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Old November 23rd 08, 07:00 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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HOW A DOG THINKS

Here is my view on human and animal intelligence, via which I have
managed to teach my pets to read and to conversate intelligently in
gesture language and bird song.

The base of human and animal intelligence is the same: natural healthy
life in a nature environment. That trains especially the sense of
sight and spatial intelligence (i.e. not getting lost in the forest)
which are very important in thinking for the organization of the
memories of experiencies. Here is where dogs often go ashtray: they
tend to organize their memory via the sense of smell which is so
dominant for them and so fail to reach real objectivity. But if
properly taught, they too can learn from your example: as the dog does
someting, for example chews a bone, show the dog that you keep your
eyes well open: "Oh, here it tastes like this, and there near by it is
somewhat softer and easier to chew,..." So the dog does not need to
change to non-dog like being. No, it is enough if it just experiences
strongly while keeping eyes open too. For objective intelligence you
do not need to distance yourself from any of your experiencies. It is
enough that you know where you can experience what.
Once you have a good picture of the world, you are done with thinking.
After that you only need to act according to your best understanding.
Your feelings tell you what you ought to do in each situation if you
use a holistic view of the world as a base for feelings. Then you do
not follow only one feeling after another bouncing mindlessly about,
but react wisely to all things at the same time, with their
importancies and relationships taken right into account. So feelings
and atmospheres are very important for understanding what the things
in your picture of the world mean to life, to the lives of us all. An
atmosphere is a landscape of things with feelings connected to it
telling about what those phenomena mean to life: "There is a huge
scary storm cloud over there!" and also: "Cars are nice but the
pollution problem needs to be cured and all accidents avoided - drive
carefully! Buy ecobensin..."
That was the thinking part: the senses forming a good picture of the
world where you can make further observations about how things are -
animals too have that ability! At least my pets have. But what differs
is the social situation and the level of education of animals and
humans. Animals are amazingly ignorant of all kinds of things that we
humans learn across the years. While we humans are amazingly naive
about the use of force against animals: as if a dog would not know
that humans kill dogs who bite as adults, or that we weight at least
two to ten times as much as our dear pets and do use physical force
against them instead of superb intelligence like we believe. And we
have hands, all kinds of factory made tools without which we cannot
survive. My two budgerigar birds figured out the principles of mass
production by inspecting their cage which was so evenly build that it
must be built by the help of machines doing repetitious tasks. It was
a kind of ´"Oh!" for them and made them understand more of the human
world. At the same time they gained my respect. They also ask
difficult questions like "Why is 3x4 + 4 the same as 4x3 + 4 ?" They
handle complicated thoughts so easily that the results may seem to
cumbersome but they aren't at all for the birds! Also my dog prefers
tasks like "Sit twice and lie down in between." to the ordinary "Sit,
down, sit." My one and a half year old parrot seems to learn to read
English too. Reading Finnsh is simple since it is written exactly the
same way as it is pronounced, but in that too I had to remark to my
parrot that the forms of the letters are arbitrary, when she tried to
think all the way through. I had to say again and again: "Just use
your memory, there is no point to discover, this is the way that
humans do things: by memorizing! Just to be able to connect the sounds
to the corresponding letters and the letters again to the sounds." In
reading English the beginning of the word is often written almost
phonetically, so I recommended for my parrot to guess the ends of the
words which she did. Just yesterday I read aloud some Finnish language
text for my one-year-old dog while the dog watched and read along as I
pointed the words by my finger. It was a Finnish translation of the
first chapter of Taosit classic Tao-Te-Ching where ot says:" Words and
written text are not able to desribe the reality fully enough." or
something of the kind. I referred an example from what I had been
doing with my dog: how sitting alertly and lying down lazily feel
completely different and demand a different state of mind, but still
we humans tend to think about them as if they were just some words in
a dog training manual: sit, down, sit,... The typical human point of
view makes no sense. The dog is wiser. And so my dog understands also
the idea in that first chapter of the classic philosophical text.
Since there is no beginning level for dogs, you can teach them
anything and it is approximately an as big achievement!
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Old November 23rd 08, 11:52 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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HOW A DOG THINKS

Here is my view on human and animal intelligence, via which I have
managed to teach my pets to read and to conversate intelligently in
gesture language and bird song.


Interesting. Can you post any videos etc. of you interacting with your
animals? You have to admit that much of what you've written seems fairly
incredible. Some videos would help it to read less like fiction.

Dale

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Old November 26th 08, 08:23 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Nov 23, 5:52*pm, "Dale Atkin" wrote:
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HOW A DOG THINKS


Here is my view on human and animal intelligence, via which I have
managed to teach my pets to read and to conversate intelligently in
gesture language and bird song.


Interesting. Can you post any videos etc. of you interacting with your
animals? You have to admit that much of what you've written seems fairly
incredible. Some videos would help it to read less like fiction.

Dale


Dale, the guy is seriously insane. Not a joke. He has no videos or
anything else worth reviewing.
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Old November 30th 08, 07:24 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default Dogs think in this way

Interesting. Can you post any videos etc. of you interacting with your
animals? You have to admit that much of what you've written seems fairly
incredible. Some videos would help it to read less like fiction.

Dale


Dale, the guy is seriously insane. Not a joke. He has no videos or
anything else worth reviewing.


Quite possibly. I like to assume people (a) believe what they are saying (b)
have an interest in backing it up. It can be interesting (and sometimes
entertaining) to see what kind of support people offer for their claims.

Dale

 




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