"chardonnay9" wrote in message
m...

Were you feeding her kibble? It causes diabetes quite frequently.

You don't know what kind of diabetes the OP's dog had, not to mention
that there are multiple factors that can contribute to the development
of diabetes (genetic predisposition being a biggie), so I can't imagine
why you'd think it appropriate to imply that the dog's diet was what
caused it.

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"meteore" wrote in message
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I am a senior and not in any rush to get another dog, Since Lhasa
Apsos really only come in small sizes, I was thinking after my wifes
problems are resolved I was thinking of getting a tibetan terrier or
havanese. I am in a appartment and I do not think it is suitable for a
large breed.

I don't have experience with either of the breeds you're interested in,
so I can't give you advice about them. I can say, however, that dogs of
*any* size can and do live very good lives in apartments. If the dog is
well suited to your lifestyle, then that's far more important than the
size of your home.

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Shelly wrote:
"chardonnay9" wrote in message
m...

Were you feeding her kibble? It causes diabetes quite frequently.

You don't know what kind of diabetes the OP's dog had, not to mention
that there are multiple factors that can contribute to the development
of diabetes (genetic predisposition being a biggie), so I can't imagine
why you'd think it appropriate to imply that the dog's diet was what
caused it.


Because it commonly does with Type 2. I'm diabetic so I know about carb
restrictions to keep the sugar readings down.

Carb laden kibble has ruined the health of our pets and this is just one
sign that it's getting worse. The lifespan of our pets has been
plummeting since kibble was forced on our dogs. Sickness has risen as well.

Because carbs are overwhelmingly the problem, raw feeding is the answer.

"chardonnay9" wrote in message
m...

Because it commonly does with Type 2.

No.

I'm diabetic so I know about carb restrictions to keep the sugar
readings down.

Of course. But that doesn't mean that carbs *cause* diabetes.

The lifespan of our pets has been plummeting since kibble was forced
on our dogs.

Everything I've ever read has indicated the exact opposite.

Because carbs are overwhelmingly the problem, raw feeding is the
answer.

Raw diets are magically carb free? IDTS.

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chardonnay9 wrote:
Carb laden kibble has ruined the health of our pets

Wow - you are just an encyclopedia of logical fallacies.
Your favorite may be the ad hominem logical fallacy but it
looks like post hoc ergo propter hoc is what turned you into
a crank in the first place.

Left to their own devices dogs definitely eat carbs.

The lifespan of our pets has been
plummeting since kibble was forced on our dogs.

That's just flat-out wrong. Do you actually have a source
for this?
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In article ,
Shelly wrote:
Of course. But that doesn't mean that carbs *cause* diabetes.

An unhealthy lifestyle causes type 2 diabetes. Carbs are
indirectly implicated because of the link between obesity
and type 2. But it's not carbs themselves that have been
linked, it's obesity. And lack of exercise.

In a situation like that it's easier to blame some external
factor (like, say, oh I dunno - carbs?) than it is to take
personal responsibility for getting one's health under
control. This, along with chard's intellectual limitations,
explains a heck of a lot about her cranky
crankitudisnousness about feeding.
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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An unhealthy lifestyle causes type 2 diabetes. Carbs are
indirectly implicated because of the link between obesity
and type 2. But it's not carbs themselves that have been
linked, it's obesity. And lack of exercise.

Linked, but not necessarily the cause. Genes are thought to play an
even larger part than diet, obesity, and exercise. The problem is that
when you combine crappy genes with obesity, lack of exercise, and poor
diet, you are likely to get diabetes. The best educated guess is that
there is a strong genetic component that's affected by behavioral and
environmental factors.

In a situation like that it's easier to blame some external
factor (like, say, oh I dunno - carbs?) than it is to take
personal responsibility for getting one's health under
control.

An intelligent person will do both. I've got crappy genes when it comes
to diabetes. I don't want to develop it, so I do what I can to stop
that from happening. Even so, I know that a serious illness can tip the
balance, no matter what else I do. It's no excuse to throw up your
hands and be a defeatist, though.

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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
Shelly wrote:
Of course. But that doesn't mean that carbs *cause* diabetes.

An unhealthy lifestyle causes type 2 diabetes. Carbs are
indirectly implicated because of the link between obesity
and type 2. But it's not carbs themselves that have been
linked, it's obesity. And lack of exercise.

Carbs cause obesity! How easy is that!

"chardonnay9" wrote in message
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Carbs cause obesity! How easy is that!

No, they do not. Nor does obesity cause diabetes.

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In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
Carbs cause obesity! How easy is that!

The classics are classic for a reason:
http://www.cartoonbank.com/item/22230
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