"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

He isn't a rude dog. No jumping up, no nudging of hands,
etc. But, he does want the attention, NOW!!! and is
especially adept at suckering new people into it.

Puppies do that, even 8 month old large puppies.

She
would really rather he left people alone until they ask if
he wants pets.

WWJD? Janet said Sit, Stay. It sounds like Sid's sit-stay
needs some more work.

Something else to try: exuberant dogs sometimes prefer throwing
themselves into a down and will often hold it longer than a sit.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

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Rocky wrote:


WWJD? Janet said Sit, Stay. It sounds like Sid's sit-stay
needs some more work.

Heh. A friend of mine with a [totally non-worked] JRT, got married a
couple of years ago. My friend grew up in a show-dog household with her
father as a judge and was long of the opinion that training "breaks
spirits" (she has since understood the value of obedience training, but
doesn't follow through a lot). The guy she married (each on their
second marriage) is NOT a dog person. When the dog is doing something
obnoxious, he started asking "What would Janet do?". They've been
married over 2 years. He still asks. Sigh......

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Rocky" wrote in message:

Puppies do that, even 8 month old large puppies.

Her owner was initially okay with his behavior, hoping that it will get
better as he grows older, but it has become worse over time. While he has
always seen any open laps as an invitation to plop his butt down, the
whining and carrying on are fairly recent additions to the repetoire.

WWJD? Janet said Sit, Stay. It sounds like Sid's sit-stay
needs some more work.

He does, if he is asked to. It's not perfect, but he *is* an 8 month old.
What she wants is a default behavior in the non-pester, non-dramatic vein.

Something else to try: exuberant dogs sometimes prefer throwing
themselves into a down and will often hold it longer than a sit.

He will put himself away in a crate at home when asked. He will do a pretty
decent sit-stay or down-stay elsewhere. The accompanying histrionics are
still there, however. No one said you can't whine and cry while you're in
your sit or down/stay. The more resistant you are to his attempts, the
harder he tries. Thankfully, the 'Ooh, Shiny!' factor is still at play, so
there are opportunities to reward appropriate behavior, but he is pretty
insistent that the world love on him. Now, dammitt!!

Suja

Suja

"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Thankfully, the 'Ooh, Shiny!' factor is still at play, so
there are opportunities to reward appropriate behavior, but
he is pretty insistent that the world love on him. Now,
dammitt!!

I certainly understand the above. It's also an issue that so
many people are willing to totally undo all sorts of your
training because "oooooh, a puuuuuppy".

*Later* it's called proofing.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

On Aug 4, 4:47 pm, Rocky wrote:
"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Thankfully, the 'Ooh, Shiny!' factor is still at play, so
there are opportunities to reward appropriate behavior, but
he is pretty insistent that the world love on him. Now,
dammitt!!

I certainly understand the above. It's also an issue that so
many people are willing to totally undo all sorts of your
training because "oooooh, a puuuuuppy".

*Later* it's called proofing.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


Although quite extreme, this sounds like a pretty common case.

1st step: don't let any strangers pet the dog. Kindly say he's in
training.

2nd step: you don't pet the dog. I would go so far as saying that the
dog should receive no affection (other than food, water, and a walk -
which is all it really needs anyway) for like 3 or 4 days. That may
sound cruel, but letting a dog live like this isn't healthy for the
dog or for the owners. Allowing the dog to live a stable life for the
rest of it's years is well worth it.

Hope this helps - and remember that dog's are animals, and what they
perceive as love and happiness is different from that of a human.

Mitch - Bxr Ownr wrote:

Although quite extreme, this sounds like a pretty common case.

1st step: don't let any strangers pet the dog. Kindly say he's in
training.

2nd step: you don't pet the dog. I would go so far as saying that the
dog should receive no affection (other than food, water, and a walk -
which is all it really needs anyway) for like 3 or 4 days. That may
sound cruel, but letting a dog live like this isn't healthy for the
dog or for the owners. Allowing the dog to live a stable life for the
rest of it's years is well worth it.

Hope this helps - and remember that dog's are animals, and what they
perceive as love and happiness is different from that of a human.

WTF?!? Letting a dog live like *what* isn't healthy? Never let
strangers pet your dog?

What planet are you from, anyway?

Dianne

Mitch - Bxr Ownr said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Hope this helps - and remember that dog's are animals, and
what they perceive as love and happiness is different from
that of a human.

Sorry, it doesn't help. I don't anthropomorphize and you
shouldn't assume that I so perceive dogs.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.