's another story.

At our breeder's house, even an AI breeding involves wine. For the people.

But then, most everything that happens at her house involves wine.

Judy

"(null)" wrote in message:

Besides which, in a lot of cases the dog doesn't even "get to have
sex". Both the breedings my dog has had have been via artificial
insemination. (I do have to admit that he seems to enjoy semen
collections a lot though. If you insist on knowing the technical
details, it involves a hand job.)

Some things, I'm better off not knowing about. Thanks a *lot*.

Suja