In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
You have my sympathies on that one - the same thing happened here
yesterday.

I wonder if it was the weather or what. The funny thing is
that they all stuck their face in the snow at the exact same
spot next to the fence near the porch door. I guess there
were moles or something under the snow but I now have an
Official Siberian Husky Face Hole in my yard.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 21 Dec 2008 14:40:30 -0500, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
You have my sympathies on that one - the same thing happened here
yesterday.

I wonder if it was the weather or what. The funny thing is
that they all stuck their face in the snow at the exact same
spot next to the fence near the porch door. I guess there
were moles or something under the snow but I now have an
Official Siberian Husky Face Hole in my yard.

Too bad it doesn't look like a Siberian Husky Face - you know, like
those metal things that sculpt to your face. What's kind of a pain
here is that the dogs don't all go out the same door - little dogs
prefer the side yard, which is fine because it's smaller and easier to
keep free of poopsicles. Triss the Bizarro Borzoi is going in the
side yard after dark, because she has developed a fondness for winter
digging at night. Once she gets in that digging hole, you have to go
out after her to get her in, and she comes in with mud up to her
elbows (she's tall!). I have no idea where this came from - she has
never dug in her entire life, first did this last year on Christmas
night and now she tries to do it almost every night - but I suspect
it's some sort of possession because when she comes in she's panting
and trembling. Of course, she hates to have her feet washed off.

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
I have no idea where this came from - she has
never dug in her entire life, first did this last year on Christmas
night and now she tries to do it almost every night - but I suspect
it's some sort of possession because when she comes in she's panting
and trembling.

What's the chance the Mukluk showed her that there are
rodents in there?

Of course, she hates to have her feet washed off.

It's amazing how dogs that can dig through the lithosphere
and eat rodents whole can be so freakin' dainty.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 21 Dec 2008 15:03:58 -0500, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
I have no idea where this came from - she has
never dug in her entire life, first did this last year on Christmas
night and now she tries to do it almost every night - but I suspect
it's some sort of possession because when she comes in she's panting
and trembling.

What's the chance the Mukluk showed her that there are
rodents in there?

Who knows. I thought Tasha had scared all the rodents out of the
yard, but she has been gone for over a year and a half now...But Triss
has no prey drive, and no one else is digging in the hole right now.
It's a mystery.

Of course, she hates to have her feet washed off.

It's amazing how dogs that can dig through the lithosphere
and eat rodents whole can be so freakin' dainty.

Heh. What's amazing, with her, is how clean she is, considering the
filth she was raised in. Whatever dirt we can't wash off she will
lick off; she must have eaten a lot of dirt in the last few weeks.

"lablover" wrote in message
...

Majority of
books I have read when it comes to potty training a puppy they say to
take his water away prior to him going to bed in a few hours and going
to the bathroom for the last time at night.

I never restricted water to Ruby and I also don't agree with doing so.

I don't think there's very many dogs out there who will roll over and
do tricks for water, or jump up on the table when your not looking to
find water to drink, or gorge themselves on water when they happen to
come across it. In other words, to a dog, water is kid of boring, they
drink it when they need it. It's not like food where a dog's instinct is
to gorge itself on food when it's available. In the wild, water isn't
running away from you all the time.

Ted

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:22:12 -0800, "Ted Mittelstaedt"
wrote:


"lablover" wrote in message
...

Majority of
books I have read when it comes to potty training a puppy they say to
take his water away prior to him going to bed in a few hours and going
to the bathroom for the last time at night.

I never restricted water to Ruby and I also don't agree with doing so.

I don't think there's very many dogs out there who will roll over and
do tricks for water, or jump up on the table when your not looking to
find water to drink, or gorge themselves on water when they happen to
come across it. In other words, to a dog, water is kid of boring, they
drink it when they need it. It's not like food where a dog's instinct is
to gorge itself on food when it's available. In the wild, water isn't
running away from you all the time.

Ted


you don't have a newf.

WATER is fun.
WATER is a game
WATER is a CONSTANT.
I refill a 2 quart water bowl HOURLY for my dog.

newfondly yours,

Nessa
----
Dog Mom to:
Hannah age 6.5 Pitador rescued age 9 weeks
Harley small shaggy cow that pretends he's a newfoundland rescued age 10 months
(Angel) Bagel went to Rainbow Bridge 9/18/08 my Newfandstuff age 8.5

In article ,
"Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote:


I don't think there's very many dogs out there who will ........gorge themselves on water when they happen to
come across it.

You'd be surprised, but generally that tends to be a created situation
(from withholding water)

In other words, to a dog, water is kid of boring, they
drink it when they need it. It's not like food where a dog's instinct is
to gorge itself on food when it's available.

You do realize that not all dogs will do that? There are dogs who will
graze or ignore a bowl of kibble, all day, every day. None of my
current dogs, but I did have a pup in the past who really didn't care
about eating.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote:
It's not like food where a dog's instinct is
to gorge itself on food when it's available.

You do realize that not all dogs will do that? There are dogs who will
graze or ignore a bowl of kibble, all day, every day. None of my
current dogs, but I did have a pup in the past who really didn't care
about eating.

As I have stated in the past, these two current dogs are the first ones that
I have *ever* not free-fed.

And since my past dogs were beagles and labs and coonhounds - all breeds
that are extremely food-oriented - and I am not the world's best dog
trainer - I think we can assume that there is more involved than simple dog
instinct.

I am perhaps fortunate that I never have encountered food aggressiveness but
food was always available in the dish (and not always kibble) and I never
had a dog who overate out of the dish. These same dogs would *always* take
a treat handed to them - even when the same food was in the dish.

The only aggressiveness I ever had to deal with was a mother/daughter pair
who ganged up on another daughter after she reached a non-puppy age. We had
to re-home her. True, they wouldn't let her eat but the food guarding
wasn't their issue.

Judy

On Dec 24, 8:16*am, Janet Boss
wrote:

You do realize that not all dogs will do that? *There are dogs who will
graze or ignore a bowl of kibble, all day, every day. *None of my
current dogs, but I did have a pup in the past who really didn't care
about eating.


Hannah leaves food now. Sometimes. Some days she eats her whole
amount 1 1/4 cup kibble twice a day and some days she leaves up to
1/3 cup behind.

My first dog (Chewy) was a free feeder. food was NOT her delight.
she was not a food driven dog at all...

"Janet Boss" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote:


I don't think there's very many dogs out there who will ........gorge
themselves on water when they happen to
come across it.

You'd be surprised, but generally that tends to be a created situation
(from withholding water)

In other words, to a dog, water is kid of boring, they
drink it when they need it. It's not like food where a dog's instinct is
to gorge itself on food when it's available.

You do realize that not all dogs will do that? There are dogs who will
graze or ignore a bowl of kibble, all day, every day. None of my
current dogs, but I did have a pup in the past who really didn't care
about eating.

Murphy is a nibbler. One of the articles on NILIF I read said to remove
the bowl of food after 10 minutes, and not to replace it till next mealtime.
I didn't understand why a dog should have to wolf his food. He is also not
proprietary about his food at all, which is amazing considering the
circumstances he came from. He'll let the littler kitten come right up
under his head and share the food. I guess he figures she won't eat much.
8^)