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Old December 23rd 08, 03:54 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

I have been reading a lot of negative articles on Iams. I wonder if
that food caused my dog to get sick. I also had negative experiences
with Science Diet the one precribed for senior dogs.

http://www.iamscruelty.com/

What commercial dog foods do you recommend.

Meteore
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Old December 23rd 08, 04:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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In article ,
meteore wrote:
I have been reading a lot of negative articles on Iams. I wonder if
that food caused my dog to get sick.


It's not a great food but I'd be very, very surprised indeed
if it were responsible for your dog's diabetes. You'll note
that the anti-Iams sites tend to focus on the way Iams does
testing and not on the food itself.

I also had negative experiences
with Science Diet the one precribed for senior dogs.


Now there's something that doesn't surprise me. But what do
you mean by "negative experience?"

What commercial dog foods do you recommend.


There's a variety of pretty good feeds out there, and
different dogs do better on different ones. If you've got
access to a locally-owned feed shop run by grownups, go talk
to the people there about your concerns, what you're looking
for, etc. Forget Petsmart, Petco, and the other chain
stores. The people who work there mean well but typically
don't know much about what they're selling.
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Old December 23rd 08, 05:37 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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I also had negative experiences
with Science Diet the one precribed for senior dogs.


Now there's something that doesn't surprise me. *But what do
you mean by "negative experience?"

112 years ago I had two shitzu. One of them got mange and the other had some kind of skin disease, where she lost hair and had bloody messes all over.

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Old December 23rd 08, 05:44 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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I also had negative experiences
with Science Diet the one precribed for senior dogs.



Now there's something that doesn't surprise me. But what do
you mean by "negative experience?"



12 years ago I had two shitzu. One of them got mange and the other had
some kind of skin disease, where she lost hair and had bloody messes
all over.


The vet could do nothing for them.

Prior to the shitzu, I had a lhasa which also contacted some skin
problem. All were on Science diet prescribed for older dogs. I cannot
recall the exact name.


meteore




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Old December 26th 08, 02:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

On Dec 2, 9:29 am, chardonnay9 wrote:
Shelly wrote:
"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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Well! You obviously don't eat properly! Change that and you can get
rid of your diabetes!


If only Chard had eaten a species-appropriate diet of raw meat and
scavenged vegetable matter, s/he would not have developed Teh Di-beetus.
Or something.


http://www.thepaleodiet.com/

The Paleo Diet is a way of eating in the modern age that best mimics the
nutrition of our evolutionary and genetic heritage - the ancestral,
Paleolithic diet. For millions of years our hunter-gatherer ancestors
ate combinations of lean meat, seafood, plants, fruit, and nuts. But
today in America, more than 70% of our dietary calories come from foods
that our Paleolithic (Stone Age) ancestors rarely if ever ate ... and
that modern humans are not genetically adapted to eat. The result is
epidemic levels of cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity,
osteoporosis, arthritis, acne, gastrointestinal disease, and more.

Since I've been restricting carbs I've lost 30 lbs and glucose levels
are now normal most of the time and I've been able to reduce my meds as
well.


So sorry for your loss and that you had to make the decision. Also,
sorry for all the people hijacking your thread. I recently had to put
to sleep my 16.5 yr old miniature poodle.
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Old December 26th 08, 03:17 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

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chardonnay9 wrote:
Since I've been restricting carbs I've lost 30 lbs and glucose levels
are now normal most of the time and I've been able to reduce my meds as
well.


Hey, beet: I've never restricted carbs (I have a t-shirt
that says CHOOSE CARBS, actually) and I've always been thin,
always had low-normal blood pressure, always been fitter
than most. *My* crackpot theory says that if I'd avoided
carbs I'd have ballooned up.

I think anecdotes and uninformed guesses about what's going
on are *way* better than science!
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Old December 26th 08, 03:27 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
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*My* crackpot theory says that if I'd avoided
carbs I'd have ballooned up.


My crackpot theory is that whatever you're doing, ur doin it rite.

I think anecdotes and uninformed guesses about what's going
on are *way* better than science!


I just can't wrap my mind around the chard's gross lack of critical
thinking skills. If your body is diseased, it's not going to act like a
healthy body, so why would you evangelize based on how your diseased
body acts? I mean, I don't doubt that controlling carbs is important to
diabetics. Duh. And I don't doubt that changing her diet and getting
her blood sugar levels under control has resulted in weight loss. But
that does not mean that eliminating carbs from a healthy person's diet
would A) have the same results or B) not be harmful.

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Old December 26th 08, 03:29 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Tracey K" wrote in message
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So sorry for your loss and that you had to make the decision.


I don't think Chard has ever owned a dog, so I'm pretty sure you're
wrong about her having lost one.

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Old December 26th 08, 03:52 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
I just can't wrap my mind around the chard's gross lack of critical
thinking skills.


The both of 'em. They're relying on their own observations
and anecdotes and their mechanism for integrating other
people's observations and anecdotes seems to be to ignore
them completely.
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Old December 26th 08, 04:41 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

Shelly wrote:

I just can't wrap my mind around the chard's gross lack of critical
thinking skills.


I guess you don't have much of a mind then. There was no lack of skills
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