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Old January 19th 09, 09:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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In article ,
Tara Green wrote:
But the downside is that its amazing how a 20 pounder can hog an entire
queen sized bed. I think there should be entire fields of physics
devoted to this very phenomenon.


He contains multitudes! I sometimes have six dogs on the
bed, also queen-sized, and it's usually not a problem.

How are the pooches? Still sledding?


Oh, yeah, or rather finally sledding. This is the best
winter we've had in about eight years. I don't know if you
know this but I got a puppy last spring, closely related to
four of my girls (his mother is one of Eclipse's
littermates), and so we've got a rookie on the team and
that's been an extra lot of fun.

I still think about making you
house me and take me out for some dog sledding one of these days :-)


You drive. I never get to ride. I've been wondering if you
ever got out on a sledding adventure. There's actually
someone from northern NJ running the Iditarod this year. I
think I've got a trying training situation, but it sounds
like hers is something else. Apparently when she goes out
on training runs she sends her mother out ahead of her in a
car with a two-way radio so that her mom can stop traffic
when the team comes to a road crossing. There's also been
some dryland stuff in the Pine Barrens. Anyway, so there's
some mushing closer to you than I would have guessed.
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
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Old January 19th 09, 09:41 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
Tara Green wrote:
In checking for the thread ("Another sad story of a dog treat gone
bad"), I realize that it MIGHT not have been her dog. Though, because
she provided zero citations, and no referencing its impossible to say
that it wasn't. I mean, it's written in the first person!


She's a serial plagiarist, as well - there's very little in
what she's posted that's original text (the ad hominem
posts, but that's about it), but she frequently fails to
acknowledge the actual author, or sometimes she acknowledges
someone other than the author.


sarcasmI murder children, torture kittens and set houses on fire too.
/sarcasm
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Old January 19th 09, 10:13 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"chardonnay9" wrote in message
m...
Melinda Shore wrote:
She's a serial plagiarist, as well - there's very little in
what she's posted that's original text (the ad hominem
posts, but that's about it), but she frequently fails to
acknowledge the actual author, or sometimes she acknowledges
someone other than the author.


sarcasmI murder children, torture kittens and set houses on fire too.
/sarcasm


So - as long as you don't murder children and torture kittens, it's
acceptable for you to plagiarize and to fail to credit or even acknowledge
someone else's work?

And you do realize that you have now stated for THE ARCHIVES that you murder
children, torture kittens and set houses on fire?

Do you think or just react?

Judy

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Old January 20th 09, 12:55 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Shelly" wrote in message:

Yes, like all sorts of other quack remedies. That people fall for
them over and over and over doesn't make them magically work, nor
does it mean that they are necessarily safe.


One of the things I've learned from being on the Cushing's board is that
people are often scared enough of properly studied medications (with
Cushing's, *improper* administration of the medication can cause serious
problems) that they're willing to take someone's unverified claims about
efficacy. Even with testimony from hundreds of people to the contrary with
real life experience with the disease and no real research to back up,
people often resort to the "herbal" (substitute holistic/ayurvedic/whatever
here) option.

Suja


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Old January 20th 09, 01:56 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Suja wrote:
"Shelly" wrote in message:

Yes, like all sorts of other quack remedies. That people fall for
them over and over and over doesn't make them magically work, nor
does it mean that they are necessarily safe.


One of the things I've learned from being on the Cushing's board is that
people are often scared enough of properly studied medications (with
Cushing's, *improper* administration of the medication can cause serious
problems) that they're willing to take someone's unverified claims about
efficacy. Even with testimony from hundreds of people to the contrary with
real life experience with the disease and no real research to back up,
people often resort to the "herbal" (substitute holistic/ayurvedic/whatever
here) option.

Suja



Usually that is because they've done their homework and figured out that
many claims are not "unverified" at all.

Properly studied? Ya gotta be kidding! Look at the huge amount of drugs
that have been pulled off the market after giving them to the public.
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Old January 20th 09, 02:03 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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chardonnay9 wrote:
Tara Green wrote:

I keep hearing a reference to a dog being blinded. Anyone have a link?


Good luck finding one. There was no blind dog. It's just an attempt at
flaming me.


Also, did I see that her dog just got impacted and died not too long ago?


Nope, that didn't happen either. I can see you don't keep track well do
you?


Actually, I'm pretty good at checking references, notations and cites.
You did NONE of the above in the post you "wrote" about the dog dying.
And since you posted something written solely in the first person, with
absolutely no attributions, there was ZERO way to "keep track".

If you can't figure out how to add a simple attribution to a post, this
is not my problem.

But, FWIW I'm really glad you didn't kill your dog.


Does she not realize that there are people here who have had similar
things happen with raw bones (which I am not even against)?


I realize some people have dogs that get things stuck in their digestive
system. Sometimes it's bones, sometimes it's socks, sometimes dogs choke
on kibble. What's your point?


My point is that in my short time back on Usenet, I have seen you
outright tell people that the only healthy diet for a dog includes raw
bones and no manufactured foods. At least in this response above you are
acknowledging that different dogs have different abilities to handle
different things well. The same goes for food. And medicine.

How many of her dogs have lived out their natural lives without
nutritionally based disaster striking them down?


All of them. One died of a heart problem caused by vaccinations. Other
than that they lived to old ages.


Good. I'm glad.

You are reading fairy tales from the loonies in here who can't otherwise
make me look bad.


I've read your posts. They may dislike you and have a vested interest in
putting you down, but quite a few of the posts that made you look bad
were, in fact, written by you. That's why I asked.

T
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Old January 20th 09, 02:09 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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(null) wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote:
It is still not too late! Please join this group for lots of great help
dealing with this situation.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/O...soup_for_Pets/


Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants known and many
people and pets have died from it.


Have you ever eaten tapioca pudding? It's poisonous when it's raw too.
It has cyanide in it which the Mayan Indians used for their blow darts.
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Old January 20th 09, 02:15 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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chardonnay9 wrote:
(null) wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote:
It is still not too late! Please join this group for lots of great
help dealing with this situation.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/O...soup_for_Pets/


Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants known and many
people and pets have died from it.


Have you ever eaten tapioca pudding? It's poisonous when it's raw too.
It has cyanide in it which the Mayan Indians used for their blow darts.


You are aware that Tapioca pudding is made with the sweeter,
non-poisonous variety of Tapioca....right?

Right?

T
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Old January 20th 09, 02:44 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Tara Green wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote:
(null) wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote:
It is still not too late! Please join this group for lots of great
help dealing with this situation.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/O...soup_for_Pets/

Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants known and many
people and pets have died from it.


Have you ever eaten tapioca pudding? It's poisonous when it's raw too.
It has cyanide in it which the Mayan Indians used for their blow darts.


You are aware that Tapioca pudding is made with the sweeter,
non-poisonous variety of Tapioca....right?

Right?

T


Actually it has less poison but is never "non-poisonous" in it's raw
state. For some smaller-rooted "sweet" varieties, cooking is sufficient
to eliminate all toxicity. The larger-rooted "bitter" varieties used for
production of flour or starch must be processed to remove the cyanogenic
glucosides.
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Old January 20th 09, 05:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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All of them. One died of a heart problem caused by vaccinations. Other
than that they lived to old ages.


A necropsy like this would be standing room only at one of the many
conferences I attend.

As usual - I believe she is delusional.


 




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