On 2008-09-11 13:32:21 -0400, Shelly said:

Last night I saw a young man walking the most adorable Pit Bull
puppy...

That's heartbreaking. You have to wonder if the person is blissfully
unaware of the law, or just doesn't care?

Yes.

I didn't want to tell him.

I assume the puppy is too little to have a license, which might have
triggered a visit from the animal warden - which may possibly have
allowed that puppy to be grandfathered in.

Meanwhile, there is a petition for a referendum issue moving forward,
but too many people won't stand up for "dangerous" dogs.

And it isn't about dogs, in reality, it's a racial issue.

"kat" wrote in message
net...

"Sue and Atty" wrote in message
...

"Shelly" wrote in message
6...
I got home from cat sitting this morning to find that the management
folks had sent out fliers to everyone in my building. Apparently,
folks have been letting their dogs run loose. They've also gotten
complaints about people letting their dogs relieve themselves out
front (a huge no-no that's addressed in our leases) and on the
sidewalks (yuck!), and that people aren't cleaning up after their
dogs.

We went to the closing of the pool on Sunday - a local YMCA has dog games
in
the pool on the last day. Very fun, and constant announcements to pick
up
after your dog. There was an, oh, about 14 year old girl there. Her dog
left a pile on the cement, poolside. She started to walk away, and the
lady
sitting there asked her to clean it up. She looked at it, looked at the
lady, and replied... I'm not cleaning up that ****. And walked away. At
the other end of the pool, a dog had vomited right beside the pool, the
owner left it.

Was there anybody overseeing the event that she could have been reported
to?
She should have been told by the organizers to clean it up and/or escorted
out of the event!

Kathy


She left on her own accord shortly after the incident.
Sue and Atty

"Sue and Atty" wrote in message
...

"kat" wrote in message
net...

"Sue and Atty" wrote in message
...

"Shelly" wrote in message
6...
I got home from cat sitting this morning to find that the management
folks had sent out fliers to everyone in my building. Apparently,
folks have been letting their dogs run loose. They've also gotten
complaints about people letting their dogs relieve themselves out
front (a huge no-no that's addressed in our leases) and on the
sidewalks (yuck!), and that people aren't cleaning up after their
dogs.

We went to the closing of the pool on Sunday - a local YMCA has dog
games
in
the pool on the last day. Very fun, and constant announcements to pick
up
after your dog. There was an, oh, about 14 year old girl there. Her
dog
left a pile on the cement, poolside. She started to walk away, and the
lady
sitting there asked her to clean it up. She looked at it, looked at
the
lady, and replied... I'm not cleaning up that ****. And walked away.
At
the other end of the pool, a dog had vomited right beside the pool, the
owner left it.

Was there anybody overseeing the event that she could have been reported
to?
She should have been told by the organizers to clean it up and/or
escorted
out of the event!

Kathy


She left on her own accord shortly after the incident.
Sue and Atty



She was probably afraid someone *would* make her clean it up! lol

Kathy

montana wildhack wrote in
news:2008091114042716807-montana@wildhackcominvalid:

Meanwhile, there is a petition for a referendum issue moving
forward, but too many people won't stand up for "dangerous" dogs.

I think it's hard for many people to see that BSL affects everyone
who owns a dog. That, and the sad fact that far too many people are
just plain scared of bully breeds (and, related to your below point,
"those scary brown people"). It's hard to reason with fear.

And it isn't about dogs, in reality, it's a racial issue.

That's horrible, but not surprising.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Shelly wrote:

. I may write a note and take it by the office tomorrow. That way, it's
in
writing, but it's not anonymous. I don't have a problem standing
behind it, but I want it to be in black and white. Spoken
conversations have a way of getting misinterpreted.

I suppose it would be too much of a pain in the neck to get *pictures* of
the dogs pooping where they shouldn't?

Rocky wrote:
Shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I'm weighing the
pros and cons of pre-emptively telling the management
company exactly who the problem owners are. I really don't
want to do that, though, because I don't want to be a big,
fat tattle-tale. On the other hand, the stakes are kind of
high.

I have no such reservations when it comes to this. Rat them
out.

Absolutely concur. Jerks are due zero consideration.

I'd need a dozen baggies daily were I to clean up after the
other dogs on the route Baron and I take every morning. Grrr

--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
================================================== =======================
"Things that upset a terrier may pass
virtually unnoticed by a Great Dane." -Smiley Blanton

Terri said in part...
You know, no one wants to rat out people but you and Harriet are at risk
here....
_____________________________
Shelly,
That does make for an uncomfortable situation to have to explain to
management that it is a Harriet look alike....but I would do it in a
heartbeat. I would imagine that management may still give Kayla's
owners a warning before ousting them and if someone has got to be
looking for a new home I don't think it should be you and Harriet.


Be Free.....Judy

"Judith Althouse" wrote in message
...

That does make for an uncomfortable situation to have to explain to
management that it is a Harriet look alike....but I would do it in a
heartbeat.

I did! And I talked to the head of maintenance. She said that the
problem was with the folks above her (Kayla's owners) and with someone
in the next court, who has been letting their Pit Bull run loose.
Surprisingly, it was not the same Pit Bull that I always see running
loose. Now, why they can't just deal with those people and leave
everyone else out of it, beats me.

I've noticed a sudden lack of land mines on the front laws and
sidewalks, which is good. I hope this means that Kayla's owners got the
message. They do seem to be taking the dogs out back more often, and
I've seen them out walking in the neighboorhood, as well. Of course,
they still aren't picking up after their dogs, which is going to get
people in the neighborhood pissed off at them. I don't walk my dog in
the same area that they do, though, so I'm keeping my nose out of it.

I would imagine that management may still give Kayla's
owners a warning before ousting them and if someone has got to be
looking for a new home I don't think it should be you and Harriet.

The notice said that they'd be charging a $50 fine and revoking pet
leases (not one then the other, but both, and there was no mention of an
initial warning). Note that the human's lease is not going to be
revoked. That means that those tenants would have to get rid of their
pet(s) or pay out the rest of their lease and move or get a subletter
(assuming that would be allowed by the management company).

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Shelly" wrote in message
...

Now, why they can't just deal with those people and leave everyone else
out of it, beats me.

Because that's how administration works. Send a note to everyone, then they
don't have to deal with the individual who's causing the trouble. It's the
chicken way of dealing with problems. Happens at our school all the time.
General announcements (for example, about being late to work or wearing
inappropriate shoes) instead of discussing it with the offender(s).

It's not like they don't know who's late or wearing flip flops. They just
don't want to *be the boss* and deal with the issue directly. We have 1 or
2 staff members who are habitually late, but we get general announcements on
our daily announcement sheet about it repeatedly. It sure doesn't solve the
problem because these people don't think they're the ones the note refers
to. It's the Ann Landers/letter to the editor syndrome. They're not
talking about me.

I say "man up" (so to speak - our last 3 out of 4 administrators were/are
women) and talk to the person who's causing the trouble. If I'm not the
issue, then don't bother me. It's the professional thing to do.

Sue and Atty

Shelly said in part...
I think it is hard for many people to see that BSL affects everyone that
owns a dog.
______________________________
That is the part that upsets me. I don't understand how others cannot
grasp the concept that today it is happening to my dog/breed. Tomorrow
it could be yours. People should unite, get together on it and stop
BSL. The sad truth is it is often not the breed that is of concern it
is the dog. I know plenty of nasty dogs that are NOT Pit Bulls. One
lives next door to me. He is a Chi mix, but his bite still hurts and he
scares people.


Be Free.....Judy