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Old September 30th 08, 01:11 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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My rescued dachshund is about 8 yrs. old. I cook all of his food. I boil
chicken thighs, take the fat from the broth and cook brown rice, oatmeal,
carrots, barley, and greenbeans. I sauté some ground turkey and add it all
together. He had some health issues when we got him, heart worm and bladder
infections. He seems very healthy now, after 4 yrs. He can have a small
amount of beef but has stomach problems if he has too much. I am mostly a
lurker but I need some advice. He isn't all that eager to eat his food.
Maybe he is tired of the same thing each day. I was thinking of giving him
some canned dog food. He always has Pet's Pride dry food in his dish and
eats a little from time to time. Keeping in mind his very limited dietary
options, what would be a good brand of canned food to give him? I would
appreciate any help.


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Old September 30th 08, 06:28 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Phyllis Stone" wrote in message
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My rescued dachshund is about 8 yrs. old. I cook all of his food. I boil
chicken thighs, take the fat from the broth and cook brown rice, oatmeal,
carrots, barley, and greenbeans. I sauté some ground turkey and add it
all together. He had some health issues when we got him, heart worm and
bladder infections. He seems very healthy now, after 4 yrs. He can have a
small amount of beef but has stomach problems if he has too much. I am
mostly a lurker but I need some advice. He isn't all that eager to eat his
food. Maybe he is tired of the same thing each day. I was thinking of
giving him some canned dog food. He always has Pet's Pride dry food in his
dish and eats a little from time to time. Keeping in mind his very
limited dietary options, what would be a good brand of canned food to give
him? I would appreciate any help.


I give Kiba a couple of tablespoons of Tripett tinned tripe daily, as a
supplement to his kibble. It comes in three or four flavours, and is gently
processed. It keeps his coat in wonderful condition, and while the smell of
it is totally awful to me, dogs seem to adore it. Here's the link to their
website: http://www.tripett.com/
--
Phyrie
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Old October 3rd 08, 03:13 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Phyllis Stone" wrote in message
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My rescued dachshund is about 8 yrs. old. I cook all of his food. I boil
chicken thighs, take the fat from the broth and cook brown rice, oatmeal,
carrots, barley, and greenbeans. I sauté some ground turkey and add it
all together.


Wow! Way more work than I can put in . Personally I'd be looking for
something commercial that could fill his dietary needs, but that that's just
me. Good on you for putting all that work in to it! It sounds like you've
got a fairly good mix in there. May I ask, how consistent you are with what
you give him? I'm wondering if he's maybe a bit 'spoilt' and looking for his
favorite pieces of the food which might be absent.

He isn't all that eager to eat his food.


Is this a new thing? Or has it been developing for some time? Is he always
like this? Or does he sometimes dive right in? Do you have his food down all
the time? Or do you have set meal times? I read below that he always has dry
food available (I'm unfamiliar with that brand... don't think its available
here).

My first thought would be to rule out anything medical. Inappetance (not
eating enough) can be a symptom of a bigger problem.
How's his weight? Is he loosing? Gaining? Stable?

My second thought would be to establish if this is really a problem or not.
If he's otherwise happy, and not loosing (or gaining) weight, I would tend
to see it as not much of a problem. I know my cat had issues where he
decided he didn't seem to like a particular food. He caused no end of
trouble with us constantly switching things up. When we put him on a
rationed amount (appropriate for his weight), all the problems went away. My
feeling is, he was probably been fed several times a day by different people
in the house, so while he was eating, his food dish never really went down.
A similar problem might result is he's simply getting more food than he
needs. He's not too interested in eating, because food isn't an issue for
him. Its always around, so he eats it when he feels like it.

Maybe he is tired of the same thing each day. I was thinking of giving him
some canned dog food. He always has Pet's Pride dry food in his dish and
eats a little from time to time. Keeping in mind his very limited dietary
options, what would be a good brand of canned food to give him? I would
appreciate any help.


There are a number of commercially available canned dog foods designed for
pets with sensitive stomachs or restricted diets. Your vet probably has
some, exactly which they have will depend on where you are, and what they
like. (my own vets stock Medi-cal products, as well as Royal Canin,
Eukanuba, and Hills... I'm pretty sure most of those brands have a
veterinary formulation for sensitive stomachs).

Dale

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Old October 6th 08, 03:36 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Dale Atkin" wrote in message
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There are a number of commercially available canned dog foods designed for
pets with sensitive stomachs or restricted diets. Your vet probably has
some, exactly which they have will depend on where you are, and what they
like. (my own vets stock Medi-cal products, as well as Royal Canin,
Eukanuba, and Hills... I'm pretty sure most of those brands have a
veterinary formulation for sensitive stomachs).

Dale



When we first got him he was on Hills from the vet. He got to where he
always refused it. Right after that the china pet food caper happened and I
believe hills was on the list. I decided to always cook his food as I had a
cat who died of kidney failure. The Pet Promise we get from a health food
store. He is back to eating again so it could have been one of those dog
things. He is very very spoiled, I have tried to make up for his earlier
neglect and life on the streets. We once had a dog who had severe skin
problems and I always wondered if it was the dog food.


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Old October 6th 08, 03:45 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Phyllis Stone wrote:
When we first got him he was on Hills from the vet. He got to where he
always refused it. Right after that the china pet food caper happened and I
believe hills was on the list. I decided to always cook his food as I had a
cat who died of kidney failure.


Very broadly, there are two things you need to look at with
dog food, 1) nutrition, and 2) ingredients. I tend to think
that pet dog owners tend to pay attention to the second but
not as much to the first. When you're preparing your dog's
diet, are you paying attention to nutrition (macronutrients
and micronutrients)?

He is very very spoiled, I have tried to make up for his earlier
neglect and life on the streets.


I tend to think we create many of our own problems with our
dogs, including fussy eating habits.

We once had a dog who had severe skin
problems and I always wondered if it was the dog food.


Could be. Maybe, maybe not.
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Old October 7th 08, 05:05 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Phyllis Stone" wrote in message
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"Dale Atkin" wrote in message
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There are a number of commercially available canned dog foods designed
for pets with sensitive stomachs or restricted diets. Your vet probably
has some, exactly which they have will depend on where you are, and what
they like. (my own vets stock Medi-cal products, as well as Royal Canin,
Eukanuba, and Hills... I'm pretty sure most of those brands have a
veterinary formulation for sensitive stomachs).

Dale



When we first got him he was on Hills from the vet. He got to where he
always refused it. Right after that the china pet food caper happened and
I believe hills was on the list.


IIRC, there was one specific formulation, that wasn't very popular, but used
for a very specific ailment (I don't know for certain which one). There's a
big long company line about how it happened, which I won't bore you with,
but suffice to say, I think they've learned their lesson. Now if you go to
any talks from Hills, they talk about how 97% of their diets are
manufactured 'in-house' and how when they have to manufacture something 'out
of house' they make sure all the quality controls are the same, and that
they supply the ingredients.

I decided to always cook his food as I had a cat who died of kidney
failure. The Pet Promise we get from a health food store.


What do you know about 'Pet Promise' (I know nothing about it). Who makes
it? Who decides what goes in to it? How do they decide? Personally I'm a
little leery of 'small market' foods (I don't know if "Pet Promise" falls in
this category), as you don't know if the person making it up just threw
together a bunch of things in a pot and hoped it was nutritionally complete
and balanced, or if they actually knew what they were doing.

My own rule of thumb, is if the dog is doing well on it, then don't mess
with it, but you have to decide what 'doing well' means, and stick to it.
For me, it means stable weight, no GI signs, healthy skin and coat.

He is back to eating again so it could have been one of those dog things.


I really would consider putting him on a rationed diet. You can make the
ration what ever you like, but you should have a very good idea of exactly
how much of what he is eating every day. That way when the amount goes up or
down, you'll know about it. I don't free feed personally, but then again, I
have two labs, and I think they'd explode before they quit eating. How is
his weight? Loosing? Gaining? Stable?

He is very very spoiled, I have tried to make up for his earlier neglect
and life on the streets.


Just remember all the bad stuff that comes with being overweight, including
all the nasty health issues and shorter life (I don't know if he is
overweight or not, but if he is... think about it).

We once had a dog who had severe skin problems and I always wondered if it
was the dog food.


Possible... did you ever adjust his diet? Or see a vet about it? Lots of
potential problems, no way to know for sure at this stage.

Dale

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Old October 7th 08, 07:55 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Dale Atkin" wrote in message
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What do you know about 'Pet Promise' (I know nothing about it). Who makes
it? Who decides what goes in to it? How do they decide? Personally I'm a
little leery of 'small market' foods (I don't know if "Pet Promise" falls
in this category), as you don't know if the person making it up just threw
together a bunch of things in a pot and hoped it was nutritionally
complete and balanced, or if they actually knew what they were doing.


It was during the pet food scare and I read about Pet Promise on a
newsgroup. It was probably a dog group. Everyone was talking about what they
fed their pets and I was feeding wet and dry Hills. I googled PP and it
seemed safe. They promise no byproducts. Zip ( he came with the name) Had
had heart worm and urinary tract infections. I always feed him the same
amount and it always contains the same ingredients. Sometimes I add an egg
or cottage cheese. He could lose a pound or two. He is not a very active
dog but we do go for a walk everyday and play fetch. The dog with skin
problems was sad beyond belief. He was my son's and he came to live with us.
I fed him alpo or something like that. He was a mixed breed with long hair.
He itched and would tear at his skin. I did everything the vet told me but
he really never got much better. Finally it was cortisone shots every few
weeks. He was a sweet dog and I wish I could have helped him more. Looking
back I really believe he would have done so much better had I prepared his
food.


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Old October 19th 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.religion.kibology,rec.pets.dogs.health,alt.med.veterinary
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I just today fed my fifty pound mixed breed dog a 3/4 pound loin steak, raw.
The steak cost $6.07. That is basically his meal for the day. Mike.
PS he ate every scrap of it, including the bone.
"Delusional_Dimensions_Recovery_DDR"
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"Phyllis Stone" wrote in message
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snip dale's lies idiocy and insanity

It was during the pet food scare and I read about Pet Promise
on a newsgroup. It was probably a dog group. Everyone was talking about
what they fed their pets and I was feeding wet
and dry Hills. I googled PP and it seemed safe. They promise
no byproducts.


Texas lab finds pain medicine in pet food
By Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW

"A still-unmeasured amount of acetaminophen and cyanuric
acid were found in cat food submitted by Don Earl, 52, of
Port Townsend, Wash., whose 6-year-old cat, Chuckles, died
in January.

He said he was suspicious of two flavors of Chuckles' Pet Pride
food because his other two cats refused to eat it and because
Chuckles, strictly an indoor girl, had been healthy."

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Old October 20th 08, 07:45 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.religion.kibology,rec.pets.dogs.health,alt.med.veterinary
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On Oct 20, 8:01 am,
"Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Rese arch_Laboratory"
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IDIOT {}: ~ (


Unhelpful, arrogant, and abrasive as usual.

"mike d." wrote in message

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I just today fed my fifty pound mixed breed dog a 3/4 pound loin steak,
raw. The steak cost $6.07. That is basically his meal for the day. Mike.
PS he ate every scrap of it, including the bone.


Mike, if you're gonna buy dog food from a butcher, next time save
some money and buy heart, liver, kidneys, lungs and lights. Organ
meats are better for your dog than muscle meat and is what wild dogs
and wolves eat first from their kills. But yeah, give him _unsawed_
bones. Most butchers will give them to you free if you mention they're
for your dog.

Oh, go easy on the liver and kidneys; they're the prey's natural
toxin filters and thus contain stuff your dog shouldn't be eating lots
of, but they're okay for treats.


Dr. HotSalt
 




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