diddy none spoke these words of wisdom in
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Nessa spoke these words of wisdom in
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On Oct 23, 10:19*am, diddy none wrote:
Nessa spoke these words of wisdom in
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I don't get how someone can take a dog to the vet and not have them
on lead.

I also don't get how someone can let their dog sniff at or approach
your dog BEFORE asking if you mind.

I have taken my dog to the vet without leash or collar many times.
They
n
ever
wear any collar at home. I always keep a leash/collar in the vehicle
at
a
ll
times. *(unless I happen to clean out the car) and invariably, the
dogs
hop
into the car to go to the vet. i take for granted the leash/collar is
in there, and when we arrive, it's not. It happens. But i ask them at
the
de
sk
for a rope. They always oblige

diddy,

I *wish* I could keep my dogs off lead. Hannah's recall and her stay
are pretty good BUT our area is not safe.

I live ON A 5 lane road... my backyard backs this five lane road. My
vet is about 3 miles down this road. It takes me 15 minutes to DRIVE
to the vet 3 miles away.

aside from the 5 lane road (full of trucks and speeding cars) we have
those young urban youths who think a pitbull on a prong collar is the
height of fashion... either that or some yappy untrained Chihuahua
spinning at the end of a thin designer lead....

oh and then there's my next door neighbor who would kill my dogs if he
thought he could get away with it.


nessa



My dog's leads are rediculously thin, and their collars look like very
fine jewelry, more like a thin silver necklace than a collar.
As far as urban youths with pitbulls on prong collars? They are on a
leash and collar. Good enough for me. As long as my dog isn't looking
like lunch meat to them, everything is hunky dory

But as soon as a dog comes hurtling out of control at my dog, I protect
my dog, and that dog is dead.

Period.
sorry about the sorry assed irresponsible owner.


Lets say my both my dogs collars and leads would fit in a small change
purse at the same time. i don't feel at all worried about their safety. I
never fear they will break them. Is this irresponsible in your book too?

"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..

Lets say my both my dogs collars and leads would fit in a small change
purse at the same time. i don't feel at all worried about their
safety. I
never fear they will break them. Is this irresponsible in your book
too?

Your dogs are under control, right? That would go a long way toward
reassuring others in the waiting room. And, you said that when you
forget a leash, you ask the office for one. That dosen't sound
irresponsible to me. (I think an argument might be able to be made for
it setting a bad precedent with idiots whose dogs are not under control
and who think that leashes are for weenies, but that's another subject
entirely!)

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On Oct 23, 10:47*am, "Shelly" wrote:
"diddy" none wrote in message

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Lets say my both my dogs collars and leads would fit in a small change
purse at the same time. i don't feel at all worried about their
safety. *I
never fear they will break them. Is this irresponsible in your book
too?

Your dogs are under control, right? *That would go a long way toward
reassuring others in the waiting room. *And, you said that when you
forget a leash, you ask the office for one. *That dosen't sound
irresponsible to me. *(I think an argument might be able to be made for
it setting a bad precedent with idiots whose dogs are not under control
and who think that leashes are for weenies, but that's another subject
entirely!)

--
Shellyhttp://www.cat-sidh.net(the Mother Ship)http://esther.cat-sidh.net(Letters to Esther)


I think that's the problem.

clearly Diddy has good control over the animals and others think
because she can do it (and have NO CLUE as to the amount of effort and
time takes) that they can do it to.

it's like setting an example for my children. I don't drink, smoke or
cuss in front of them..... doesnt' mean I don't do it when they can't
see me.

"Shelly" spoke these words of wisdom in news:gdq2qi
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"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..

Lets say my both my dogs collars and leads would fit in a small change
purse at the same time. i don't feel at all worried about their
safety. I
never fear they will break them. Is this irresponsible in your book
too?

Your dogs are under control, right? That would go a long way toward
reassuring others in the waiting room. And, you said that when you
forget a leash, you ask the office for one. That dosen't sound
irresponsible to me. (I think an argument might be able to be made for
it setting a bad precedent with idiots whose dogs are not under control
and who think that leashes are for weenies, but that's another subject
entirely!)

My dogs don't leave the car until i go to the office and request a leash.
Taking them IN the office off leash would be just plain RUDE.

Besides, having them off my property and not in control would also be
illegal.

i know any offleash dog attacking my dog is going to be shot. No questions
asked. I'm not going to allow my dogs to get into a situation where anyone
might be percieved as threatened.
I have met some people who WERE frightened of my dogs. Even though I
couldn't comprehend why, I respect their differences. And I'm not ever
going to put my dogs in a situation where intepretation of threat may put
them in jeopardy.

"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..

My dogs don't leave the car until i go to the office and request a
leash.
Taking them IN the office off leash would be just plain RUDE.

Thank you! And, if nothing else, every vet office I've been in has had
a "please leash your dogs" sign. Common sense aside, it's definitely
rude not to abide by their wishes if there is such a sign.

Besides, having them off my property and not in control would also be
illegal.

In most places, yes, but there are municipalities that allow for voice
control.

I have met some people who WERE frightened of my dogs. Even though I
couldn't comprehend why, I respect their differences.

You never know what their past experiences have been. It likely has
nothing to do with you or your dogs and everything to do with something
that happened or even a dog phobia. About all you can do in those cases
is make sure your dogs don't make the situation worse.

And I'm not ever
going to put my dogs in a situation where intepretation of threat may
put
them in jeopardy.

That's part of being responsible.

I admit that I was concerned about the WGSD in the vet's office. I
don't know that dog, and from what I could see, he wasn't responding
well to voice or hand signals from his owner. From his location,
stance, and behavior, I had reason to suspect that he might be unsafe to
approach. Fine by me, but I had to approach him, and I had to do it
with a dog who was on high-alert and not likely to take any sort of
nonsense from him. If he stuck his nose in her business, she would have
snarked. If he snarked back, I had no reason to think his owner could
have controlled him.

Everyting turned out fine, but I wasn't happy about the other owner's
rudeness and irresponsibility.

(FWIW, I don't see anything that would make me think your handling is
either rude or irresponsible, and I'd be very surprised if I ever did.)

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

well because you are a responsible and adult dog owner.

thank you!

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:39:01 -0500, diddy none wrote:
My dogs don't leave the car until i go to the office and request a leash.
Taking them IN the office off leash would be just plain RUDE.

Besides, having them off my property and not in control would also be
illegal.




Best Wishes,

Nessa
----
Dog Mom to:
Hannah age 6.5 Pitador rescued age 9 weeks
Harley age 10 months Landseer Newfoundland
(Angel) Bagel went to Rainbow Bridge 9/18/08 my Newfandstuff age 8.5

"Suja" wrote in message
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Umm... no, thanks! If your dog is an unknown commodity, don't bring
them
some place with a zillion other dogs to test it out. I don't know why
it is
that the people with the least amount of control over their dogs are
the
most likely to pull something like this.

I didn't mean the out of control dog. I mean for dogs who are clearly
sociable and whose owners want to let them schmooze. There are places
where that's acceptable, but I don't think the vet's office is one of
them.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Suja" wrote in message
...

Our vet's office won't even let me put the dogs in a down-stay and
take my
hands off their leash when I'm signing the CC slip. Even when there
are no
other dogs, cats or people around. I can understand why, since they
don't
know my dogs as well as I do, and clearly have no idea how likely they
are
to hold that stay.

I've never been told to hang onto the leash, but I've never let go of
it, either. I'm only dealing with one dog, so I just write one-handed.
I noticed yesterday, though, that the new vet has a clip thingy mounted
on the wall next to the pay counter, just for attaching leashes to.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

"Shelly" wrote in message:

If they want to socialize their dog, take him to the dog park.

Umm... no, thanks! If your dog is an unknown commodity, don't bring them
some place with a zillion other dogs to test it out. I don't know why it is
that the people with the least amount of control over their dogs are the
most likely to pull something like this.

Suja

"Shelly" wrote in message:

Thank you! And, if nothing else, every vet office I've been in has had
a "please leash your dogs" sign. Common sense aside, it's definitely
rude not to abide by their wishes if there is such a sign.

Our vet's office won't even let me put the dogs in a down-stay and take my
hands off their leash when I'm signing the CC slip. Even when there are no
other dogs, cats or people around. I can understand why, since they don't
know my dogs as well as I do, and clearly have no idea how likely they are
to hold that stay.

Suja