Sharon Too wrote:
Nope, not anymore. It's safe to eat less than well done for people and
totally raw for dogs.

I don't know anyone that has had a problem with it.

Because you only see what you want to see.

1. How about words from the guy who actually started the BARF trend in 1993,

The change in the safety of pork happened after 1993.

Dr. Ian Billinghurst, with his book: "Bones and Raw Food (BARF) diet."
http://home.att.net/~wdcusick/raw.html (link pertains to #1 and #2 for
citation)

At his Internet web site Dr. Belfield states: (HIS WORDS)
"As a veterinary practitioner for thirty-seven years and a veterinary meat
inspector for seven years, I, in good conscience, cannot recommend raw meat
diets to my clients. My advice to my clients is "cook the meat until the
redness is gone". When this is done, there is no vomiting, the cholesterol
level is normal, the risk of infection by microorganisms and parasites
diminishes."

Dr Belfield sells vitamins and other supplements for dogs. He'd love
kibble to stick around. If we all went raw he'd be out of business.


2. Public health concerns

That is rather vague don't you think? What public health concerns?


associated with feeding raw meat diets to dogs
written by Jeffrey T. LeJeune, DMD, PhD, and Dale D. Hancock, DMD, PhD. The
article appeared in the November 1, 2001 issue of JAVMA

For a copy you can contact Dr. LeJeune. His present address is: Dr. LeJeune,
c/o Food Animal Health Research Program, Ohio Agriculture Research and
Development Center, The Ohio State University, Wooster, OH 44691-4096.

3. Try the Companion Animal Parasite Council who warns of danfers to pets
and people:
http://www.capcvet.org/downloads/RawFoodWarning.pdf

I just recently posted a link to a study done on raw fed dogs concerning
this very topic and it was found that feeding raw will not make your
dog sick, even feeding less than fresh meat.
http://www.mountaindogfood.com/Healt...almonella2.pdf



4. The FDA:
http://www.fda.gov/Fdac/features/2004/104_pets.html

The FDA is well known for making statements they can't back up with real
studies. The FDA has published draft guidelines to manufacturers of pet
foods that contain raw meat or other raw animal tissues for dogs, cats,
and other pets as well as captive animals that are not pets (such as zoo
animals). The guidelines give recommendations on manufacturing practices
and labeling to protect pet owners and pets from risks involving food
safety and nutritional deficiency.

I'd think if they were so convinced it was dangerous they'd be taking
steps to stop it, not help them with "guidelines".

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
The change in the safety of pork happened after 1993.

I just wanted to see that again.
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(Melinda Shore) spoke these words of wisdom in news:glpnk1
:

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
The change in the safety of pork happened after 1993.

I just wanted to see that again.

She's killfilled, so I never saw it the first time. How interesting!

(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:glpnk1$d3o$1
@panix2.panix.com:

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
The change in the safety of pork happened after 1993.

I just wanted to see that again.

I can't even imagine what she's referring to. WTF? Does that have
*any* basis in reality?

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Shelly wrote:
(Melinda Shore) wrote in news:glpnk1$d3o$1
@panix2.panix.com:

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
The change in the safety of pork happened after 1993.
I just wanted to see that again.

I can't even imagine what she's referring to. WTF? Does that have
*any* basis in reality?


Of course you can't if you didn't read the entire post. Duh!

Dr Belfield sells vitamins and other supplements for dogs. He'd love
kibble to stick around. If we all went raw he'd be out of business.

See, you will twist everythign around to make the results match your agenda.
It doesn't matter what study is given, what expert says waht, UNLESS they
spew your agenda.

2. Public health concerns

That is rather vague don't you think? What public health concerns?

You have no idea. Hope you have no access to small children, older adults or
those with compromised immune systems.

Clueless. Why even bother.

"Sharon Too" spoke these words of wisdom
in :


Clueless. Why even bother.
You are kind. STUPID (in all caps) is more like it. She has reading
comprehension levels of my dog.
Ignorance can be fixed. I think chard is b0rken

"diddy" none wrote in message:

She has reading
comprehension levels of my dog.

You may have inadvertently insulted Tuck. I suggest you make it up to him
before he decides to pack his belongings and run away from home.

Ignorance can be fixed. I think chard is b0rken

Or something. I don't know anyone with even basic reading comprehension
skills that needs to be told that the resident loon is in fact a loon.

Suja

"Suja" spoke these words of wisdom in
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"diddy" none wrote in message:

She has reading
comprehension levels of my dog.

You may have inadvertently insulted Tuck. I suggest you make it up to him
before he decides to pack his belongings and run away from home.
Tuck thinks I mean Reka.. so he's not leaving. Reka is a pretty little thing,
but not long on intellectual affairs.

Sharon Too wrote:
Dr Belfield sells vitamins and other supplements for dogs. He'd love
kibble to stick around. If we all went raw he'd be out of business.

See, you will twist everythign around to make the results match your agenda.
It doesn't matter what study is given, what expert says waht, UNLESS they
spew your agenda.

So it's ok for everyone else to do that and not me....


2. Public health concerns
That is rather vague don't you think? What public health concerns?

You have no idea. Hope you have no access to small children, older adults or
those with compromised immune systems.

So instead of clarifying the vague term you resort to flames again.
Doesn't that get old after awhile?


Clueless. Why even bother.

Yep, you sure are!