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Old January 7th 09, 03:39 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Help AGSR pay for Brooke's elbow dysplasia Surgery..
Get her back to running and jumping again!

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Brooke's Story

Hi friends,

My name is Brooke and have I got a story to tell you!

I am an adorable 7-month old German shepherd who was found wandering
the highway with my 2 siblings.
We were brought to the shelter, and boy, was I a mess!! Skinny, sores
all over my body, and almost no fur!!
Thankfully my big brown eyes and great big ears caught the attention
of the wonderful rescue group,
and all 3 of us were taken into foster care. My sister and brother
already got adopted – I am so jealous!!
But maybe it is better that I haven't been adopted yet, because I need
some extra help. You see, my
foster mom noticed that after playing chase with my new dog friends, I
have a slight limp.
I got some x-rays and found out I have something called ununited
anaconeal process – a fancy way of
saying elbow dysplasia. I've got an unjoined bit of bone in my elbow
and I need surgery pretty quickly
before I become permanently disabled. With the surgery I've got a
great chance of running and jumping
for a very long time. Without the surgery I will most likely lead a
short, painful life and will die while I'm
still a young girl. I could really use some help paying for this
surgery! I love to play tug and race around
the yard but I've got to get this elbow fixed if I'm ever going to
catch the other dogs. My hair has grown
back, I'm gaining weight, and I look fabulous – now I just need this
one more thing taken care of and then
I'm ready for my new home.

Will you help?

About AGSR (Austin German Shepherd Rescue)

Mission: To rescue, rehabilitate, and re-home German Shepherds from
across the state of Texas.
To educate the public about the versatility and ability of the German
Shepherd Dog.
AGSR is a A 501-3(c) non-profit, 100% volunteer organization.
Donations may be tax deductible.

AGSR rescues German Shepherds from all over the state of Texas (as
well as a few other states).
AGSR has no endowment or steady income stream other than income
provided by donations
and adoptions. The manpower for this organization is 100% volunteer.

Please consider donating to Brooke's cause. Her surgery (at reduced
pricing) will likely be in the neighborhood of
$1500. For every dog that is rescued and brought back to full health,
there are so many more waiting in shelters
and discarded by previous owners. Helping AGSR with caring for these
dogs not only helps this individual dog,
but helps to provide the financial resources so that additional pets
can be rescued and put into loving homes.

If you are interested in fostering a German Shepherd Dog (or mix) in
your home, please contact AGSR directly.
This organization desperately needs temporary homes for many dogs that
would otherwise exhaust their
wait time in public shelters. Interested in well behaved mature dogs?
AGSR needs homes for a whole range
of foster animals from puppies to senior adult & fully trained dogs.
Contact AGSR Directly if you can help .

Intake for Austin German Shepherd has been closed completely due to
lack of foster space and too many dogs in the program.
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spoke these words of wisdom in
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Help AGSR pay for Brooke's elbow dysplasia Surgery..
Get her back to running and jumping again!

Snip story of dog needing extensive resources
Intake for Austin German Shepherd has been closed completely due to
lack of foster space and too many dogs in the program.

Sad story about rescue over extending available resoources.
Unfortunately it's a sad story in rescues EVERYWHERE. there are way too
many dogs needing rescue. Many WONDERFUL dogs that need no resources except
time and a space to stay, they have no training/behavioral/health issues,
yet they doe simply because there is no space available. Whenever someone
spends a ton of resources on a needy dog, there are many "dog of a
lifetimes" that require nothing except a space for a short period and
advertizement that they exist that die.

Whenever you make a choice to save a dog, another dies.

with the extensive resource issue that you are currently experiencing, I
would suggest you need to re-evaluate your resource use.

to any other contributors, PLEASE do not contribute to PETA, or the
National Humane Societies, those funds go to administrative needs or
political lobbying. NOT to the animals that need it.

Instead, contribute to your breed rescue, and local rescues and humane
shelters.

This ad for resource plea, may be well intentioned, but why give to an
organization that mishandles resources? Why not just donate locally to a
resource that needs it, and you can monitor how they are handled, and see
the difference made at home?
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Old January 7th 09, 10:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"diddy" none wrote in message
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spoke these words of wisdom in
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Help AGSR pay for Brooke's elbow dysplasia Surgery..
Get her back to running and jumping again!

Snip story of dog needing extensive resources
Intake for Austin German Shepherd has been closed completely due to
lack of foster space and too many dogs in the program.

Sad story about rescue over extending available resoources.
Unfortunately it's a sad story in rescues EVERYWHERE. there are way too
many dogs needing rescue. Many WONDERFUL dogs that need no resources
except
time and a space to stay, they have no training/behavioral/health issues,
yet they doe simply because there is no space available. Whenever someone
spends a ton of resources on a needy dog, there are many "dog of a
lifetimes" that require nothing except a space for a short period and
advertizement that they exist that die.

Whenever you make a choice to save a dog, another dies.

with the extensive resource issue that you are currently experiencing, I
would suggest you need to re-evaluate your resource use.

to any other contributors, PLEASE do not contribute to PETA, or the
National Humane Societies, those funds go to administrative needs or
political lobbying. NOT to the animals that need it.

Instead, contribute to your breed rescue, and local rescues and humane
shelters.

This ad for resource plea, may be well intentioned, but why give to an
organization that mishandles resources? Why not just donate locally to a
resource that needs it, and you can monitor how they are handled, and see
the difference made at home?


This also illustrates the problem when someone takes special interest in a
particular dog, and then needs to find others to help with the rescue. That
is what happened with Muttley, and my friend Helene took it on herself to
rescue four dogs she had come to know when she made her rounds as a
visiting nurse. She would give them dog biscuits and feed them and then
finally she had to physically take two of the dogs to other places, because
they were on the verge of death from malnutrition and the lack of shelter
in the cold winter. She could not (or would not) take them into her home
because she could not bear to cause any discomfort for her spoiled cat, but
she did spend considerable money having them boarded at her vet's until she
found other accomodations.

With Muttley and his Rottie Bitch, they were rounded up by Animal Control,
and she had to pull strings, including mine, to get them sprung, but then
she took them to a friend who already had an elderly dog and about 30 cats.
Muttley could not be trusted with the cats and he escaped from her fenced
yard, so he was taken to a rescue and then was castrated, which was when I
again got involved to take him to the SPCA. He was supposed to have been
cleared to be kept for adoption, but when I took him there to be
surrendered, they told me he would be put down. By that time I had become
invested in his welfare, and we had started to bond, so that I had to make
some difficult decisions and lifestyle changes to accommodate a dog. But
each of these dogs wound up costing her and me several hundred dollars,
which probably could have saved even more dogs who were more readily
adoptable.

Similarly with Lucky, our expenses for just that one dog totalled probably
over $500, which probably could have saved four or five other dogs. But
again, I bonded to her when we sprung her from the pound, and as she rested
with increasing trust in my lap as we took her to her friend's place, and
then to the vet's, and then to Ted's, and then to another vet to be spayed,
and then to my place where I could not risk her and Muttley playing roughly
(or fighting) so soon after surgery, and then finally to DOAR, where I hope
she finally settled into a forever home. That was a lot of effort and
expense for just one dog, but once I got to know her she became special.

Now Helene is trying to rescue an older street dog, a big, friendly Belgian
Malinoit named "Rambo", and so another drama is about to commence.

Paul and Muttley


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Old January 8th 09, 12:01 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Paul E. Schoen" spoke these words of wisdom in
:
The problem is Rescues take in a lot of money whenever there is a
publicized horror story. People LOVE to help. every shelter and rescue has
deserving cases like this puppy GSD with a genetic problem. Frankly just
about every GSD has a genetic problem, so if you decide to fund one, why
not fund them all?

But Rescue needs to triage.

They need a high profile case that brings in far more resources for other
animals than the high profile case actually needs. (Take care of that high
profile case though! Funding means happy endings)

The rest must be easy to place, low resource using adoptions with high turn
overs.

$500 is not unreasonable investments in rescues btw. But when it goes over
the $1,000 per animal figure, rescues need to triage and re-evaluate.

$1,000 easily buys a new kennel which can be used by MANY future dogs. You
might buy acreage to put that kennel. Fences. FOOD, Vet bills, and
transport. Fences are sustainable constant resources which pay dividends in
long term use. As are kennels.
everything are liquid resources.

IF your rescue has a surplus of resources from generous supporting
benefactors, then go ahead, and DO that surgery for that puppy.

But obviously this case does not have resources, and choses to rob from
local rescue groups (and possibly better managed and possibly even more
heart rending stories of need) than this poorly managed rescue that simply
wants to benefit from begging on the internet for a not so sensational
cause, and how do we know it's even legit?


I would like someone to pay MY vet bills too!




This also illustrates the problem when someone takes special interest in
a particular dog, and then needs to find others to help with the rescue.
That is what happened with Muttley, and my friend Helene took it on
herself to rescue four dogs she had come to know when she made her
rounds as a visiting nurse. She would give them dog biscuits and feed
them and then finally she had to physically take two of the dogs to
other places, because they were on the verge of death from malnutrition
and the lack of shelter in the cold winter. She could not (or would not)
take them into her home because she could not bear to cause any
discomfort for her spoiled cat, but she did spend considerable money
having them boarded at her vet's until she found other accomodations.

With Muttley and his Rottie Bitch, they were rounded up by Animal
Control, and she had to pull strings, including mine, to get them
sprung, but then she took them to a friend who already had an elderly
dog and about 30 cats. Muttley could not be trusted with the cats and he
escaped from her fenced yard, so he was taken to a rescue and then was
castrated, which was when I again got involved to take him to the SPCA.
He was supposed to have been cleared to be kept for adoption, but when I
took him there to be surrendered, they told me he would be put down. By
that time I had become invested in his welfare, and we had started to
bond, so that I had to make some difficult decisions and lifestyle
changes to accommodate a dog. But each of these dogs wound up costing
her and me several hundred dollars, which probably could have saved even
more dogs who were more readily adoptable.

Similarly with Lucky, our expenses for just that one dog totalled
probably over $500, which probably could have saved four or five other
dogs. But again, I bonded to her when we sprung her from the pound, and
as she rested with increasing trust in my lap as we took her to her
friend's place, and then to the vet's, and then to Ted's, and then to
another vet to be spayed, and then to my place where I could not risk
her and Muttley playing roughly (or fighting) so soon after surgery, and
then finally to DOAR, where I hope she finally settled into a forever
home. That was a lot of effort and expense for just one dog, but once I
got to know her she became special.

Now Helene is trying to rescue an older street dog, a big, friendly
Belgian Malinoit named "Rambo", and so another drama is about to
commence.

Paul and Muttley



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Old January 8th 09, 12:04 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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diddy wrote:
Many WONDERFUL dogs that need no resources except
time and a space to stay, they have no training/behavioral/health issues,
yet they doe simply because there is no space available.


They doe?

I usually don't care about misspelled words but obviously it's a huge
giant problem when you do it on this group. Or maybe it's just something
else to throw at me?

There is no fairness on this group.
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Old January 8th 09, 12:05 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Paul E. Schoen wrote:


This also illustrates the problem when someone takes special interest in a
particular dog, and then needs to find others to help with the rescue. That
is what happened with Muttley, and my friend Helene took it on herself to
rescue four dogs she had come to know when she made her rounds as a
visiting nurse. She would give them dog biscuits and feed them and then
finally she had to physically take two of the dogs to other places, because
they were on the verge of death from malnutrition and the lack of shelter
in the cold winter. She could not (or would not) take them into her home
because she could not bear to cause any discomfort for her spoiled cat, but
she did spend considerable money having them boarded at her vet's until she
found other accomodations.

With Muttley and his Rottie Bitch, they were rounded up by Animal Control,
and she had to pull strings, including mine, to get them sprung, but then
she took them to a friend who already had an elderly dog and about 30 cats.
Muttley could not be trusted with the cats and he escaped from her fenced
yard, so he was taken to a rescue and then was castrated, which was when I
again got involved to take him to the SPCA. He was supposed to have been
cleared to be kept for adoption, but when I took him there to be
surrendered, they told me he would be put down. By that time I had become
invested in his welfare, and we had started to bond, so that I had to make
some difficult decisions and lifestyle changes to accommodate a dog. But
each of these dogs wound up costing her and me several hundred dollars,
which probably could have saved even more dogs who were more readily
adoptable.


Several hundred dollars is a pretty common figure when it comes to
rescuing dogs. I have heard many rescue groups at fundraisers state
that the adoption fees do not fully cover the cost of rescuing a dog
when their typical rescue fee is $250 or more. While I don't doubt
their average cost to rescue per dog is over $250, I think with proper
management $250 per individual dog sounds fairly doable. They can't
take in the dogs they know will be long term boarders or dogs they
know will have high medical expenses. On many occasions I have seen
special fundraisers for dogs where the group was aware of the medical
condition at the time the dog was acquired. The medical bills
frequently reach the several thousand dollar mark, and yet they still
take in the dog. That is where the problem lies.

Personally, I do not donate at fundraisers for a specific dog where a
rescue group is involved. I also do not donate to rescue groups when I
know they make a habit of taking in the more expensive dogs to rescue.

Nick
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Old January 8th 09, 12:12 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Nick spoke these words of
wisdom in :

Paul E. Schoen wrote:


This also illustrates the problem when someone takes special interest
in a particular dog, and then needs to find others to help with the
rescue. That is what happened with Muttley, and my friend Helene took
it on herself to rescue four dogs she had come to know when she made
her rounds as a visiting nurse. She would give them dog biscuits and
feed them and then finally she had to physically take two of the dogs
to other places, because they were on the verge of death from
malnutrition and the lack of shelter in the cold winter. She could not
(or would not) take them into her home because she could not bear to
cause any discomfort for her spoiled cat, but she did spend
considerable money having them boarded at her vet's until she found
other accomodations.

With Muttley and his Rottie Bitch, they were rounded up by Animal
Control, and she had to pull strings, including mine, to get them
sprung, but then she took them to a friend who already had an elderly
dog and about 30 cats. Muttley could not be trusted with the cats and
he escaped from her fenced yard, so he was taken to a rescue and then
was castrated, which was when I again got involved to take him to the
SPCA. He was supposed to have been cleared to be kept for adoption, but
when I took him there to be surrendered, they told me he would be put
down. By that time I had become invested in his welfare, and we had
started to bond, so that I had to make some difficult decisions and
lifestyle changes to accommodate a dog. But each of these dogs wound up
costing her and me several hundred dollars, which probably could have
saved even more dogs who were more readily adoptable.


Several hundred dollars is a pretty common figure when it comes to
rescuing dogs. I have heard many rescue groups at fundraisers state
that the adoption fees do not fully cover the cost of rescuing a dog
when their typical rescue fee is $250 or more. While I don't doubt
their average cost to rescue per dog is over $250, I think with proper
management $250 per individual dog sounds fairly doable. They can't
take in the dogs they know will be long term boarders or dogs they
know will have high medical expenses. On many occasions I have seen
special fundraisers for dogs where the group was aware of the medical
condition at the time the dog was acquired. The medical bills
frequently reach the several thousand dollar mark, and yet they still
take in the dog. That is where the problem lies.

Personally, I do not donate at fundraisers for a specific dog where a
rescue group is involved. I also do not donate to rescue groups when I
know they make a habit of taking in the more expensive dogs to rescue.

Nick


Exactly.

If a group has $500 investing in an animal by the time it's speutered,
microchipped, vetted, evaluated, trained, and homed long enough to be
evaluated properly, and advertized to find the RIGHT home, I do not
consider that out of line.

It's the dogs that go over the $1,000 mark that I consider mismanagement.

I do forgive the ocassional high publicity heart string puller that more
often than not brings in way more resources than it actually uses. These
cases make rescue awareness stay in the public eye and open purse strings
that are otherwise knotted.

I DON'T believe in world wide public spamming of your case. Local radio,
TV, news, news papers, all work for you. If it's a specific breed, spam
your local breed groups.

If the heart string story doesn't work there and make you money, you need
to re-evaluate your triage policies.
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In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
I usually don't care about misspelled words but obviously it's a huge
giant problem when you do it on this group. Or maybe it's just something
else to throw at me?


The issue with your writing isn't spelling - indeed, there's
a pretty broad tolerance for misspelled words in general.
Your problem is vocabulary. You routinely misuse common
words or invent your own. In fact, just about the only time
you make it through a post without a major biff is when
you're plagiarizing someone else.

I had a good friend who was self-conscious about her crappy
language skills so she took classes. It's never too late
for you to get your GED.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
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"chardonnay9" wrote in message
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I usually don't care about misspelled words but obviously it's a huge
giant problem when you do it on this group. Or maybe it's just something
else to throw at me?

There is no fairness on this group.


Misspelled words are one thing. Especially when they are clearly typos.

Misused words are another thing. Nonexistent words are yet another.

What matters is clarity. You haven't been corrected for any typos.

Since you don't understand most of what you post here, it makes your lack of
clarity yet another concern for those actually reading your posts.

Judy

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"chardonnay9" wrote in message
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diddy wrote:
Many WONDERFUL dogs that need no resources except time and a space to
stay, they have no training/behavioral/health issues, yet they doe
simply because there is no space available.


They doe?

I usually don't care about misspelled words but obviously it's a huge
giant problem when you do it on this group. Or maybe it's just something
else to throw at me?

There is no fairness on this group.


Life is not fair. The internet is less so, as it allows the least among
people with a bare minimum of computer skills to present themselves to the
world however they see fit. Each newsgroup seems to have at least one or
two resident kooks, an overabundance of self-righteous net-kkkops who
attempt to speak for the entire community, lurkers and rare posters who are
too meek to tempt the wrath of the usual suspects, and a few who are brave
enough to speak their minds and attempt rational discourse.

Criticism of spelling and simple grammatical and typographical mistakes are
generally cheap shots which serve no purpose other than to derail an
otherwise civil and logical conversation and debate. Similarly, "fixed"
posts and "tweeners" are childish attempts to discredit new ideas and
alternative viewpoints. Such people as those who use these techniques do
not fight fair, but that usually means that they have no other weapons to
use, and in a sense they are admitting defeat, even though their
brown-nosed cohorts will back them up and attempt to hen-peck the
interlopers out of the roost.

I don't necessarily agree with everything, or even very much, that you say,
but I commend you on your ability to stay the course and attempt to get
your message across. Dog training and health are not issues of hard science
where ideas can be proven or disproven, but are instead matters of
experience and common sense interspersed with novel ideas and ancient
wisdom that may be unknown to, or rejected by, the mainstream.

Even JH has some good ideas, and certainly I agree that most dogs will
respond much better to kindness, praise, and bonding with their human
partners. But unfortunately he has very poor people skills and everything
to him is totally black or white, with no gray area for discussion and
alternate ideas.

The fact that some people choose to filter my posts or attempt to ridicule
or discredit me will not stop me from posting what I think is right, and I
will continue to defend myself and my wonderful dog and I will counter any
attempt to distort what I know to be the truth when it involves my actual
experiences. No matter what some people would like to believe, I am very
much a dog person, and I relate very well to them. And I am also very much
a people person, and I get along well with many good friends and new people
I meet along the way. And my dog is a good canine citizen who behaves well
with other dogs and people. Yet I seem to have problems with some of the
extreme "dog trainer" mentalities who populate this newsgroup.

Oh well. You are right. It just isn't fair. But you can make it what you
want it to be if you just discount what some people say, and realize that
they have their own problems.

Paul and Muttley


 




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