My daughter's neighbours bought a purebred yellow lab puppy in early July.
Why they thought they could handle a seven week old baby dog when he's a
paramedic, she's a nurse, and they have a tiny toddler about two years old
is beyond me. Daisy's yard doesn't have a fence, so she spends a lot of her
time out on the balcony, crying for company. Until they let her into the
yard. Unsupervised. And so Daisy goes a'visiting. She's been brought home
by my granddaughters many times, my daughter has called them to report
seeing Daisy down the road, and all the surrounding neighbours have had a
turn bringing her home. The dad's excuse? He hasn't had time to put up the
fence yet. Last weekend she was found three streets over. Oh, did I
mention that even with repeated escapes, she wears no collar with a tag
identifying her or having a phone number? Anyway, this good Samaritan
brought Daisy into his home while he tried to find her owners, where she was
mauled by his three dogs. The owner was located, and he told the good
Samaritan that he'd rather he had just left her running the streets, as she
would have made it home on her own eventually. Instead, now he had to deal
with some bloody wounds. This is a four month old puppy! My daughter is
aghast at these people's behaviour and has no idea what to say or do. I
said she might want to at least have them put her phone number on a collar
so when she's killed by a car, they will know who to blame. I didn't really
put it that way, but I did suggest the phone number thing. My daughter is
upset enough with problems with her own rescued dog biting the kids, that
she just doesn't want to worry about someone else's dog. They had her tied
out in the yard today, instead of running free, and they took her to a puppy
class tonight, but unless they are willing to put up a fence, I can't see
this ending well. Oh, and she's barky too. They share the backyard fence
with my daughter's house, so she gets all the noise. *sigh* How do you
tell people they are dumbasses, and still keep them as good neighbours?
--
Phyrie
Kiba the Cav's Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

"Phyrie" wrote in message
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She's been brought home by my granddaughters many times, my daughter
has called them to report seeing Daisy down the road, and all the
surrounding neighbours have had a turn bringing her home.

How about calling AC (assuming there is such a thing where your daughter
lives)?

Instead, now he had to deal with some bloody wounds. This is a four
month old puppy! My daughter is aghast at these people's behaviour
and has no idea what to say or do.

Aghast and pissed off, too, I'd bet. I know I would be! What the hell
is wrong with people?

How do you tell people they are dumbasses, and still keep them as good
neighbours?

I'm coming to the conclusion that, if they're dumbasses, they probably
aren't very good neighbors to begin with.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

Phyrie wrote:
My daughter's neighbours bought a purebred yellow lab puppy in early July.
Why they thought they could handle a seven week old baby dog when he's a
paramedic, she's a nurse, and they have a tiny toddler about two years old
is beyond me.


Daisy's yard doesn't have a fence, so she spends a lot of her
time out on the balcony, crying for company. Until they let her into the
yard. Unsupervised. And so Daisy goes a'visiting. She's been brought home
by my granddaughters many times, my daughter has called them to report
seeing Daisy down the road, and all the surrounding neighbours have had a
turn bringing her home.


The dad's excuse? He hasn't had time to put up the
fence yet. Last weekend she was found three streets over. Oh, did I
mention that even with repeated escapes, she wears no collar with a tag
identifying her or having a phone number? Anyway, this good Samaritan
brought Daisy into his home while he tried to find her owners, where she was
mauled by his three dogs. The owner was located, and he told the good
Samaritan that he'd rather he had just left her running the streets, as she
would have made it home on her own eventually. Instead, now he had to deal
with some bloody wounds. This is a four month old puppy!


My daughter is
aghast at these people's behaviour and has no idea what to say or do. I
said she might want to at least have them put her phone number on a collar
so when she's killed by a car, they will know who to blame. I didn't really
put it that way, but I did suggest the phone number thing. My daughter is
upset enough with problems with her own rescued dog biting the kids, that
she just doesn't want to worry about someone else's dog.


They had her tied
out in the yard today, instead of running free, and they took her to a puppy
class tonight, but unless they are willing to put up a fence, I can't see
this ending well. Oh, and she's barky too. They share the backyard fence
with my daughter's house, so she gets all the noise. *sigh* How do you
tell people they are dumbasses, and still keep them as good neighbours?


(I added some white space to your post for easier reading.)


First, let me give you my approach to any question phrased as "how do
you do x without doing y?" (It's usually "how do I break up with him
without hurting his feelings") I say, if you could have one or the
other, but not both, which would you choose? Think of it in absolute,
even exaggerated, terms. If you had to choose between saving the puppy
and having the worst possible relationship with the neighbors or seeing
the puppy suffer horribly while getting along great with the neighbors,
which would it be? When you think about it like that, the answer comes
clearer.


In this case, my first suggestion would be to see if your daughter could
get Animal Control or some local law enforcement to do the dirty work.
When the collarless puppy escapes, call A.C. and tell them that you
think the pup belongs to those people over there. A.C. usually returns
the dog with a fine, or they make it inconvenient in some way. Like the
owners have to come down to the pound on a work day to get their dog,
pay a certain amount, and the price goes up with each repetition.


Dog barking in the yard? Call A.C. again. Many (I'm tempted to say
most, but I'm not sure) communities have noise ordinances. Puppy
getting mauled or hurt or in danger of getting hit by a car? If it's
bad enough, there are cruelty laws that apply.


Ideally, the owners would learn how to take care of their dog. The
puppy class sounds terrific. They might meet someone there and exchange
day care. (Unlikely, but I'm an optimist.)


--Lia

On 2008-09-17 02:25:58 -0400, "Phyrie" said:

How do you
tell people they are dumbasses, and still keep them as good neighbours?

We have craptacularly feral neighbors two doors south who have gone
through dogs like water. They have had their last dog, a Pug, the
longest. She is frequently out loose and I may be the only long-time
neighbor who will return the dog. Everyone else has had it.

After everything that's went on why hasn't someone call the local dog
catcher or taken her to the shelter themselfs when they see her loose?

Celeste


"Phyrie" wrote in message
...
My daughter's neighbours bought a purebred yellow lab puppy in early July.
Why they thought they could handle a seven week old baby dog when he's a
paramedic, she's a nurse, and they have a tiny toddler about two years old
is beyond me. Daisy's yard doesn't have a fence, so she spends a lot of
her time out on the balcony, crying for company. Until they let her into
the yard. Unsupervised. And so Daisy goes a'visiting. She's been
brought home by my granddaughters many times, my daughter has called them
to report seeing Daisy down the road, and all the surrounding neighbours
have had a turn bringing her home. The dad's excuse? He hasn't had time
to put up the fence yet. Last weekend she was found three streets over.
Oh, did I mention that even with repeated escapes, she wears no collar
with a tag identifying her or having a phone number? Anyway, this good
Samaritan brought Daisy into his home while he tried to find her owners,
where she was mauled by his three dogs. The owner was located, and he
told the good Samaritan that he'd rather he had just left her running the
streets, as she would have made it home on her own eventually. Instead,
now he had to deal with some bloody wounds. This is a four month old
puppy! My daughter is aghast at these people's behaviour and has no idea
what to say or do. I said she might want to at least have them put her
phone number on a collar so when she's killed by a car, they will know who
to blame. I didn't really put it that way, but I did suggest the phone
number thing. My daughter is upset enough with problems with her own
rescued dog biting the kids, that she just doesn't want to worry about
someone else's dog. They had her tied out in the yard today, instead of
running free, and they took her to a puppy class tonight, but unless they
are willing to put up a fence, I can't see this ending well. Oh, and
she's barky too. They share the backyard fence with my daughter's house,
so she gets all the noise. *sigh* How do you tell people they are
dumbasses, and still keep them as good neighbours?
--
Phyrie
Kiba the Cav's Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

"Spot" wrote in message
news:yC9Ak.403$8v5.231@trnddc01...
After everything that's went on why hasn't someone call the local dog
catcher or taken her to the shelter themselfs when they see her loose?

There may not *be* a shelter or "dog catcher."

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

More than likely they are all taking the attitude that they don't want
involved and the dog is the one that suffers because of it.

Celeste

"Shelly" wrote in message
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"Spot" wrote in message
news:yC9Ak.403$8v5.231@trnddc01...
After everything that's went on why hasn't someone call the local dog
catcher or taken her to the shelter themselfs when they see her loose?

There may not *be* a shelter or "dog catcher."

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Spot" wrote in message
...
More than likely they are all taking the attitude that they don't want
involved and the dog is the one that suffers because of it.

If that were the case, Phyrie wouldn't have asked for suggestions, and
her granddaughters woulnd't keep returning the dog to her owners. Those
aren't the actions of people who don't want to get involved.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Shelly" wrote in message
...

"Spot" wrote in message
...
More than likely they are all taking the attitude that they don't want
involved and the dog is the one that suffers because of it.

If that were the case, Phyrie wouldn't have asked for suggestions, and her
granddaughters woulnd't keep returning the dog to her owners. Those
aren't the actions of people who don't want to get involved.

It's a very tight neighbourhood. Lots of cul de sacs and dead ends, with
kids playing at whatever house they like. They all watch out for everyone
else, as well as know "stuff" about each other, as in any small
neighbourhood. My eldest granddaughter babysat for the puppy's owners baby
for the puppy class. It was her very first professional sitting job. The
neighbours exchange pleasantries virtually everyday with my daughter and her
family. They have been over for a drink on more than one occasion. It's a
normal, friendly neighbourhood.

(White space for Julia)

As far as Animal Control, they don't have one as such, although there is a
branch of the S.P.C.A. Dogs are supposed to have licences I think, but I
don't know how many do, or how it would be enforced. Ben, my daughter's
dog, was rescued from the S.P.C.A. The S.P.C.A. does not keep offices or
kennels. They rely totally on fosters to keep animals. It's basically one
woman doing a huge job all by herself. If my daughter called Sylvia (the
S.P.C.A. lady) it would almost certainly get back to the neighbours who made
the call. That could seriously affect my daughter's life in the
neighbourhood, not just with the puppy's owners.
--
Phyrie
Kiba the Cav's Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

Hi Shelly,
I am so happy to see you. I am glad you are back and hope all is well.
I have been in and out with multi-dramas, just dropped in to look
around.


Be Free.....Judy