Theresa sure stepped up in this episode. I hadn't had much respect for her
until this week. I disagree with the judges regarding her performance and
looking at Leroy with a discerning look. (I can't stand Leroy's barking!!!)

But I thought Theresa made a really classy move, and my respect for her
really shot up. I thought they did a terrific performance as well.


According to Bill and Star's website, Theresa and Leroy were in a bad
accident recently on the way to her grandmother's funeral. An 18 wheeler ran
them off the road. Leroy had bumps and bruises and Theresa was in the
hospital - stitches in her face, surgery, etc. She has gotten tons of hate
mail (including PETA). Bill and Star would like everyone to keep them in your
thoughts and prayers.

diddy none spoke these words of wisdom in
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Theresa sure stepped up in this episode. I hadn't had much respect for
her until this week. I disagree with the judges regarding her
performance and looking at Leroy with a discerning look. (I can't stand
Leroy's barking!!!)

But I thought Theresa made a really classy move, and my respect for her
really shot up. I thought they did a terrific performance as well.



Last week Leroy bit Teresa.

I like Teresa, but that Leroy!! I don't think I could stand to live with
him. Obviously they are a team, and it works for them. I'm glad. I'm
divided, because I like Theresa, but not the dog.

"diddy" none wrote in message:

Last week Leroy bit Teresa.

I heard that it was well deserved.

I like Teresa, but that Leroy!! I don't think I could stand to live with
him. Obviously they are a team, and it works for them. I'm glad. I'm
divided, because I like Theresa, but not the dog.

I knew Theresa well before she had Leroy. She was nice and helpful, willing
to think outside the box and work with Khan's quirks and stayed after class
every single time to give us more guidance and ideas on what to do with him.

I've met Leroy once or twice, at the dog park, years ago. He seemed like
your average nutty BC. He was the BF's dog, and she told me how absolutely
blown away she was that he constantly wanted to do something, and for the
first time, she had a dog that wanted to learn for as long as she was
willing to teach.

Suja

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"diddy" none wrote in message:

Last week Leroy bit Teresa.

I heard that it was well deserved.

I like Teresa, but that Leroy!! I don't think I could stand to live with
him. Obviously they are a team, and it works for them. I'm glad. I'm
divided, because I like Theresa, but not the dog.

I knew Theresa well before she had Leroy. She was nice and helpful,
willing
to think outside the box and work with Khan's quirks and stayed after
class
every single time to give us more guidance and ideas on what to do with
him.

I've met Leroy once or twice, at the dog park, years ago. He seemed like
your average nutty BC. He was the BF's dog, and she told me how
absolutely
blown away she was that he constantly wanted to do something, and for the
first time, she had a dog that wanted to learn for as long as she was
willing to teach.

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/3011.page

There are some interesting comments about her inciting the dog to anger,
rather than just having him trained to display what appears to be anger on
command. When I saw Cesar Milan on a late night show about a year ago, he
had a well-trained pit bull, and the host said he didn't look scary at all.
Cesar said, "You wanna see him?". He gave a barely perceptable command, and
the dog started growling and snarling in a very aggressive manner, and then
he turned off the fearsome display just as quickly.

http://dogblog.dogster.com/2008/07/3...t-yes-tonight/
What was up with her spraying liquid in her dog's face and using rubber
"snarl" bands on his snout? Don't we have enough anger in this world
already? Why provoke a dog to display it? Why not a big smile, or a yawn?

So, now that her dog has a bite record, does that mean she must now always
take extraordinary precautions with him, as Nick has insisted I must do
with Muttley?

Paul and Muttley

On 2008-08-07 12:43:14 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen" said:

So, now that her dog has a bite record, does that mean she must now always
take extraordinary precautions with him, as Nick has insisted I must do
with Muttley?

Short answer - yes.

Would you suggest that your training and dog handling skills are on a
par with Teresa's? Is your experience with dogs comparable?

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"diddy" none wrote in message:

Last week Leroy bit Teresa.

I heard that it was well deserved.
Because he got a blow dryer in the face?
Come on. Dogs at groomers get blow dryers all the time. HARDLY well
deserved. People are blowing this out of proportion. Leroy us a nutty BC,
but temperamentally unstable. She used rubber bands, also which are
approved by the American Humane Society when supervising on the set of film
productions.
A big bally-hoo flap was dramacized over that too. But if the AHS deemed it
humane, then the flap is simply... drama. I had no problems with her doing
that, and the results were amazing. The issue was, her assignment was to
make Leroy look angry. She did it with AHS approvedd methods without
taunting, prodding, provoking, or annoying her dog. I feel the TV show
was wrong to even ASK her to portray her dog as such. If she wasn't
allowed to use AHS approved methods, and she did not provok or abuse or
tease the dog, it sounds as if she was in a lose/lose situation, and the
show was wrong to assign that assignment.
I certainly would have simply declined and withdrawn, meaning that if it
resulted in being evicted, I would have taken the eviction risk rather than
erode my relationship and trust of my dog.

Teresa found a way to do that without betraying the relationship. Teresa
got the shaft.




I like Teresa, but that Leroy!! I don't think I could stand to live
with him. Obviously they are a team, and it works for them. I'm glad.
I'm divided, because I like Theresa, but not the dog.

I knew Theresa well before she had Leroy. She was nice and helpful,
willing to think outside the box and work with Khan's quirks and stayed
after class every single time to give us more guidance and ideas on what
to do with him.
She does seem to be able to think outside the box.

I've met Leroy once or twice, at the dog park, years ago. He seemed
like your average nutty BC. He was the BF's dog, and she told me how
absolutely blown away she was that he constantly wanted to do something,
and for the first time, she had a dog that wanted to learn for as long
as she was willing to teach.

Heh. I have dogs like that. Always wanting to learn more, without barking
too much and always having an off switch.
Unfortunately this dog seems to constantly shut down on tv.
Still glad I don't have Leroy, but Teresa's stock definitely went up in my
eyes.

Suja

"diddy" none wrote in message:

Come on. Dogs at groomers get blow dryers all the time. HARDLY well
deserved.

Like I said, I *heard* that it was well deserved. I tried watching the
first episode, and couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. Since then, I've
just been following commentary on the episodes and dogs and their trainers
here and there.

Heh. I have dogs like that. Always wanting to learn more, without barking
too much and always having an off switch.

Yeah, someone should've clued her in to Elkhounds. If I had known much
about Danny at the time I would've definitely mentioned looking into one.

Unfortunately this dog seems to constantly shut down on tv.

I'm really surprised. He's been on TV tons - David Letterman, Pet Star,
etc.

Still glad I don't have Leroy, but Teresa's stock definitely went up in
my
eyes.

Glad to hear. She was very good to Khan and I when we were starting out,
and she is rescue friendly. I've always liked her.

Suja

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Like I said, I *heard* that it was well deserved. I tried watching the
first episode, and couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. Since then,
I've just been following commentary on the episodes and dogs and their
trainers here and there.
Rumors are rampant by people that wish to nit pic

I haven't seen anything extra-ordinary yet about Leroy that deserves TV
time. Definitely haven't seen anything star quality enough to merit David
Letterman or Pet Star. He just seems to be the average ordinary run of the
mill dog park flavor. Maybe she's hiding something for the Finale"?

Yeah, someone should've clued her in to Elkhounds. If I had known much
about Danny at the time I would've definitely mentioned looking into
one.

Many people who met Danny bought into Elkhounds thinking they would get one
like him. They didn't. My REKA would be what you might expect to get when
you get an Elkhound. A damned fine dog, if I say so myself. But if you
expected a dog like Danny, you would be dissappointed.

Ohio, especially MY area, seems to be the highest elkhound population in
the country regarding elkhound rescue.
They are a common dog here. A lot of people saw Danny and got one like him.
They never realized that the Elkhound SHEDS .. a LOT. Many people asked me
how Danny never shed. I told them they didn't see the HOURS I spent
brushing him before a performance. I'm not talking about the day before the
performance, I mean DAILY, months before the performance.

Oh.. they didn't KNOW about THAT!

Had they asked me, I'd warned them that they SHED

H?eck when puppy buyers came to look at elkhounds, I told them they should
see an adult first.
I was warned these people were neatniks, and they had never owned a dog
before.

They said, they would brush DAILY.

So I invited them over.
I showed them how to brush and Elkhound. They were amazed at the hair.

And then i showed them the hair I had already taken out of the dog in 3
shopping bags before they came.
And the bags the day before, and the day before, and the day before, that I
labeled each day in preparation for their arrival.

They realized then that the elkhound was NOT the dog for THEM. So they got
an Eskimo Spitz.

And last I heard, they sent it back to the breeder because IT SHED"S!

Unfortunately this dog seems to constantly shut down on tv.

I'm really surprised. He's been on TV tons - David Letterman, Pet Star,
etc.

Just what did he do that was special on TV?

"diddy" none wrote in message:

I haven't seen anything extra-ordinary yet about Leroy that deserves TV
time. Definitely haven't seen anything star quality enough to merit David
Letterman or Pet Star. He just seems to be the average ordinary run of the
mill dog park flavor. Maybe she's hiding something for the Finale"?

No idea. I met him at the dog park, where he was your average run of the
mill crazy BC, just under better control than most.

And last I heard, they sent it back to the breeder because IT SHED"S!

You'd think, *after* what you showed them that they'd investigate what the
hell happens with all the hair on that hairy dog. People are such idiots.


Just what did he do that was special on TV?

This is his resume: http://www.onedogatatime.com/adw/leroy/resume.pdf I've
watched him perform once, and that was on Pet Star (the details are in the
resume, I believe). There are videos at the website too:
http://www.onedogatatime.com/adw/leroy/tricks.asp

Suja

I have lurked here for 2 or 3 years and have learned so very much. I hold
diddy high in esteem and only wish to correct what I THINK is an error on
her part.

My husband works for the AMERICAN HUMANE ASSOCIATION, which is NOT the same
thing as the American Humane Society. The American Humane Association is
the organization that maintains film and TV oversight. They have made a
statement on their main page of their website regarding the show. Please,
read their info so that all here get the correct information with regards to
the humane treatment of animals during the production of this show. They
were NOT allowed to monitor the episode in question.

http://www.americanhumane.org/site/P...gename=pa_film



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"diddy" none wrote in message:

Last week Leroy bit Teresa.

I heard that it was well deserved.
Because he got a blow dryer in the face?
Come on. Dogs at groomers get blow dryers all the time. HARDLY well
deserved. People are blowing this out of proportion. Leroy us a nutty BC,
but temperamentally unstable. She used rubber bands, also which are
approved by the American Humane Society when supervising on the set of
film
productions.
A big bally-hoo flap was dramacized over that too. But if the AHS deemed
it
humane, then the flap is simply... drama. I had no problems with her doing
that, and the results were amazing. The issue was, her assignment was to
make Leroy look angry. She did it with AHS approvedd methods without
taunting, prodding, provoking, or annoying her dog. I feel the TV show
was wrong to even ASK her to portray her dog as such. If she wasn't
allowed to use AHS approved methods, and she did not provok or abuse or
tease the dog, it sounds as if she was in a lose/lose situation, and the
show was wrong to assign that assignment.
I certainly would have simply declined and withdrawn, meaning that if it
resulted in being evicted, I would have taken the eviction risk rather
than
erode my relationship and trust of my dog.