Paul E. Schoen wrote:
"FurPaw" wrote in message
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chardonnay9 wrote:
Great post! I noticed the sourpusses are ignoring this one.
Chard, do I really need to explain why?

You should not continue with all the crossposting originally added by
Jerry.


1. It's lifted verbatim from a website that pushes competing drugs.
Follow the money.

http://www.theherbsplace.com/Heartwo...on_sp_104.html


2. It gives no citations to back up its claims.

http://ahvma.org/


3. WTF are the so-called DVMs it quotes? Never heard of them.

Dogpile is your friend.

For Jeffrey Levy: http://www.homeovet.net/

Oh good grief. Not THIS guy.

Our rescue used to use him. I emphasize USED to.

In a FIP group I'm in, a woman just used him
as she was willing to go to any lengths to
save her little one.

He ****ed it up. Again. When the impact of
his mistake was brought to his attention (not
to beat him up, but to ask him to please
rectify it wwhile there may still have been
tome) he got upset that there was a mistake
at all....and then never called the owner back.

Her cat died just a coupld of days ago. He
hasn;t even bothered to call and find out.

But then, I guess if he found out the cat
died, he couldn;t keep pretending that he has
a "50% success rate in curing FIP"

Great way to keep your batting average high;
pretend the vast numbers of failures don't exist.


For Michelle Tilghman: http://www.lovingtouchac.com/tilghman.htm

For Mona Boudreaux: http://www.atimetohealherbs.com/1088654.html


Bottom line: Zero credibility.

FurPaw, one of Sourpusses


Follow your own advice, and keep an open mind:

******* "Don't believe everything that you think." *********

Paul and Muttley

"Tara Green" wrote in message
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Paul E. Schoen wrote:

For Jeffrey Levy: http://www.homeovet.net/

Oh good grief. Not THIS guy.

Our rescue used to use him. I emphasize USED to.

In a FIP group I'm in, a woman just used him as she was willing to go to
any lengths to save her little one.

He ****ed it up. Again. When the impact of his mistake was brought to his
attention (not to beat him up, but to ask him to please rectify it wwhile
there may still have been tome) he got upset that there was a mistake at
all....and then never called the owner back.

Her cat died just a coupld of days ago. He hasn;t even bothered to call
and find out.

But then, I guess if he found out the cat died, he couldn;t keep
pretending that he has a "50% success rate in curing FIP"

Great way to keep your batting average high; pretend the vast numbers of
failures don't exist.

Well, at least you provided a (hopefully) factual reference, rather than a
wholesale dismissal of all the DVMs listed. That is real information, so
thanks for providing that.

Paul and Muttley

Paul E. Schoen wrote:
"Tara Green" wrote in message
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Paul E. Schoen wrote:
For Jeffrey Levy: http://www.homeovet.net/
Oh good grief. Not THIS guy.

Our rescue used to use him. I emphasize USED to.

In a FIP group I'm in, a woman just used him as she was willing to go to
any lengths to save her little one.

He ****ed it up. Again. When the impact of his mistake was brought to his
attention (not to beat him up, but to ask him to please rectify it wwhile
there may still have been tome) he got upset that there was a mistake at
all....and then never called the owner back.

Her cat died just a coupld of days ago. He hasn;t even bothered to call
and find out.

But then, I guess if he found out the cat died, he couldn;t keep
pretending that he has a "50% success rate in curing FIP"

Great way to keep your batting average high; pretend the vast numbers of
failures don't exist.

Well, at least you provided a (hopefully) factual reference, rather than a
wholesale dismissal of all the DVMs listed. That is real information, so
thanks for providing that.


Unfortunately, direct experiences like this
will do nothing to stop people who place
agendas over the actual well being of animals
from presenting this man as a hero and
miracle worker.

Which he most definitely isn't.

I have yet to see evidence that he has
"cured" a single case of FIP (which according
to everyone outside of homeopathic circles
has only ever been cured in a few isolated
studies that have yet to be replicated). He
certainly didn;t cure the one case the rescue
brought to him years ago. But his secretary
proudly exclaimed that he has a more then
"50% success rate in curing Wet FIP".

And yet, no one can find these "cured
kitties" in real life.

I'm pissed right now. He took a lot of her
money, shafted this poor woman, then ignored
her after he screwed up.

While it was unlikely that her cat could have
been saved, had she continued using
traditional treatment methods, who knows if
he could have had afew more weeks of quality
time with his family? There's no way of
knowing, but as it was, she followed his
advice and her cat was dead in a week.

While the rescue I've worked with does still
emphasize homeopathic treatments as an
adjunct (and sometimes even instead of)
allpathic treatments, using him as a main vet
advosor caused enough problems (healthwise)
in the kittens that the head of the group
started emphasizing traditional medicine just
to stop all the losses of life they were
experiencing.

The death rate dropped dramatically.

There's value in both worlds, IMO. But to set
someone up as a guru, when they have no
verifiable success rate is preposterous.

FWIW, I think when someone's primary practice
is treating long distance patients over the
phone, there might just be a reason they're
not doing a lot of work in their own area.
When it comes to vets, I go by word of mouth,
and what I can *see* them doing. So do most
people, I suspect.

So far, the people I've seen who hold him up
as a demi-god have rarely....if
ever....actually used him as a vet. I also
suspect there's a reason for that too. He's
notoriously difficult to work with.

And yes, I'm being especially harsh right now
because I am genuinely furious with how
callously he handled this latest FIP case. It
was almost offensive how he handled that. And
when I told the head of our rescue, she
pretty much said "Yup. That's how he can
often be to work with. We had to find someone
who was more helpful....plus we had to start
seeing more success in treatment".

Paul E. Schoen wrote:
"FurPaw" wrote in message
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You should not continue with all the crossposting originally added by
Jerry.

As I note that you have left in cross-posts, I can only suggest
that you follow your own dicta. I've allowed yours to remain.

******* "Don't believe everything that you think." *********

Thanks for highlighting that. Do you think I highlight it in my
sig file?

About those links - sadly, they did little to convince me that
hanging a degree after one's name automatically confers
credibility on practitioners of veterinary medicine (any more
than it does on human docs). One of the links was even pushing
her own brand of drugs (follow the money), and another was
pushing his services for exorbitant fees (follow the money).

FurPaw
--
Don't believe everything that you think.

To reply, unleash the dog.

On Mar 28, 8:14*pm, FurPaw wrote:
Paul E. Schoen wrote:
"FurPaw" wrote in message
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You should not continue with all the crossposting originally added by
Jerry.

As I note that you have left in cross-posts, I can only suggest
that you follow your own dicta. I've allowed yours to remain.

******* "Don't believe everything that you think." *********

Thanks for highlighting that. *Do you think I highlight it in my
sig file?

About those links - sadly, they did little to convince me that
hanging a degree after one's name automatically confers
credibility on practitioners of veterinary medicine (any more
than it does on human docs). *One of the links was even pushing
her own brand of drugs (follow the money), and another was
pushing his services for exorbitant fees (follow the money).

FurPaw
--
Don't believe everything that you think.

To reply, unleash the dog.

So you post under FurBall when you are poisoning dogs and cats and
under Melinda when you are killing and/or torturing cats and dogs????
Generally when posting under different aliases you would change your
writing style and not have a sig that is so similar. Or have i got it
wrong and there are actually two of you? Are you are now a happy
couple? Have either of you ever had a friend? Have you ever even broke
a smile? Or are you one/two of those psychotic masochist freaks who
only enjoys herself when giving or receiving pain? Have you ever
owned an animal that did not have emotional issues? i am sorry too
many questions, take them one at a time and do please take your time.
I am sure you are enjoying this, your cries for attention are being
heard! Anyhow back on topic, do you find it odd that so many kids
today have nut allergies? 25 -30 years ago nobody did, what do you
think is the cause of that? And yes this is on topic, but I will let
you figure out why.