Hello,

I have a 3 1/2 month old puppy that I just acquired and am only
schedule to get her vaccines early next week. The vet warned before
she has contact with other dogs she must be vaccinated, as such I've
avoided dog parks and such, though I still need to take her for walks.
As I live in the city the streets are often very crowded and sometimes
someone will round a corner with a dog unexpectedly, and before I can
pull her away the dogs have a split second of contact. Being a new dog
owner this may be a bit of a naive question, but should I be concerned
about this brief contact?

Thanks in advance
T

wrote:
Hello,

I have a 3 1/2 month old puppy that I just acquired and am only
schedule to get her vaccines early next week. The vet warned before
she has contact with other dogs she must be vaccinated, as such I've
avoided dog parks and such, though I still need to take her for walks.
As I live in the city the streets are often very crowded and sometimes
someone will round a corner with a dog unexpectedly, and before I can
pull her away the dogs have a split second of contact. Being a new dog
owner this may be a bit of a naive question, but should I be concerned
about this brief contact?

Thanks in advance
T

No you shouldn't. Actually, being out like that can boost the immune
system because of the exposure. That's the way dogs developed immunity
way before vaccines came along. Problem is, most vets think just like yours.

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chardonnay9 wrote:
No you shouldn't. Actually, being out like that can boost the immune
system because of the exposure. That's the way dogs developed immunity
way before vaccines came along. Problem is, most vets think just like yours.

Hey, Trevor, this one's a crank. Ignore it. Before
vaccines came along dogs died young from diseases that are
now preventable. She's reaping the benefits of other people
vaccinating their dogs, which prevents epidemics from
developing. That is to say, chardonnay's a moron. If you
take her advice on diet or veterinary care you're increasing
the risks to your dog.

I imagine it's hard to do in a city but I'd minimize
exposure until the pup's vaccinated. Not only is he not
protected from communicable viruses, youngsters also don't
have as robust immune systems as adult dogs.
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wrote:


I have a 3 1/2 month old puppy that I just acquired and am only
schedule to get her vaccines early next week.

Has she not had any yet? Where did she come from?

The vet warned before
she has contact with other dogs she must be vaccinated, as such I've
avoided dog parks and such, though I still need to take her for walks.
As I live in the city the streets are often very crowded and sometimes
someone will round a corner with a dog unexpectedly, and before I can
pull her away the dogs have a split second of contact. Being a new dog
owner this may be a bit of a naive question, but should I be concerned
about this brief contact?

Somewhat. I wouldn't be taking her for walks. Out to potty and back in
at the most (depending on city and circumstances). Once she has a few
rounds of vaccines in her (she'll get 3-4 rounds total generally), you
can expand her life. If you have known safe dogs that you can get
together with in a private yard or home, that would be a good thing.

I mostly hate dog parks because people just don't seem to use common
sense. Even when she's vaccinated, be cautious around adult dogs who
may not like puppies.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Janet Boss wrote:
Once she has a few
rounds of vaccines in her (she'll get 3-4 rounds total generally), you
can expand her life.

Old and highly ignorant information.

Read this:

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/...ineDamage.html

The Purdue studies also found that vaccinated dogs were developing
autoantibodies to their own collagen. About one quarter of all the
protein in the body is collagen. Collagen provides structure to our
bodies, protecting and supporting the softer tissues and connecting them
with the skeleton. It is no wonder that Canine Health Concern's 1997
study of 4,000 dogs showed a high number of dogs developing mobility
problems shortly after they were vaccinated (noted in my 1997 book, What
Vets Don't Tell You About Vaccines).

Perhaps most worryingly, the Purdue studies found that the vaccinated
dogs had developed autoantibodies to their own DNA. Did the alarm bells
sound? Did the scientific community call a halt to the vaccination
program? No. Instead, they stuck their fingers in the air, saying more
research is needed to ascertain whether vaccines can cause genetic
damage. Meanwhile, the study dogs were found good homes, but no
long-term follow-up has been conducted. At around the same time, the
American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Vaccine-Associated Feline
Sarcoma Task Force initiated several studies to find out why 160,000
cats each year in the USA develop terminal cancer at their vaccine
injection sites.(3) The fact that cats can get vaccine-induced cancer
has been acknowledged by veterinary bodies around the world, and even
the British Government acknowledged it through its Working Group charged
with the task of looking into canine and feline vaccines(4) following
pressure from Canine Health Concern. What do you imagine was the advice
of the AVMA Task Force, veterinary bodies and governments? "Carry on
vaccinating until
we find out why vaccines are killing cats, and which cats are most
likely to die."

I got the puppy at the pet store near my home. She has not been to a
vet yet and I am not sure of her exact history. The puppy was sold to
the pet store as the original owner couldn't keep it in their
apartment.

She has only had run ins with maybe four dogs, two of which are known
to be vaccinated and healthy (other people living in my building). The
other close exposure have been a split second 4-6 inches away from
nose to nose with another dog. All other dogs have been several or
more feet away. As a puppy she is VERY energetic during the day. I
work from home so I try to tire her out so I can get some work done by
giving her few short walks daily.

Is there anything I should look out for (in terms of any symptoms of
problems)? The only thing I noticed is she gets hiccups once or twice
a day. If it matters, she is a black lab

Thanks for the replies!

On Dec 4, 10:06 pm, Janet Boss
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wrote:

I have a 3 1/2 month old puppy that I just acquired and am only
schedule to get her vaccines early next week.

Has she not had any yet? Where did she come from?

The vet warned before
she has contact with other dogs she must be vaccinated, as such I've
avoided dog parks and such, though I still need to take her for walks.
As I live in the city the streets are often very crowded and sometimes
someone will round a corner with a dog unexpectedly, and before I can
pull her away the dogs have a split second of contact. Being a new dog
owner this may be a bit of a naive question, but should I be concerned
about this brief contact?

Somewhat. I wouldn't be taking her for walks. Out to potty and back in
at the most (depending on city and circumstances). Once she has a few
rounds of vaccines in her (she'll get 3-4 rounds total generally), you
can expand her life. If you have known safe dogs that you can get
together with in a private yard or home, that would be a good thing.

I mostly hate dog parks because people just don't seem to use common
sense. Even when she's vaccinated, be cautious around adult dogs who
may not like puppies.

--
Janet Bosswww.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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Somewhat. I wouldn't be taking her for walks. Out to potty and back in
at the most (depending on city and circumstances). Once she has a few
rounds of vaccines in her (she'll get 3-4 rounds total generally), you
can expand her life. If you have known safe dogs that you can get
together with in a private yard or home, that would be a good thing.

I mostly hate dog parks because people just don't seem to use common
sense. Even when she's vaccinated, be cautious around adult dogs who
may not like puppies.

Shouldn't he also be concerned about unpicked up poop and urine left by
dogs? I was told that feces and urine can carry disease as well. I'm lucky
in that Kiba had no exposure to dogs at all on our private lane before he
was fully protected, so it wasn't as much of a concern for me. But since he
had coccidia when he came home, he was NOT allowed to nose the ground after
potty breaks, in case of re-infection. I would think the same kind of rule
applies to a as-yet-unprotected dog and other dog's "leavings".
--
Phyrie
Kiba the Cav's Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

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Hello,

I have a 3 1/2 month old puppy that I just acquired and am only
schedule to get her vaccines early next week. The vet warned before
she has contact with other dogs she must be vaccinated, as such I've
avoided dog parks and such, though I still need to take her for walks.
As I live in the city the streets are often very crowded and sometimes
someone will round a corner with a dog unexpectedly, and before I can
pull her away the dogs have a split second of contact. Being a new dog
owner this may be a bit of a naive question, but should I be concerned
about this brief contact?

Thanks in advance
T

BTW, I must add that Chardonnay is a dangerous zealot who preaches raw food
and no vaccinations as if it was a life saving mantra. She is incapable of
giving any evidence to prove her positions, and just barks at people who
don't believe. I used to have her killfiled, but since so many people
respond to her, I un-killed her so I could follow along.
She might actually tell you that exposing your dog to parvo or lepto will
improve his immune system and make him healthier. She is both dangerous and
amoral.
As I am new here too, I have been subjected to some derision by the "old
guard", but believe them when they warn about this woman. She's seriously
deluded and would cause harm if anyone ever takes her advice.
--
Phyrie
Kiba the Cav's Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/

No you shouldn't. Actually, being out like that can boost the immune
system because of the exposure. That's the way dogs developed immunity way
before vaccines came along. Problem is, most vets think just like yours.

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT

Read this:

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/...ineDamage.html

Sorry to tell you that you are not cutting and pasting a study, but rather a
biased article that USES a study by carefully snipping bits and pieces that
suit their point of view.

IDIOT

Dangerous idiot