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Old March 15th 09, 09:20 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default New Papillon Owner

I'll be getting a Papillon puppy in about 3 months. It was born
today.

What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible?
I know this breed can be very shy.

Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. I realize it's
a very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). I
don't want it get hurt. Should I avoid all other dogs or only big
ones? My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny
Yorkie.

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. What shots will it need? It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. She said she
didn't get rabies shots for her dogs. I think it's a law here or a
vet won't treat it.

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. I want the dog to be
friendly.
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Old March 16th 09, 03:46 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default New Papillon Owner

In article
,
Jane wrote:


What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible?
I know this breed can be very shy.


Buy? You'll need a crate for the home and car, leash, collar, bed,
toys, food, bowls, etc.

Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. I realize it's
a very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). I
don't want it get hurt. Should I avoid all other dogs or only big
ones? My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny
Yorkie.


Paps are not as fragile as they may seem. Enroll in a good puppy class.

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. What shots will it need? It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. She said she
didn't get rabies shots for her dogs. I think it's a law here or a
vet won't treat it.


Of course it's the law. Find a vet. Discuss concerns. Puppies need
vaccinations. How frequently after that is a matter of opinion. A lot
of people put faith in Dr Jean Dodds protocol (Google it).

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. I want the dog to be
friendly.


Socialize, socialize, socialize. Get the puppy OUT, including potty
breaks.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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Old March 16th 09, 03:46 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:20:31 -0700, Jane wrote:

I'll be getting a Papillon puppy in about 3 months. It was born today.

What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible? I
know this breed can be very shy.


I haven't any experience with Papillons, but with my dogs, we've made
sure they have a place or two of their own (crate to sleep in, cozy spot
in the family room), and that the rules for the dog are established and
understood by the *whole* family *before* the dog comes home. This way
you can be consistent from the start; figuring it out as you go along
means that your dog won't know what is expected of him/her.

Dogs need lots of love and affection -- as rewards when they are doing
what they should.

Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. I realize it's a
very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). I
don't want it get hurt. Should I avoid all other dogs or only big ones?
My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny Yorkie.


Size is *irrelevant* when it comes to socialization (unless your dog has
some specific phobia wrt large dogs it must get past). What is important
is that you socialize your dog with calm, well-behaved dogs.

An out-of-control or aggressive dog is a danger, and will teach your dog
fear and aggression toward other dogs regardless of its size. A calm,
well-mannered dog will make your dog learn to be calm and confident
around others, regardless of its size.

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. What shots will it need? It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. She said she didn't
get rabies shots for her dogs. I think it's a law here or a vet won't
treat it.


IMHO, rabies shots are a must. Consult your vet for specifics on what is
best for your specific dog.

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. I want the dog to be
friendly.


I'm a large dog owner (a long history of doberman pinschers and dobe
mixes here), but I have seen good and bad dogs of just about every size
and breed. What I see a lot among owners of very small dogs (one
specific owner of two pomeranians comes to mind), is that they think
their dogs can't be aggressive or dangerous because they are small. It's
simply not true.

The pomeranians I referred to were *horrible* because they did not
receive discipline, and were not taught to be submissive to their owner.
When the owner's son brought his children over to visit one day, the two
dogs were quite agitated at having to share their owner's attention.
They mauled the 2.5 year old, who had to be hospitalized, given stitches
on one leg, arm, and torso, and surgery on the other leg.

Everyone acted mystified at how this could happen, but the dogs had a
long history of disobeying their owner, pulling on a lead, growling,
barking, jumping, stealing food, and other dominant and aggressive
behaviors -- it was just a matter of time until they attacked. This was
100% the owner's fault.

So, my advice for your (and every dog) is to set rules from day #1, and
consistently enforce them with physical correction (it's what mother dogs
do, so it's what puppies are programmed to respond to). Also, small dogs
need exercise, too! I see plenty of unhealthy small dogs whose owners
think they are too small to need to be worn out each and every day.
(Luckily for you, they are generally easier to wear out than my dobes!)

Hope that helps!

--Susan
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Old March 16th 09, 07:24 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Jane" wrote in message
...
I'll be getting a Papillon puppy in about 3 months. It was born
today.

What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible?
I know this breed can be very shy.

Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. I realize it's
a very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). I
don't want it get hurt. Should I avoid all other dogs or only big
ones? My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny
Yorkie.

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. What shots will it need? It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. She said she
didn't get rabies shots for her dogs. I think it's a law here or a
vet won't treat it.

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. I want the dog to be
friendly.


My neighbor has a Papillon he calls "Bug". He and Muttley (80 lb GSD mix)
have met, but Bug is a bit scared of my big dog. There has not been any
problem, but I need to be careful because Muttley could inflict serious
damage even accidentally. Bug is allowed to run loose, but Muttley is
(almost) always on leash. I told my neighbor to be careful because of the
coyote that has been seen and heard in the neighborhood.

I think all dogs (and their people) need to get outside at least once in a
while, so I don't think your idea about pee pads is very good. If you have
to keep the dog inside for an extended period, there are indoor grass plots
that are more natural and are also much nicer than pee pads and other
artificial means of dealing with a dog's natural needs for elimination.

Paul and "BugBuster" Muttley


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Old March 16th 09, 01:50 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default New Papillon Owner

Muttley (80 lb GSD
mix)


REALLY? When did THAT occurence happen?
Muttley has a Rottweiler body and legs if I ever saw one. Except for the
color and head which is something else. But I never saw GSD there.
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Old March 16th 09, 02:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Mar 15, 10:46*pm, Susan wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:20:31 -0700, Jane wrote:
I'll be getting a Papillon puppy in about 3 months. *It was born today.


What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible? I
know this breed can be very shy.


I haven't any experience with Papillons, but with my dogs, we've made
sure they have a place or two of their own (crate to sleep in, cozy spot
in the family room), and that the rules for the dog are established and
understood by the *whole* family *before* the dog comes home. *This way
you can be consistent from the start; figuring it out as you go along
means that your dog won't know what is expected of him/her.

Dogs need lots of love and affection -- as rewards when they are doing
what they should.

Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. *I realize it's a
very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). *I
don't want it get hurt. *Should I avoid all other dogs or only big ones?
*My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny Yorkie.


Size is *irrelevant* when it comes to socialization (unless your dog has
some specific phobia wrt large dogs it must get past). *What is important
is that you socialize your dog with calm, well-behaved dogs.

An out-of-control or aggressive dog is a danger, and will teach your dog
fear and aggression toward other dogs regardless of its size. *A calm,
well-mannered dog will make your dog learn to be calm and confident
around others, regardless of its size.

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. *What shots will it need? *It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. *She said she didn't
get rabies shots for her dogs. *I think it's a law here or a vet won't
treat it.


IMHO, rabies shots are a must. *Consult your vet for specifics on what is
best for your specific dog.

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. *I want the dog to be
friendly.


I'm a large dog owner (a long history of doberman pinschers and dobe
mixes here), but I have seen good and bad dogs of just about every size
and breed. *What I see a lot among owners of very small dogs (one
specific owner of two pomeranians comes to mind), is that they think
their dogs can't be aggressive or dangerous because they are small. *It's
simply not true.

The pomeranians I referred to were *horrible* because they did not
receive discipline, and were not taught to be submissive to their owner. *
When the owner's son brought his children over to visit one day, the two
dogs were quite agitated at having to share their owner's attention. *
They mauled the 2.5 year old, who had to be hospitalized, given stitches
on one leg, arm, and torso, and surgery on the other leg.

Everyone acted mystified at how this could happen, but the dogs had a
long history of disobeying their owner, pulling on a lead, growling,
barking, jumping, stealing food, and other dominant and aggressive
behaviors -- it was just a matter of time until they attacked. *This was
100% the owner's fault.

So, my advice for your (and every dog) is to set rules from day #1, and
consistently enforce them with physical correction (it's what mother dogs
do, so it's what puppies are programmed to respond to). *Also, small dogs
need exercise, too! *I see plenty of unhealthy small dogs whose owners
think they are too small to need to be worn out each and every day. *
(Luckily for you, they are generally easier to wear out than my dobes!)

Hope that helps!

--Susan


Susan - thanks so much for all the good advice.

Jane
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Old March 16th 09, 02:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Mar 15, 10:46*pm, Janet Boss
wrote:
In article
,

*Jane wrote:

What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible?
I know this breed can be very shy.


Buy? *You'll need a crate for the home and car, leash, collar, bed,
toys, food, bowls, etc.



Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. *I realize it's
a very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). *I
don't want it get hurt. *Should I avoid all other dogs or only big
ones? *My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny
Yorkie.


Paps are not as fragile as they may seem. *Enroll in a good puppy class..

The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. *What shots will it need? *It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. *She said she
didn't get rabies shots for her dogs. *I think it's a law here or a
vet won't treat it.


Of course it's the law. *Find a vet. *Discuss concerns. *Puppies need
vaccinations. *How frequently after that is a matter of opinion. * A lot
of people put faith in Dr Jean Dodds protocol (Google it).



Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. *I want the dog to be
friendly.


Socialize, socialize, socialize. *Get the puppy OUT, including potty
breaks.

--
Janet Bosswww.bestfriendsdogobedience.com


Thanks!
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Old March 16th 09, 02:12 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Mar 16, 2:24*am, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
"Jane" wrote in message

...



I'll be getting a Papillon puppy in about 3 months. *It was born
today.


What should I buy to make the puppies transition as easy as possible?
I know this breed can be very shy.


Also, I want it to get used to people and other dogs. *I realize it's
a very small dog (won't weigh more than 7lbs according to breeder). *I
don't want it get hurt. *Should I avoid all other dogs or only big
ones? *My neighbor has a Papillon and another neighbor has a tiny
Yorkie.


The breeder warned me away from giving the dog too many shots at the
vet. *What shots will it need? *It will not be running loose or be in
the woods, but there are lots of ticks around here. *She said she
didn't get rabies shots for her dogs. *I think it's a law here or a
vet won't treat it.


Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. *I want the dog to be
friendly.


My neighbor has a Papillon he calls "Bug". He and Muttley (80 lb GSD mix)
have met, but Bug is a bit scared of my big dog. There has not been any
problem, but I need to be careful because Muttley could inflict serious
damage even accidentally. Bug is allowed to run loose, but Muttley is
(almost) always on leash. I told my neighbor to be careful because of the
coyote that has been seen and heard in the neighborhood.

I think all dogs (and their people) need to get outside at least once in a
while, so I don't think your idea about pee pads is very good. If you have
to keep the dog inside for an extended period, there are indoor grass plots
that are more natural and are also much nicer than pee pads and other
artificial means of dealing with a dog's natural needs for elimination.

Paul and "BugBuster" Muttley


Thanks Paul.

I plan to take the dog out as often as possible. The thing is I live
in a condo. We get lots of snow and ice and when that happens I can't
go out. So the pee pads does not mean I won't take the dog out to
meet the neighbors, run around on the grass or do other things it
needs to do.
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Old March 16th 09, 09:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"diddy" none wrote in message
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Muttley (80 lb GSD
mix)


REALLY? When did THAT occurence happen?
Muttley has a Rottweiler body and legs if I ever saw one. Except for the
color and head which is something else. But I never saw GSD there.


Lots of people have said he seems to be part GSD. He might have some
Rottie. Maybe even some PBT and Mastiff. Maybe I should have the Canine
Heritage test done on him, but it will probably say he is a mix of poodle,
dachshund, and Lab! I no longer think he is part Chow, which was only
because of the purple spots on his tongue. And although he looks a bit like
an Anatolian, after meeting one in person I don't think it's likely.

But his description in his vet records and dog license say GSD mix. I agree
that his body and legs are more chunky than a GSD, but his head has a bit
of that appearance. My other rescue, Lucky, was more of a Rottie mix, and
the bitch that Muttley was hanging out with was very much a Rottie.

Paul and "Heinz 57" Muttley


 




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