I have a vinyl-coated steel cable tether that is anchored out back, and I
use it to let Muttley out when I can't go out with him. I've used it for a
couple of years, and there was one spot that had become frayed, and I
covered it with tape.

Today, I let him out for a little while, in the snow. Then later I heard
him barking to come in, as he usually does. But when he came in, I saw that
part of the tether was attached to his collar, and the rest of it was on
the ground. It had broken while he was out there. I don't know if he knew
he was free, or if he went any further than his usual limits, but he was
happy to come back in. I was able to repair the cable with a clamp, but a
new one is in order.

Paul and Muttley

"Paul E. Schoen" spoke these words of wisdom in
:

I have a vinyl-coated steel cable tether that is anchored out back, and
I use it to let Muttley out when I can't go out with him. I've used it
for a couple of years, and there was one spot that had become frayed,
and I covered it with tape.

Today, I let him out for a little while, in the snow. Then later I heard
him barking to come in, as he usually does. But when he came in, I saw
that part of the tether was attached to his collar, and the rest of it
was on the ground. It had broken while he was out there. I don't know if
he knew he was free, or if he went any further than his usual limits,
but he was happy to come back in. I was able to repair the cable with a
clamp, but a new one is in order.

Paul and Muttley




I thought you built him a fence. So why the tether?

"diddy" none wrote in message
.. .
"Paul E. Schoen" spoke these words of wisdom in
:

I have a vinyl-coated steel cable tether that is anchored out back, and
I use it to let Muttley out when I can't go out with him. I've used it
for a couple of years, and there was one spot that had become frayed,
and I covered it with tape.

Today, I let him out for a little while, in the snow. Then later I heard
him barking to come in, as he usually does. But when he came in, I saw
that part of the tether was attached to his collar, and the rest of it
was on the ground. It had broken while he was out there. I don't know if
he knew he was free, or if he went any further than his usual limits,
but he was happy to come back in. I was able to repair the cable with a
clamp, but a new one is in order.

Paul and Muttley




I thought you built him a fence. So why the tether?

There is no way to put a fence in the back of the house, as it is built
into a hill. The fenced area I built is on top of the hill, about 30 feet
up and accessible only by a steep path or a road at the other end of the
property. My back has been giving me problems lately and it is difficult
walking for much distance, so the most I can manage is to take him on a
daily walk out front along the road. He often wants to go out back, where
I'm sure he hears various animals prowling around. He runs back and forth
barking and looks up the hill where they probably run back to their homes
in the woods.

The tether has worked well for a long time. Sometimes he gets wrapped
around a post, and he seems confused about how to navigate around it the
other way to get free to come back in. I'll probably have to get rid of
that. There is also a partially finished porch where he can either jump
through a window or go through an open doorway, which also sometimes gets
him tangled up. But he seems to be able to figure that out, although
sometimes he needs a little coaching. I tell him to jump through the window
and come around, and he seems happy to be able to get back in.

Paul and Muttley

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:27:24 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen"
wrote:

I have a vinyl-coated steel cable tether that is anchored out back, and I
use it to let Muttley out when I can't go out with him. I've used it for a
couple of years, and there was one spot that had become frayed, and I
covered it with tape.

Today, I let him out for a little while, in the snow. Then later I heard
him barking to come in, as he usually does. But when he came in, I saw that
part of the tether was attached to his collar, and the rest of it was on
the ground. It had broken while he was out there. I don't know if he knew
he was free, or if he went any further than his usual limits, but he was
happy to come back in. I was able to repair the cable with a clamp, but a
new one is in order.

Paul and Muttley



how often and how long do you tether him unsupervised?


I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.

Before I had the fence built, if I was really sick and they had to go
out, I stood in the doorway and let them go out on the 25 foot
training lead.




Best Wishes,

Nessa
----
Dog Mom to:
Hannah age 6.5 Pitador rescued age 9 weeks
Harley age 10 months Landseer Newfoundland
(Angel) Bagel went to Rainbow Bridge 9/18/08 my Newfandstuff age 8.5

In article ,
Nessa wrote:
I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.

Paul needs stories to post here to get attention from folks
like you, so I think he deliberately puts his dog in harm's
way. It's all about the attention, and when you give it to
him it's payoff for hurting his dog, so I'd think twice
about responding.

But on to more important things: I got back yesterday
afternoon from a week in Minne-no-freakin'-snow-ta, which
was otherwise lovely. As we landed the pilot announced
"Welcome to Tompkins County Regional Airport, where the
outside temperature is 16 degrees and it's snowing" and the
passengers burst into applause. I didn't expect snow this
week so the sled and skis and proper winter paraphenalia are
all still in storage, which I'll remedy this afternoon.

I picked the dogs up this morning and tried out the video
camera on my new Blackberry, posted he
http://mlshore.posterous.com/back-from-the-kennel (Posterous
makes it easy to submit "posts" from phones). The video
itself is about of the quality you might expect from a
telephone, but those are my dogs in it and that's what
counts. Those are Crow, Jack, and Slick try to get the last
pee in, Jack vocalizing, and Eclipse, Jack, Crow, and Slick
barrelling straight at poor Saber, who was just trying to
relax.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 22 Nov 2008 12:10:53 -0500, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Nessa wrote:
I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.

Paul needs stories to post here to get attention from folks
like you, so I think he deliberately puts his dog in harm's
way. It's all about the attention, and when you give it to
him it's payoff for hurting his dog, so I'd think twice
about responding.


ah I hear that.... so it's like munchausen only with the poor dog..
how sad is that... I'll ignore from now on. not so much traffic on
Usenet that newbies will think it ok behavior.


But on to more important things: I got back yesterday
afternoon from a week in Minne-no-freakin'-snow-ta, which
was otherwise lovely. As we landed the pilot announced
"Welcome to Tompkins County Regional Airport, where the
outside temperature is 16 degrees and it's snowing" and the
passengers burst into applause. I didn't expect snow this
week so the sled and skis and proper winter paraphenalia are
all still in storage, which I'll remedy this afternoon.

I picked the dogs up this morning and tried out the video
camera on my new Blackberry, posted he
http://mlshore.posterous.com/back-from-the-kennel (Posterous
makes it easy to submit "posts" from phones). The video
itself is about of the quality you might expect from a
telephone, but those are my dogs in it and that's what
counts. Those are Crow, Jack, and Slick try to get the last
pee in, Jack vocalizing, and Eclipse, Jack, Crow, and Slick
barrelling straight at poor Saber, who was just trying to
relax.


OMG Melinda your dogs are gorgeous!
Best Wishes,

Nessa
----
Dog Mom to:
Hannah age 6.5 Pitador rescued age 9 weeks
Harley age 10 months Landseer Newfoundland
(Angel) Bagel went to Rainbow Bridge 9/18/08 my Newfandstuff age 8.5

"Nessa" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:27:24 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen"
wrote:

I have a vinyl-coated steel cable tether that is anchored out back, and I
use it to let Muttley out when I can't go out with him. I've used it for
a
couple of years, and there was one spot that had become frayed, and I
covered it with tape.

Today, I let him out for a little while, in the snow. Then later I heard
him barking to come in, as he usually does. But when he came in, I saw
that
part of the tether was attached to his collar, and the rest of it was on
the ground. It had broken while he was out there. I don't know if he knew
he was free, or if he went any further than his usual limits, but he was
happy to come back in. I was able to repair the cable with a clamp, but a
new one is in order.

Paul and Muttley



how often and how long do you tether him unsupervised?


I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.

Before I had the fence built, if I was really sick and they had to go
out, I stood in the doorway and let them go out on the 25 foot
training lead.

I let him out several times a day when I am at home. Sometimes he is only
out long enough to do his business and then a few minutes later he comes
in. Other times he will just lay in the sun and he might be there for an
hour or two, but I am there to hear him bark if he wants to come back in.

When I first got him in February 1996, and until about July of that year, I
did not trust him in the house, and I would leave him tethered for
sometimes 8-10 hours while I was away at work or elsewhere. And at that
time he was on a choker chain collar, so that was definitely a problem. He
usually spent the night with me in the bedroom, but I could not allow him
to have free run of the house because he would pee in various areas and he
would chase my cat.

I was actively seeking another home for him at that time and I was keeping
him in the best way I knew, but of course now I know better. It was
certainly preferable to being put down, and eventually we bonded and he
became reliable in the house. He certainly preferred being with me, as he
got loose a couple of times, and always returned to the house or allowed me
to get him and clip his leash back on.

At least now I have a limited slip flat nylon collar that holds him
securely and won't cause damage to his neck. He is well cared for and
healthy and happy, and he has been very good about meeting new people. I'm
getting some major work done on my house and I've had all sorts of
contractors out here, and Muttley has been OK with them once they are
properly introduced.

Paul and Muttley

The video isn't all that bad considering it's from your phone. I love
seeing your dogs of course then I'm partial to huskys.

Celeste

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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Nessa wrote:
I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.

Paul needs stories to post here to get attention from folks
like you, so I think he deliberately puts his dog in harm's
way. It's all about the attention, and when you give it to
him it's payoff for hurting his dog, so I'd think twice
about responding.

But on to more important things: I got back yesterday
afternoon from a week in Minne-no-freakin'-snow-ta, which
was otherwise lovely. As we landed the pilot announced
"Welcome to Tompkins County Regional Airport, where the
outside temperature is 16 degrees and it's snowing" and the
passengers burst into applause. I didn't expect snow this
week so the sled and skis and proper winter paraphenalia are
all still in storage, which I'll remedy this afternoon.

I picked the dogs up this morning and tried out the video
camera on my new Blackberry, posted he
http://mlshore.posterous.com/back-from-the-kennel (Posterous
makes it easy to submit "posts" from phones). The video
itself is about of the quality you might expect from a
telephone, but those are my dogs in it and that's what
counts. Those are Crow, Jack, and Slick try to get the last
pee in, Jack vocalizing, and Eclipse, Jack, Crow, and Slick
barrelling straight at poor Saber, who was just trying to
relax.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Resea rch_Laboratory wrote:
HOWEDY malinda you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case,

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Nessa wrote:
I personally would be afraid my dogs would be hurt that way.
Paul needs stories to post here to get attention from folks
like you, so I think he deliberately puts his dog in harm's
way. It's all about the attention, and when you give it to
him it's payoff for hurting his dog, so I'd think twice
about responding.

SNIP BULLSHIT

Here's what happens when a TOURIST observes malinda
driving her HIGHLY TRAINED competitioin sled dog team:

From: (Melinda Shore)
Date: 25 Nov 2007 10:09:41 -0500

Subject: prong collar caution

In article Vu92j.7651$r81.6487@trndny05,
filly wrote:

Don't you love it when the dogs do everything
right and someone is actuallywatching!

Well, it's going to take a lot of doing everything right and
frankly a lot of training to make up for early last week,
where someone was walking her Australian Shepherd
cross along the road as we came up the section of trail that
paralleled it. My dogs went nuts, pulling towards them and
barking their heads off (and they rarely bark). Ideally I'd
be able to park the rig and pull the dogs around, but even
though I had the brakes locked on the rig they were still
pulling it. So, I knew that if I got off the dogs would
take off after her.

I dropped the snow hook, which I've been using as a ground
brake, but it landed prong-side up and that only compounded
the problem because as the dogs were pulling us forward the
snow hook was coming under the rig and the prongs were
inching towards the tires, which would have been shredded
(snow hooks:
http://www.nooksackracing.com/dog_sl...es_hooks.html).

This poor woman was clearly trying to pretend that a team
of four dogs wasn't barking their heads off at her, trying to
pretend that they weren't trying to come over for a visit,
trying to pretend it was just a normal walk down the road.
And in the meantime my dogs effectively got away with really
bad behavior.

So, a friend is coming over today to be an attractive
nuisance on the trails while we work on "on by," and yes,
I was pleasantly surprised when the dogs didn't try to go
visit Tom, standing in the hedgerow.

And this woman is a dog trainer? Kidding, right?

-- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community BWEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! Here's a other dose of malinda's REALITY: From: (Melinda Shore) Date: 22 Nov 2007 07:21:04 -0500 Subject: prong collar caution In article , Janet Boss wrote:
and here's a photo of the collar that I received in the mail, next to a
brand new collar (which I have sold HUNDREDS of w/out incident):
http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ingPuppyWizard

"Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
stern correction" --Janet Boss
http://tinyurl.com/5m6ppt

I really don't think that you have any reason whatsoever to
feel as if you've got to defend yourself against a dysfunctional
lunatic who can't let go of even the tiniest stuff.

I can't believe he's still whining about that stupid collar.

Here's hoping for a great Thanksgiving for the Americans
here. My mother is usually pretty precise in her language
but when we were talking about Thanksgiving plans the other
day she said "We have a lot to be thankful for, even though
we're Canadian." Sometimes despite your best efforts stuff
just comes out wrong.
-- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community LIKE THIS: Here's REALITY malinda. You and your lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long term incurable mental case pals CAN'T POST HERE abHOWETS nodoGdameneDMOO "J1Boss" wrote in message ... He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye. Janet Boss "sionnach" wrote in message ...
"J1Boss" wrote in message
...
I can't imagine needing anything higher
than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Oh that's sick! Forcing a dog to obey by using pain?



On 6 Feb 2006 17:41:08 GMT, Mary Healey
,
clicked their heels and said:

Does that include tone of voice? Some tools are easier
to ban than others.

yes - screaming banshees are told to shut up! And I
always have to remind spouses that they may NOT do the
"honey - you're supposed to be doing it like THIS"......
--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote

It is a shame that Muttley will probably be put
down (his appointment is next Wednesday),

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote

Hello everyone:

If you have followed some of my posts, you know
something about the ongoing story of Muttley, the
large GSD/Chow dog I have been trying to adopt
or place in a better home.

I will add a bit more history later in this post.

Last Tuesday, toward the end of Janet's obedience
class, Muttley and I had just finished fairly successfully
performing a sit/stay/come routine, and then he was
sitting by my side.

The final routine was to be a "down", which Muttley
has had some difficulty with, and frankly I have not
had the time to work with him much on that.

I was kneeling at his side, trying to hold his collar
while pushing his front legs down to the position,
while he resisted. Suddenly he lunged, knocking
me over onto the parking lot, and I lost grip of the
leash as I reflexively broke my fall.

Muttley took the opportunity to attack a young black
male Lab to my left, and it was a very brutal attack.
Janet and the instructors tried to gain control, and as
soon as I could get to my feet I grabbed the leash and
pulled him off.

That was the end of the class, and the other dog,
Bernie, was taken to an animal hospital for treatment.

When everyone had left, Janet counseled me about
what should be done about Muttley.

She said this was more than ordinary aggression,
and only intensive (and expensive) one on one
training would have any chance at working, and
in any case, he was not suited to group training.

She advised me that Muttley could be dangerous,
and she recommended that he be euthanized.

"They can't all be saved".

Sounds like vaccine damage. I noted that she *requires* that the dogs in
her classes are fully jabbed. And then she wonders why!

I had a dog that was aggressive to other dogs. Instead of killing her I
stopped giving her vaccinations and the aggression slowly went away.

I will never vaccinate a pet or myself again.

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:


Sounds like vaccine damage. I noted that she *requires* that the dogs in
her classes are fully jabbed. And then she wonders why!

GFY. I require RABIES VACCINATION. That is the LAW.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com