chardonnay9 wrote:
Shelly wrote:
(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:gldedb$hoj$1
@panix2.panix.com:

In general, the more the dog eats the more often it should
be fed.

I'd not heard that rule of thumb before.
FWIW, I usually feed 3x per day. Occasionally I add a 4th meal.
Sometimes that extra meal is split from one of her other meals, but
other times it's on top of her normal daily total of kibble. My dog
is weird. She horks up mucous when she goes too long without eating,
and what constitutes "too long" has decreased over time. So, we went
from 2x/day to 3x/day and now I guess we may be on the way to 4x/day.
It's also possible that a recent food change is responsible for the
also-recent horking. Time will tell. I only mention it because for
this dog, at least, how much she eats and how often she needs to eat
are dependent on a whole lotta stuff. That said, I can't imagine
feeding a dog just once a day. I know some people do, but I wouldn't,
without a really good reason.


But you don't mention how much you feed at a time, probably for good
reason. I've heard you starve your dog because you can't control what
you personally eat.

http://web.archive.org/web/200607211...e/Wshelly2.jpg


Breaking Mental Illness News, JUNE 2004!

HATTIE @ 47 lbs!

Hattie, a boxer owned by shelly couvrette is
now down to 47 pounds. Couvrette, a librarian
at Indiana U. who suffers from obsessive/
compulsive disorder (OCD), was told by three
different Veterinarians that Hattie was "way
too skinny" when Hattie weighed 53 lbs.

Undeterred by that, and the reactions from
family and strangers on the street, shelly
continued shopping for vets and cutting
calories until Hattie,a chronic counter
surfer at age 5 now weighs just 47 lbs!

shelly finds all the symptoms of a starving
dog searching for nutrients to be
entertaining. Couvrette has developed a unique
technique to fool dogs who are having
pangs of starvation. She feeds them
green beans and canned pumpkin, so there
will be some "filler" in their stomachs
when they give her the "I'm Starving--no,
really" routine.

shelly is not nearly as obsessed with her
own weight, and has never been told by a
medical professional that she is "way too
skinny." If so, that medical professional
would be end up on this crazy person list
as well.

chardonnay9 wrote in
m:

But you don't mention how much you feed at a time,

She currently gets a total of about 2 cups of food per day. For a
dog her size, and for a food as dense as she's eating, that's not at
all unreasonable.

probably for good reason. I've heard you starve your dog because
you can't control what you personally eat.

Um, no. The people I got her from starved her.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
I'd not heard that rule of thumb before.

Well, damn. A friend recently published a second edition of
his "Rules of Thumb" book and I should have contributed
that.

But seriously, a common source of diarrhea is TOO MUCH
FOOD. Splitting it up into smaller, more frequent meals is
the ticket.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:gldimb$7l8$1
@panix2.panix.com:

Well, damn. A friend recently published a second edition of
his "Rules of Thumb" book and I should have contributed
that.

I wasn't being facetious. It makes sense, but I seriously hadn't
seen it put that way before, nor had I ever thought of it in those
terms. Apparently, I R DUMM.

But seriously, a common source of diarrhea is TOO MUCH
FOOD. Splitting it up into smaller, more frequent meals is
the ticket.

Is that what the OP's problem is? I thought he was just asking a
general question. I plonked him, so I only saw snippets of his
question.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
Is that what the OP's problem is?

He didn't mention it in this email but he's posted about
gastrointestinal misadventures in the past.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Shelly wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote in
m:

But you don't mention how much you feed at a time,

She currently gets a total of about 2 cups of food per day. For a
dog her size, and for a food as dense as she's eating, that's not at
all unreasonable.

probably for good reason. I've heard you starve your dog because
you can't control what you personally eat.

Um, no. The people I got her from starved her.


Are you talking about Hattie? What does she weigh? Why did so many vets
say you are starving her? Two cups of what?

Shelly wrote:


I wasn't being facetious. It makes sense, but I seriously hadn't
seen it put that way before, nor had I ever thought of it in those
terms. Apparently, I R DUMM.

SHELLY IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T THINK HATTIE IS STARVING


"heck, not even my 55-65lb dogs get a whole one to themselves.
unless their really small (e.g. Nutro's Puppy PB Pork Chops),
i split biscuits between them. just because they have big
mouths doesn't mean they need to stuff them full G."

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet



"when i got harriet she was emaciated, so i asked my vet for advice on
slowly adding weight to her. six months later i took harriet in for her
spring check-up and my vet was surprised that at how thin she still was."
--shelly couvrette


"raises hand i've been told by three different vets that
harriet (53lbs) is *way* too skinny. we're still
vet-shopping, BTW."

--shelly couv.rette

"if you really can't resist
it when your dog pulls the "i'm starving!" routine G, you can give
him some frozen green beans or a small amount of plain pureed pumpkin.
i would also suggest putting the food out of his sight. i keep my
food--still inside the bags, which are tightly rolled down--inside
trash cans in the closed laundry room. that keeps it fresh and keeps
it out of my dogs' sight."

--shelly couvrette

"heh. i get the opposite response. people think that poor little
harriet is positively starved to death. i've actually had people stop
me in the pet supply shop and tell me that i need to fatten her up!"

--shelly couvrette


"i think that may be part of the problem. who wants to go to a
vet who tells you you're hurting your .widdle precious? i
think the other part is that some vets really don't *realize*
that what they consider proper weight is fat. after having
been told by a couple of vets that my dogs are too thin, i've
got a dim view of vets on that topic."

--shelly couvrette

"my mom is kinda that way, but not *as* bad. she thinks that harriet is
awfully skinny, so feeding her table snax is okay. she tells me that
just a bite won't hurt."

--shelly couvrette


NOBODY IS STARVING FAT PI.G SHELLY

NOBODY WILL STOP SHELLY ON THE STREET
AND TELL HER SHE IS STARVING HERSELF
shelly's fat face
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette/Wshelly2.jpg
================================================== =====


There are a lot of big fat women on these groups who starve their dogs
out of vanity, but shelly is a special case.

shelly is moor.e than a little bit beyond the pale

Shelly has OCD, and maybe she's just a little obsessive about measuring
out extra tiny and discrete portions with a tiny measuring cup, or
counting out pieces of green bean or pumpkin that she gives her dogs
when they give her the "I'm Starving" routine. When grandma tried to
give Hattie a snack, shelly probably went apeshit, because it was in
violation of her Obsessive need to oversee every tiny calorie that goes
into her widdle precious' mouth.

shelly's a special case, a special kind of dog abuser.


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chardonnay9 wrote in
:

Are you talking about Hattie?

Mikey, izzat you?

What does she weigh? Why did so many vets say you are starving
her? Two cups of what?

Her condition is what is relevant, not what she eats or how much she
weighs. And FWIW, no vet has ever accused me of starving her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAiYUlKuemk

Not that I think you'll get a clue, but anyone who stumbles across
this ridiculous discussion ten years from now will be able to tell
that you are clearly full of ****.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On 23 Jan 2009 18:08:59 -0500, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
I'd not heard that rule of thumb before.

Well, damn. A friend recently published a second edition of
his "Rules of Thumb" book and I should have contributed
that.

But seriously, a common source of diarrhea is TOO MUCH
FOOD. Splitting it up into smaller, more frequent meals is
the ticket.

I've heard a rule of thumb for deep-chested dogs and/or breeds prone
to bloat that says no more than 2 cups per feeding. Since I feed half
the dogs twice a day, it's no biggie to feed them all twice a day,
even the little guys. Dogs look forward to meals; feeding more than
once a day seems somehow kinder.

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On 23 Jan 2009 18:08:59 -0500, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
I'd not heard that rule of thumb before.
Well, damn. A friend recently published a second edition of
his "Rules of Thumb" book and I should have contributed
that.

But seriously, a common source of diarrhea is TOO MUCH
FOOD. Splitting it up into smaller, more frequent meals is
the ticket.

I've heard a rule of thumb for deep-chested dogs and/or breeds prone
to bloat that says no more than 2 cups per feeding. Since I feed half
the dogs twice a day, it's no biggie to feed them all twice a day,
even the little guys. Dogs look forward to meals; feeding more than
once a day seems somehow kinder.


Kinder? The dog never feels satiated when it's fed more than once a day.
This is what causes a dog to gulp it's food. They naturally gorge on a
kill now and then, they don't snack on it.

I know of one person who feeds her dog once every three days and it
works for them. The dog stopped with the food aggression.

Dogs need to feel full now and then to be happy.