No. Of course they don't.

but it feels like it sometimes.

My 10 month old kitten, from the first litter
I fostered when I started working actively in
rescue, was just diagnosed this morning with
FIP. It's pretty much always fatal. Scratch
that. here in the US, the wet form (which she
has) *is* always fatal.

I'm trying to get my hands on a recombinant
interfuron from europe that may offer a 25%
chance of survival...but its tough. And if I
do find it and get permission to bring it in,
it might be too late for her.

Most of the time, animals are amazing because
they fill your heart. But sometimes they just
really suck, because they break the parts of
the heart they filled up in the first place.

Dammit.




I know this is the dog newsgroup, but the cat
ones are....well....scary.

On Feb 24, 3:38*pm, Tara Green wrote:
No. Of course they don't.

but it feels like it sometimes.

My 10 month old kitten, from the first litter
I fostered when I started working actively in
rescue, was just diagnosed this morning with
FIP. It's pretty much always fatal. Scratch
that. here in the US, the wet form (which she
has) *is* always fatal.

I'm trying to get my hands on a recombinant
interfuron from europe that may offer a 25%
chance of survival...but its tough. And if I
do find it and get permission to bring it in,
it might be too late for her.

Most of the time, animals are amazing because
they fill your heart. But sometimes they just
really suck, because they break the parts of
the heart they filled up in the first place.

Dammit.

I know this is the dog newsgroup, but the cat
ones are....well....scary.

I'm sorry to hear that, Tara, and wish you the best of luck (or
whatever is involved) in getting the recombinant interferon.

I sent my cat Seamus to the bridge yesterday a month short of his 18th
birthday - liver cancer. I think I'm going to make a list of all the
cancers that have claimed our animals.

Sometimes having animals does suck. I hope your kitty beats the odds.

Mustang Sally

wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that, Tara, and wish you the best of luck (or
whatever is involved) in getting the recombinant interferon.

Thanks. Getting it is a longshot, and another
longshot that it will even work.

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm
picking up a natural immune support product
called "Transer Factor". A woman in rescue is
presently having some success supporting some
wet FIP kittens with it right now, so she's
dropping some off for me.

Hopefully that will help enough to buy us
some time for the other stuff to kick in.

I sent my cat Seamus to the bridge yesterday a month short of his 18th
birthday - liver cancer. I think I'm going to make a list of all the
cancers that have claimed our animals.

Sally, I am so very sorry. Each one I've lost
has been a totally different disease. None of
them are easy...even when they've lived a
long time, it just never feels quite long enough.

Sleep well, Seamus.

Sometimes having animals does suck. I hope your kitty beats the odds.

Thanks. She and her siblings came to me when
they were 4 weeks old. She was very sick, and
had only one eye. I bottle fed her....and
within 24 hours, I was officially her bitch.
She had me wrapped around her teeny paws. The
funny part was I had never once seen a kitten
that wasn;t adorable....until her. Man, she
looked like a Baby Gorilla had mated with a
one-eyed pirate!

And she's only a baby still. This sucks.

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:58:50 -0500, Tara Green
wrote:

Thanks. Getting it is a longshot, and another
longshot that it will even work.

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm
picking up a natural immune support product
called "Transer Factor". A woman in rescue is
presently having some success supporting some
wet FIP kittens with it right now, so she's
dropping some off for me.

Hopefully that will help enough to buy us
some time for the other stuff to kick in.

I know of some people who swear by that stuff. I think it's got
mostly colostrum in it. I happen to have an unopened bottle of it, as
well as a couple of bottles of colostrum, and would be happy to send
it to you if you'd like. (Long story - I'd read about the possible
benefits of colostrum for dogs with osteosarcoma, and tried it when
our much beloved husky had osteosarcoma. Recommended it to a friend
whose much beloved greyhound, which she adopted from me, was diagnosed
with hemangiosarcoma last fall. She bought a lot of everything and
gave it all to me after he went to the bridge.) Really, if you're
interested, email me and I'd be happy to send it to you.

Another thing that people swear by is Stem Enhance. It's a capsule,
like the Transfer Factor, that's supposed to support the release of
adult stem cells. I don't know what (if any) research supports it,
but I know several people who would provide anecdotal evidence of its
benefits, in horses and dogs, and a friend of mine who had stage 3
breast cancer takes it. It's harder to come by but a good friend of
mine is a retailer so if you want to give it a try, I could have a
bottle on its way to you in a day or so.

Sally, I am so very sorry. Each one I've lost
has been a totally different disease. None of
them are easy...even when they've lived a
long time, it just never feels quite long enough.

Thank you. No, it isn't ever long enough. I was a dog person growing
up, 'discovered' cats in college, and DH always had cats, and when we
bought this house we got cats before dogs. All of our "old guard" are
gone now, with four of them dying in the past 11 months. Three of
them were over 17, but Sammy was the hard one...he died in December at
13. Cancer, all different types. When you have an animal for 17 or
18 years, everything is just so...different when they're gone.

Sleep well, Seamus.

God, I miss him. He was half Siamese and half Manx, with a Siamese
voice and a very outgoing, affectionate doglike personality. Loved to
ride around on people's shoulders, and we have the torn clothing to
remember him by. He loved being picked up and you could hear him
purring next door before you even had him in your arms.

Thanks. She and her siblings came to me when
they were 4 weeks old. She was very sick, and
had only one eye. I bottle fed her....and
within 24 hours, I was officially her bitch.
She had me wrapped around her teeny paws. The
funny part was I had never once seen a kitten
that wasn;t adorable....until her. Man, she
looked like a Baby Gorilla had mated with a
one-eyed pirate!

Heh. A face only a mother could love. That's really, really rough -
a baby you bottle fed. I can only imagine how you feel.

And she's only a baby still. This sucks.

Big-time. Maybe, though, you can keep her going with immune system
support until you can get the interferon. Or maybe you can just save
her with iron determination and lots of love. Fingers and paws all
crossed, sending all sorts of good thoughts, and if you want it I'll
send you that other stuff as well.

Mustang Sally

Tara Green wrote:

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm picking up a natural immune
support product called "Transer Factor".

Actually it's called Transfer Factor and it's great stuff!

chardonnay9 wrote:
Tara Green wrote:

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm picking up a natural immune
support product called "Transer Factor".

Actually it's called Transfer Factor and it's great stuff!

Even now you have to be a bitch?

No need for your opinion, in that case.

On Feb 24, 10:42 pm, Tara Green wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote:
Tara Green wrote:

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm picking up a natural immune
support product called "Transer Factor".

Actually it's called Transfer Factor and it's great stuff!

Even now you have to be a bitch?

No need for your opinion, in that case.

So sorry,Tara. I lost my dog Boo 2 days ago and we can't afford the
vet bills for another dog. We still have Bonnie,another rescue Yorkie.
I would love another dog but the pain and expense have just been too
much.
Janie

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

I know of some people who swear by that stuff. I think it's got
mostly colostrum in it. I happen to have an unopened bottle of it, as
well as a couple of bottles of colostrum, and would be happy to send
it to you if you'd like. (Long story - I'd read about the possible
benefits of colostrum for dogs with osteosarcoma, and tried it when
our much beloved husky had osteosarcoma. Recommended it to a friend
whose much beloved greyhound, which she adopted from me, was diagnosed
with hemangiosarcoma last fall. She bought a lot of everything and
gave it all to me after he went to the bridge.) Really, if you're
interested, email me and I'd be happy to send it to you.

If its still good (as in not expired) I'd be
more than grateful. I have my girl here, and
the rescue presently has two other kittens
with the wet form of FIP (I suspect a kitten
I fostered from that foster's house ended up
carrying it n to mine. I really feel like
I've let Lucy down by exposing her. Hard not
to overthink that).

Was she giving the Transfer Factor *and* the
colostrum? Because yes, from what I
understand the TF is mainly colostrum. But
I've only been researching treatments since
this morning.

Another thing that people swear by is Stem Enhance. It's a capsule,
like the Transfer Factor, that's supposed to support the release of
adult stem cells. I don't know what (if any) research supports it,
but I know several people who would provide anecdotal evidence of its
benefits, in horses and dogs, and a friend of mine who had stage 3
breast cancer takes it.

Wow! You say "had" so I assume she beat it?
Good for her!

It's harder to come by but a good friend of
mine is a retailer so if you want to give it a try, I could have a
bottle on its way to you in a day or so.

If she has a website, I'd be happy to check
it out. Otherwise, I'll email you with some
questions :-)

All of our "old guard" are
gone now, with four of them dying in the past 11 months. Three of
them were over 17, but Sammy was the hard one...he died in December at
13. Cancer, all different types. When you have an animal for 17 or
18 years, everything is just so...different when they're gone.

It is. And the real bitch of having animals
that are age appropriate to each other
is....well, that they all age at the same
time. $ in less than a year would near kill me.

Sammy must have been a bad surprise. That's
still rather young :-(

Sleep well, Seamus.

God, I miss him. He was half Siamese and half Manx, with a Siamese
voice and a very outgoing, affectionate doglike personality. Loved to
ride around on people's shoulders, and we have the torn clothing to
remember him by. He loved being picked up and you could hear him
purring next door before you even had him in your arms.

Damn! Sounds like my old heart cat Ben. Most
social little bean, and thought he was a dog.
God help anyone that tried to tell him different!


Heh. A face only a mother could love. That's really, really rough -
a baby you bottle fed. I can only imagine how you feel.

Yeah. I keep getting flashes of the first
time I laid eyes on her. She used my thumb as
a pillow :-)

I have to believe we're not quite done with
each other yet. I'm at least determined to
get her to her first birthday....which I had
laready decided (based on approximate aging
from the shelter) is also very near to mine.

And she's only a baby still. This sucks.

Big-time. Maybe, though, you can keep her going with immune system
support until you can get the interferon. Or maybe you can just save
her with iron determination and lots of love. Fingers and paws all
crossed, sending all sorts of good thoughts, and if you want it I'll
send you that other stuff as well.

Thanks so much.

I'll be sending you an email shortly.

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
Really, if you're
interested, email me and I'd be happy to send it to you.

Tried doing that.

I'm new to Thunderbird, so I may have screwed
up. Likely, actually.

My email is a spam smorgasbord (and I keep it
that way on purpose), but its valid. If you
email me, I'll look through and grab your note.

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:14:17 -0500, Tara Green
wrote:

If its still good (as in not expired) I'd be
more than grateful. I have my girl here, and
the rescue presently has two other kittens
with the wet form of FIP (I suspect a kitten
I fostered from that foster's house ended up
carrying it n to mine. I really feel like
I've let Lucy down by exposing her. Hard not
to overthink that).

It's still good. I'm sure it's nearly impossible not to think that
way, but or course it won't do anyone any good.

Was she giving the Transfer Factor *and* the
colostrum? Because yes, from what I
understand the TF is mainly colostrum. But
I've only been researching treatments since
this morning.

Right, I bought colostrum for my Sibe because it was much less
expensive than Transfer Factor. I don't know whether my friend the
greyhound owner gave both, but it looks as though she did.

Wow! You say "had" so I assume she beat it?
Good for her!

Well, "had" in the sense that she underwent treatment and as far as
she knows the cancer hasn't recurred. Although actually she is having
MRIs tomorrow because she's had symptoms that could be brain mets. I
guess you don't really beat breast cancer until you die of something
else.

If she has a website, I'd be happy to check
it out. Otherwise, I'll email you with some
questions :-)

She doesn't, but there must be a web site out there with information
on it.

It is. And the real bitch of having animals
that are age appropriate to each other
is....well, that they all age at the same
time. $ in less than a year would near kill me.

Yep. We had this happen a couple of years ago with dogs, 5 in 12
months, and it was pretty brutal.

Sammy must have been a bad surprise. That's
still rather young :-(

With a couple of 17 - 18 year-olds around, I considered him young.
Last summer some moron dumped two 11 week-old kittens in the road here
and our neighbor rescued them. We kept one mostly as a companion for
Sammy, so he wouldn't be alone after the oldsters passed. Now, No Mas
Gatos (aka Ivy) is alone, but she seems to think that's just fine.

Thanks so much.

I'll be sending you an email shortly.

I emailed you.

Mustang Sally