In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:


I'm just not sure where or what sort of arrangements cats like for
sleeping?

I think the answer to that is: Your bed.

Or maybe in front of the fireplace, or the desk chair, or the back of
the sofa, of the whole guest bed to himself!

One has to decide if they are going to continue to be part of the
problem, or step up and become part of the solution.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Alot of rescues use old ice coolers as shelters. They are insulated all you
need to do is cut a hole for an entrance. The oblong ones are best that way
they can get to the one end away from the entrance and the wind.

Celeste




"tiny dancer" wrote in message
.. .
Any suggestions on shelter for an outdoor cat/kitten? It appears a
starving cat/kitten has adopted us. The poor thing is nothing more than
skin and bones. It belongs to some crappy neighbor who's outdoor cat
spits out at least two litters a year, most of whom appear to
disappear/die? It's the same cat that dropped off a litter in daughters
garage right before the puppy litter.

td

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:

One has to decide if they are going to continue to be part of the
problem, or step up and become part of the solution.

Ok - I went back and read td's second post. The BEST way to help this
is to TNR the mother. Period. Since the kitten is social, get thee to
a decent shelter where it has a chance of a decent life after S/N and
vaccination. Assuming it's healthy of course. But you wouldn't want to
leave a sick or carrier cat out and about anyway, right?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:50:58 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:

I'm just not sure where or what sort of arrangements cats like for
sleeping?

I think the answer to that is: Your bed.

Or maybe in front of the fireplace, or the desk chair, or the back of
the sofa, of the whole guest bed to himself!

One has to decide if they are going to continue to be part of the
problem, or step up and become part of the solution.

It's not necessary for TD to adopt this kitten, and perhaps jeopardize
her daughter's health in the process, to be part of the solution.

Providing shelter, water, and food, for the cats, and perhaps (maybe
with the help of her neighbors, a sympathetic vet, etc.) get them all
spayed/neutered is more than enough.

The only reason that you even replied to TD was because you saw it as
another opportunity to take more cheap-shots at her.

You've morphed into a really nasty, petty, mean-spirited bimbo, just
like your idol Melinda.

spit

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Thinking about giving the Democrats even more power, are you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Video: Who’s responsible for the Fannie and Freddie mess?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/2...-freddie-mess/

Who's to blame?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...hp/rubin/32011

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Prayer, God and War: The Media Elites v. Palin, Clinton, JFK, FDR, and Lincoln.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4...m/instapundit/

British "ethicist" (and apparently a relative of Paul Schoen) wants to euthanize the senile. Too costly for the state!
Think about *that* the next time you think about "national health care".
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/1...d-be-put-down/

Obama instructs supporters to "argue, get in their face". How's that for "change"? spit
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...ers-argue.html

More examples of liberal Jewish "tolerance" for people of other faiths and beliefs.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...manhattan.html

"We are the [vermin] we've been waiting for".
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001600.html

Important Public Health Announcement.
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...-announcement/

This is what happens when you don't build power plants.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ritain-warning

The Culture War's Decisive Battle has Begun.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ve_batt_1.html

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:


It's not necessary for TD to adopt this kitten, and perhaps jeopardize
her daughter's health in the process, to be part of the solution.

I never suggested that she should. Being part of the solution can be
done in many ways.

Providing shelter, water, and food, for the cats, and perhaps (maybe
with the help of her neighbors, a sympathetic vet, etc.) get them all
spayed/neutered is more than enough.

I agree, although that kitten, since social, has a good chance of being
adopted into a home instead of being just another outdoor cat.

The only reason that you even replied to TD was because you saw it as
another opportunity to take more cheap-shots at her.

Not in the least, but I'm not surprised you see it that way. I don't
like roaming cats, for many reasons.

snip inane ramble

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:10:20 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:


It's not necessary for TD to adopt this kitten, and perhaps jeopardize
her daughter's health in the process, to be part of the solution.

I never suggested that she should. Being part of the solution can be
done in many ways.

You attempted to belittle her for supposedly not stepping up and
adopting the kitten herself. Which was your wont all along.

Providing shelter, water, and food, for the cats, and perhaps (maybe
with the help of her neighbors, a sympathetic vet, etc.) get them all
spayed/neutered is more than enough.

I agree, although that kitten, since social, has a good chance of being
adopted into a home instead of being just another outdoor cat.

That's for TD to decide. Technically, the kitten isn't hers.

The only reason that you even replied to TD was because you saw it as
another opportunity to take more cheap-shots at her.

Not in the least,

The only person here who believes that is you.

Bimbo.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Thinking about giving the Democrats even more power, are you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Video: Who’s responsible for the Fannie and Freddie mess?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/2...-freddie-mess/

Who's to blame?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...hp/rubin/32011

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Prayer, God and War: The Media Elites v. Palin, Clinton, JFK, FDR, and Lincoln.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4...m/instapundit/

British "ethicist" (and apparently a relative of Paul Schoen) wants to euthanize the senile. Too costly for the state!
Think about *that* the next time you think about "national health care".
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/1...d-be-put-down/

Obama instructs supporters to "argue, get in their face". How's that for "change"? spit
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...ers-argue.html

More examples of liberal Jewish "tolerance" for people of other faiths and beliefs.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...manhattan.html

"We are the [vermin] we've been waiting for".
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001600.html

Important Public Health Announcement.
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...-announcement/

This is what happens when you don't build power plants.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ritain-warning

The Culture War's Decisive Battle has Begun.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ve_batt_1.html

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:


You attempted to belittle her for supposedly not stepping up and
adopting the kitten herself. Which was your wont all along.

You're reading that crap into it. I would never suggest than an
asthmatic allergic to cats should adopt and keep a cat indoors. If she
wants to DO something, providing a doghouse is inadequate. I stand by
that.

She can continue to not help do anything about the cat across the
street, or the kitten, and watch the cycle go on and on (and then she
can bitch about it here!) or she can try harder and try to be part of
the solution.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:33:24 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:

In article ,
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:

You attempted to belittle her for supposedly not stepping up and
adopting the kitten herself. Which was your wont all along.

You're reading that crap into it.

No I'm not. I'm reading *your* words.

I would never suggest than an
asthmatic allergic to cats should adopt and keep a cat indoors.

Then why try to quilt-trip TD?

I'll tell you why. It's because you're a nasty, petty, mean-spirited
bimbo.

If she
wants to DO something, providing a doghouse is inadequate. I stand by
that.

That's because you're a nasty, petty, mean-spirited bimbo.

Providing them shelter, food, and water is a good start. That more
than qualifies as DOING something.

If she wants to take a shot at solving the problem, too, she can trap
them and then get them all spayed/neutered, find homes for them, etc.,
but she probably doesn't want to go to jail over it either.

She's attempting to do more than anyone else in the area is, so why
not just congratulate her for at least trying to help?

Oh yeah. I forgot.

Nasty, petty, mean-spirited bimbos don't do stuff like that.

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Thinking about giving the Democrats even more power, are you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Video: Who’s responsible for the Fannie and Freddie mess?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/2...-freddie-mess/

Who's to blame?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...hp/rubin/32011

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Prayer, God and War: The Media Elites v. Palin, Clinton, JFK, FDR, and Lincoln.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4...m/instapundit/

British "ethicist" (and apparently a relative of Paul Schoen) wants to euthanize the senile. Too costly for the state!
Think about *that* the next time you think about "national health care".
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/1...d-be-put-down/

Obama instructs supporters to "argue, get in their face". How's that for "change"? spit
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...ers-argue.html

More examples of liberal Jewish "tolerance" for people of other faiths and beliefs.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...manhattan.html

"We are the [vermin] we've been waiting for".
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001600.html

Important Public Health Announcement.
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...-announcement/

This is what happens when you don't build power plants.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ritain-warning

The Culture War's Decisive Battle has Begun.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ve_batt_1.html

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
She can continue to not help do anything about the cat across the
street, or the kitten, and watch the cycle go on and on (and then she
can bitch about it here!)

I don't think it's about the bitching. It's about the
I'MAGOODPERSONAREALLYREALLYGOODPERSONDON'TYOUAGREE I'MAGOODPERSONDAMNIAMONEGOODPERSON,
it seems to me. The day tiny goes out and does a good thing
without sending up signal flares is the day the sun rises in
the west. If she were actually interested in helping and
didn't know what to do, she'd have gone over to the cat
newsgroups where there are people involved with cat rescue
or otherwise contacted people with actual cat rescue
experience. But people over there don't know her, while
people here do.

When my mother found some orphaned feral kittens I suggested
that she get in touch with a cat rescue organization in her
city, and she did and they were an enormous help. But she's
not so much about the cries and pleas and demands for
attention, and more about being effective and getting stuff
done.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:41:24 -0400, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote:

Then why try to quilt-trip TD?

And guilt-trip, too.

Sheesh.

PS: To Julia, have you ever taken a quilt-trip? Say, to New England?

--
Handsome Jack Morrison

Thinking about giving the Democrats even more power, are you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Video: Who’s responsible for the Fannie and Freddie mess?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/2...-freddie-mess/

Who's to blame?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...hp/rubin/32011

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Prayer, God and War: The Media Elites v. Palin, Clinton, JFK, FDR, and Lincoln.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4...m/instapundit/

British "ethicist" (and apparently a relative of Paul Schoen) wants to euthanize the senile. Too costly for the state!
Think about *that* the next time you think about "national health care".
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/1...d-be-put-down/

Obama instructs supporters to "argue, get in their face". How's that for "change"? spit
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...ers-argue.html

More examples of liberal Jewish "tolerance" for people of other faiths and beliefs.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...manhattan.html

"We are the [vermin] we've been waiting for".
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001600.html

Important Public Health Announcement.
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...-announcement/

This is what happens when you don't build power plants.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ritain-warning

The Culture War's Decisive Battle has Begun.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ve_batt_1.html