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Old January 7th 09, 05:45 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Suja wrote:
She has had 'The Works' in terms of blood work-up, and everything is fine.
The urinalysis consistantly shows that the pH is off, but everything else is
in normal ranges.


Have they cultured the bacteria to find which antibiotics
it's sensitive to?

Greta had a permanent UTI but the situation was different -
her pituitary mass caused her to be polydipsic which led to
very dilute urine. I worked with Cornell for a couple of
years and never did find anything to knock it out, so she
was on Clavamox permanently for the last years of her life.
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Old January 7th 09, 05:51 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Suja" spoke these words of wisdom in
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As for other general health issues, she has environmental allergies, and
is on allergy shots for that. A long time ago, she used to get
recurrent bouts of diarrhea, but that cleared up when they switched
foods. Oh, and there is something anatomically off about her vulva (I
forget the term), but the vet said that it might make her more prone to
infections.

Suja




hyperplasia? vulva inversion?

There is an over the counter drug that I found was a godsend to Reka (who
has hyperplasia as well as being a hermaphrodite (leaving all kinds of
anomalies to grow bacteria) called Cystex. It's kept behind the counter
and never in plain sight, but it's not prescription (not sure why the extra
care)
It's a urinary acidifier (which may not be compatible with the Science diet
CD) and antipurient (relieves the burn and urgency). At first notice
something is wrong, I give it to her (My pharmacist recommended it and I
cleared it with my vet. ) I always follow up at the vets, but I use it
until a veterinary appointment can be achieved and often treatment is
uneccesary if I get it started soon enough.

Also I follow up with cranberry pills.

It's been a godesend with Reka!
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Old January 7th 09, 05:54 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Isabelle, my friend's 8 year old Pit mix has been having recurrent UTIs for
the past few months. Typical pattern is the dog needs to pee more
frequently, urinalysis comes up positive for bad bugs, the dog is treated
for two weeks, is off meds for a week or 10 days, and then it starts all
over again. During a couple of these incidents, there has been blood in the
urine. After the last course (2 weeks antibiotics), she was on a cranberry
supplement of some sort, but she just started another UTI yesterday
(accident in the house, blood in urine), and the urinalysis showed that the
urine pH continues to be off.

She has had 'The Works' in terms of blood work-up, and everything is fine.
The urinalysis consistantly shows that the pH is off, but everything else is
in normal ranges. I'm thinking that it's all fine and good to bring the pH
back within normal limits, but there is a reason why it is off in the first
place, and the current course of treatment isn't getting to it. Ideas for
what could be going wrong is much appreciated. I believe they're looking
into imaging studies next (kidney/bladder stones). She has been switched to
Science Diet C/d to see if that would help.

As for other general health issues, she has environmental allergies, and is
on allergy shots for that. A long time ago, she used to get recurrent bouts
of diarrhea, but that cleared up when they switched foods. Oh, and there is
something anatomically off about her vulva (I forget the term), but the vet
said that it might make her more prone to infections.

Suja


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Old January 7th 09, 06:01 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Melinda Shore" wrote in message:

Have they cultured the bacteria to find which antibiotics
it's sensitive to?


Didn't the very first time. Have done it the next 3 or 4 times. It is
sensitive to Clavamox, and her symptoms clear up nicely, but it just keeps
coming back.

Greta had a permanent UTI but the situation was different -
her pituitary mass caused her to be polydipsic which led to
very dilute urine. I worked with Cornell for a couple of
years and never did find anything to knock it out, so she
was on Clavamox permanently for the last years of her life.


That's kind of what we're trying to avoid. She's still young enough, and we
can't see any reason why the bug won't leave the system (or keeps coming
back). I know that dogs with endocrine disorders can be prone to recurrent,
persistent UTIs, but her blood work is all clear and she has no other
symptoms.

Suja


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Old January 7th 09, 06:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Suja" spoke these words of wisdom in
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"diddy" none wrote in message:

hyperplasia?


Yes! That's it!

There is an over the counter drug that I found was a godsend to Reka
(who has hyperplasia as well as being a hermaphrodite (leaving all
kinds of anomalies to grow bacteria) called Cystex.


Awesome! Thank you.

Also I follow up with cranberry pills.


Any particular kind? What sort of dosage? Isabelle's mom said that she
started off on a really high dose, and then lowered it (as of Saturday).
The vet didn't think she should stay on a really high dose, and the low
dose does not appear to have helped.

Suja


I gave her low dose of cranberry pills.. general drug store variety. .
Since Cystex is also a urinary acidifier, veterinary consult should be
done. Cystex is for humans but my pharmacist suggested 2 cystex twice a day
(41 pound dog)

Vet approved it.

It doesn't work miracles, but it certainly works wonders.




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Old January 7th 09, 06:26 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"diddy" none wrote in message:

hyperplasia?


Yes! That's it!

There is an over the counter drug that I found was a godsend to Reka (who
has hyperplasia as well as being a hermaphrodite (leaving all kinds of
anomalies to grow bacteria) called Cystex.


Awesome! Thank you.

Also I follow up with cranberry pills.


Any particular kind? What sort of dosage? Isabelle's mom said that she
started off on a really high dose, and then lowered it (as of Saturday).
The vet didn't think she should stay on a really high dose, and the low dose
does not appear to have helped.

Suja


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Old January 8th 09, 12:10 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
Suja wrote:
She has had 'The Works' in terms of blood work-up, and everything is fine.
The urinalysis consistantly shows that the pH is off, but everything else is
in normal ranges.


Have they cultured the bacteria to find which antibiotics
it's sensitive to?

Greta had a permanent UTI but the situation was different -
her pituitary mass caused her to be polydipsic which led to
very dilute urine. I worked with Cornell for a couple of
years and never did find anything to knock it out, so she
was on Clavamox permanently for the last years of her life.


No such thing as a permanent UTI. Colloidal silver will knock such
things out because nothing can build a tolerance to it like they do with
antibiotics. It can kill over 600 types of bacteria, fungus and virus.
No antibiotic can do that.

Oil of oregano would have most likely done the same thing.

But let's put our collective heads in the sand and pretend there are no
cures except for the ones marketed by Big Pharma.

There were no superbugs before antibiotics came along.
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Old January 8th 09, 12:12 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Suja wrote:
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message:

Have they cultured the bacteria to find which antibiotics
it's sensitive to?


Didn't the very first time. Have done it the next 3 or 4 times. It is
sensitive to Clavamox, and her symptoms clear up nicely, but it just keeps
coming back.


That's because your vet, like most, treated a symptom and not the
underlying problem. They are great at that! After all, if they actually
cure the dog they would lose a great deal of money.
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Old January 8th 09, 12:14 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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diddy wrote:
"Suja" spoke these words of wisdom in
:


As for other general health issues, she has environmental allergies, and
is on allergy shots for that. A long time ago, she used to get
recurrent bouts of diarrhea, but that cleared up when they switched
foods. Oh, and there is something anatomically off about her vulva (I
forget the term), but the vet said that it might make her more prone to
infections.

Suja




hyperplasia? vulva inversion?

There is an over the counter drug that I found was a godsend to Reka (who
has hyperplasia as well as being a hermaphrodite (leaving all kinds of
anomalies to grow bacteria) called Cystex. It's kept behind the counter
and never in plain sight, but it's not prescription (not sure why the extra
care)
It's a urinary acidifier (which may not be compatible with the Science diet
CD) and antipurient (relieves the burn and urgency). At first notice
something is wrong, I give it to her (My pharmacist recommended it and I
cleared it with my vet. ) I always follow up at the vets, but I use it
until a veterinary appointment can be achieved and often treatment is
uneccesary if I get it started soon enough.

Also I follow up with cranberry pills.

It's been a godesend with Reka!



Science Diet? Total garbage. Don't wonder why the dog has problems when
it's on a high carb diet.
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Old January 8th 09, 12:15 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
No such thing as a permanent UTI. Colloidal silver will
turn your dog blue.


Fixed your post.
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