On Mar 9, 5:51*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
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If he served as a trail vet how can he even think of racing dogs????

And who do you think is more credible on this question, a
vet/nutritionist who's been a volunteer vet at the race, or
you?

Think hard! *
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Perhaps you missed my point? If he is a trail vet and see's all the
cruelty, suffering and dogs dieing how could he with a good conscience
even think of entering this race.

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On Mar 9, 5:51*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
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wrote:
If he served as a trail vet how can he even think of racing dogs????

And who do you think is more credible on this question, a
vet/nutritionist who's been a volunteer vet at the race, or
you?

Think hard! *
--
* * *Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

* * * Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Perhaps you missed my point? If he is a trail vet and see's all the
cruelty, suffering and dogs dieing how could he with a good conscience
even think of entering this race.

Just spitballing here but because the cruelty, suffering, and dogs
dieing doesn't happen as much as you claim it does?

Nick

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Perhaps you missed my point? If he is a trail vet and see's all the
cruelty, suffering and dogs dieing how could he with a good conscience
even think of entering this race.

You could be right. It could well be that based on his
experience as a trail vet he's seen exactly what kind of
cruelty, suffering, and all the rest is involved, saw that
there's nothing there, and entered with a clear conscience.
You're starting from a faulty, incorrect premise and
consequently reaching a faulty, incorrect conclusion.

If you decide who you're going to believe based on whether
or not you already agree with their ideology, you're going
to be wrong very, very often, as you are here.
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:14:11 -0700 (PDT),
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On Mar 9, 5:51*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
If he served as a trail vet how can he even think of racing dogs????

And who do you think is more credible on this question, a
vet/nutritionist who's been a volunteer vet at the race, or
you?

Think hard! *
--
* * *Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

* * * Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Perhaps you missed my point? If he is a trail vet and see's all the
cruelty, suffering and dogs dieing how could he with a good conscience
even think of entering this race.

Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

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sighthounds & siberians wrote:
Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

Well, to be clear, 1) a few years ago Ramy Brooks was seen
smacking his dogs with a lath, and he was punished (and
*boy* have the animal rights wackos been making hay out of
that one incident), 2) some dogs have died during the race
but not more than would have died not in the race (i.e. the
number is consistent with dog mortality statistics among the
pet dog population), and 3) these jackasses are
anthropomorphizing the dogs. No surprises there, but the
animals rights crowd typically doesn't know that much about
animals, ironically, and so they're not familiar with
ongoing research into what *actually* happens to sleddogs'
bodies over long distances.
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Mar 10, 12:20*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:

Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. *Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

Well, to be clear, 1) a few years ago Ramy Brooks was seen
smacking his dogs with a lath, and he was punished (and
*boy* have the animal rights wackos been making hay out of
that one incident), 2) some dogs have died during the race
but not more than would have died not in the race (i.e. the
number is consistent with dog mortality statistics among the
pet dog population), and 3) these jackasses are
anthropomorphizing the dogs. *No surprises there, but the
animals rights crowd typically doesn't know that much about
animals, ironically, and so they're not familiar with
ongoing research into what *actually* happens to sleddogs'
bodies over long distances.
--
* * *Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

* * * Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

You people really have no ability to think for yourself do you? Did
you know doctors up until recently would remove your meniscus if it
was damaged? Do you know how wrong that was???? But was totally
accepted.
So all these stories are lies, all the racers and vets probably
because they did not win. Assuming even if they are all liars -the
formers mushers and vets and residents etc- you must have the common
sense to see that it is quite cruel and unusual punishment for the
dogs, This is the 21 Century!?!?!? We do not need to rush serum by dog
sled in the middle of winter to sick miners or whatever.
Just because your dog is not screaming and whining he probably still
does not like the spiked collar you put on him. Just because the
beaten wife returns to her abusive husband does not mean she likes it.
You people should not own dogs or anything for that matter.

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You people really have no ability to think for yourself do you?

Well, I don't know. I've been at distance racing kennels (a
bunch of 'em), closely followed distance racing for years,
and I'm not the one robotically repeating animal rights
propaganda with no direct experience (or indirect
experience) of my own whatsoever. I mean, somebody here
isn't engaging the ol' grey matter but I'm pretty sure it's
not me.

You people should not own dogs or anything for that matter.

Yeah, animal rights wacko crap pops out every time. Can't
hide the crazy.
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Mar 10, 12:20*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. *Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

Well, to be clear, 1) a few years ago Ramy Brooks was seen
smacking his dogs with a lath, and he was punished (and
*boy* have the animal rights wackos been making hay out of
that one incident), 2) some dogs have died during the race
but not more than would have died not in the race (i.e. the
number is consistent with dog mortality statistics among the
pet dog population), and 3) these jackasses are
anthropomorphizing the dogs. *No surprises there, but the
animals rights crowd typically doesn't know that much about
animals, ironically, and so they're not familiar with
ongoing research into what *actually* happens to sleddogs'
bodies over long distances.
--
* * *Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

* * * Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Mar 10, 12:20*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. *Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

Well, to be clear, 1) a few years ago Ramy Brooks was seen
smacking his dogs with a lath, and he was punished (and
*boy* have the animal rights wackos been making hay out of
that one incident), 2) some dogs have died during the race
but not more than would have died not in the race (i.e. the
number is consistent with dog mortality statistics among the
pet dog population), and 3) these jackasses are
anthropomorphizing the dogs. *No surprises there, but the
animals rights crowd typically doesn't know that much about
animals, ironically, and so they're not familiar with
ongoing research into what *actually* happens to sleddogs'
bodies over long distances.

I should have been clearer, as well. I know that there have been some
deaths, and that there has been abuse which was dealt with. I said
"the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of", meaning that the type
of stuff Reginald is alleging doesn't happen.

On Mar 10, 4:40*pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:20*pm, (Melinda Shore) wrote:



In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

Perhaps you missed Melinda's point. *Since he has been a race vet, he
knows that the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of does not
happen.

Well, to be clear, 1) a few years ago Ramy Brooks was seen
smacking his dogs with a lath, and he was punished (and
*boy* have the animal rights wackos been making hay out of
that one incident), 2) some dogs have died during the race
but not more than would have died not in the race (i.e. the
number is consistent with dog mortality statistics among the
pet dog population), and 3) these jackasses are
anthropomorphizing the dogs. *No surprises there, but the
animals rights crowd typically doesn't know that much about
animals, ironically, and so they're not familiar with
ongoing research into what *actually* happens to sleddogs'
bodies over long distances.

I should have been clearer, as well. *I know that there have been some
deaths, and that there has been abuse which was dealt with. *I said
"the cruelty, suffering and dying you speak of", meaning that the type
of stuff Reginald is alleging doesn't happen.

Oh those animal rights wackos! should shoot em all! Of course these
things dont happen and anyone who would say they do is crazy!!
Oh dear, you guys really need more human socialization. You have your
group of "dog people" who like yourself lack any sense of reality and
in order to make you believe you are normal you even add signatures
stating such?? I meet people like you at the dog parks , you huddle
together talk about nothing but dogs yet really do not care about your
dogs you vicariously live through to make up for your own
shortcomings, you are such social misfits that anyone not a part of
your group is "crazy". If you at least showed decency towards the
animals it would not be so bad but you are cruel sick people. I
realize you probably do not know any better because your folks and
their folks were like that but if you really wanted to you could
change. You do not always have to vote Republican or democrat just
because your parents did. Try to look at things a bit differently, try
to get out and socialize a bit it can only help you and your dogs.