With the recent warm weather, the ticks have started already. We found one
unattached on Sassy yesterday morning after a walk and I pulled an attached
one off DH this morning.

In recent years, I haven't treated the dogs with either flea or tick
treatments. Because they are so naked, we are able to watch for ticks and
fleas haven't been much of a problem. About once a year, I treat them with
Advantage if we get a flea outbreak that we can't get ahead of manually.

When they were younger, I used BioSpot. However I stopped using it when
Spenser got nauseous each month for a day or two after applying it. The vet
said at the time that he would likely get worse each time if I kept using
it. She also said that other tick medications would give him a similar
reaction so I should avoid them.

I will be at the vet in a couple of weeks for Sassy's rabies shot, so I will
be discussing this with her then.

Ticks are becoming a major problem in our area. Last year, we had to check
the dogs constantly to remove ticks. (And DH too after any walk in the
woods.) Until last year, they were primarily wood or dog ticks so I wasn't
too concerned - plus they were bigger and easier to find before they
attached. Now we are getting over 50% deer ticks.

Is it true that since Spenser had such a reaction to the permethrin in
BioSpot that he will also likely have a similar reaction to another tick
treatment? Is it also true that he will get worse with each application?
I'd probably let him get a little upset stomach once in a while if it worked
otherwise to keep him from getting Lyme's. Obviously, if it's more serious
than that I wouldn't consider it.

Any experience or information to share?

Judy

If you are a thorough tick picker :-) and prefer not to apply preventive,
consider vaccinating for Lyme Disease. And make sure you get a yearly 4DX
test that tests for heartworm, lyme, ehrlichiosis and anaplasmosis (some
practices call it a heartworm test or blood parasite test). Our lyme disease
(great lakes area) positives have greatly increased. If caught early it is
easily and cheaply treated.

--
*The first casualty of war is always truth*
"Judy" wrote in message
...
With the recent warm weather, the ticks have started already. We found
one unattached on Sassy yesterday morning after a walk and I pulled an
attached one off DH this morning.

In recent years, I haven't treated the dogs with either flea or tick
treatments. Because they are so naked, we are able to watch for ticks and
fleas haven't been much of a problem. About once a year, I treat them
with Advantage if we get a flea outbreak that we can't get ahead of
manually.

When they were younger, I used BioSpot. However I stopped using it when
Spenser got nauseous each month for a day or two after applying it. The
vet said at the time that he would likely get worse each time if I kept
using it. She also said that other tick medications would give him a
similar reaction so I should avoid them.

I will be at the vet in a couple of weeks for Sassy's rabies shot, so I
will be discussing this with her then.

Ticks are becoming a major problem in our area. Last year, we had to
check the dogs constantly to remove ticks. (And DH too after any walk in
the woods.) Until last year, they were primarily wood or dog ticks so I
wasn't too concerned - plus they were bigger and easier to find before
they attached. Now we are getting over 50% deer ticks.

Is it true that since Spenser had such a reaction to the permethrin in
BioSpot that he will also likely have a similar reaction to another tick
treatment? Is it also true that he will get worse with each application?
I'd probably let him get a little upset stomach once in a while if it
worked otherwise to keep him from getting Lyme's. Obviously, if it's more
serious than that I wouldn't consider it.

Any experience or information to share?

Judy

"Sharon Too" wrote in message
...
If you are a thorough tick picker :-) and prefer not to apply preventive,
consider vaccinating for Lyme Disease. And make sure you get a yearly 4DX
test that tests for heartworm, lyme, ehrlichiosis and anaplasmosis (some
practices call it a heartworm test or blood parasite test). Our lyme
disease (great lakes area) positives have greatly increased. If caught
early it is easily and cheaply treated.

Thanks for the thought about the vaccination. Does it really work? I
thought they had basically discounted the value of the human vaccine and I
guess I figured that it would be the same for dogs.

We do a yearly test for heartworm and lyme - I'm guessing it includes the
others but I just don't think of it that way. Is an annual test sufficient?

You say "caught early". What is considered early and what would I be
looking for?

Last September, we were at a trial where we thought Sassy was showing some
muscle pain. Since she could find no other explanation, the vet at the show
suggested that we have the dogs tested when we got home. They both tested
clear and Sassy's muscle pain let up in a couple of days.

Our ticks have a spurt of "activity" in the spring and then it seems to let
up over the summer. Then they are back in the fall. The vet at the trial
said this is typical - ticks don't like really hot weather. That was the
first that I heard that but it did seem to match what we observed last year.

We do keep the dogs clipped short - especially during the summer months. In
the winter, we may let them get shaggier. And since they are small and we
have our hands on them a LOT, we normally find ticks either before they
attach or within the first twelve hours. I would prefer to not give them a
monthly medication if it's not necessary. But I also don't want to have
either dog get Lyme - or any of the other tick diseases. We spend a lot of
money months in advance entering agility trials and a dog not running at top
ability is not cost-effective. And mostly, I don't want a sick dog.

Thanks.

Judy

Judy wrote:
With the recent warm weather, the ticks have started already. We
found one unattached on Sassy yesterday morning after a walk and I
pulled an attached one off DH this morning.

In recent years, I haven't treated the dogs with either flea or tick
treatments. Because they are so naked, we are able to watch for
ticks and fleas haven't been much of a problem. About once a year, I
treat them with Advantage if we get a flea outbreak that we can't get
ahead of manually.
When they were younger, I used BioSpot. However I stopped using it
when Spenser got nauseous each month for a day or two after applying
it. The vet said at the time that he would likely get worse each
time if I kept using it. She also said that other tick medications
would give him a similar reaction so I should avoid them.

I will be at the vet in a couple of weeks for Sassy's rabies shot, so
I will be discussing this with her then.

Ticks are becoming a major problem in our area. Last year, we had to
check the dogs constantly to remove ticks. (And DH too after any
walk in the woods.) Until last year, they were primarily wood or dog
ticks so I wasn't too concerned - plus they were bigger and easier to
find before they attached. Now we are getting over 50% deer ticks.

Is it true that since Spenser had such a reaction to the permethrin in
BioSpot that he will also likely have a similar reaction to another
tick treatment? Is it also true that he will get worse with each
application? I'd probably let him get a little upset stomach once in
a while if it worked otherwise to keep him from getting Lyme's. Obviously,
if it's more serious than that I wouldn't consider it.

Any experience or information to share?

Judy

Never known a dog to have ticks here in the UK, and as for fleas, some dogs
attract them far more than others for some reason, we had a Yorkie who had a
bad infestation and was treated with the 3 monthly medication that breaks
the life cycle, she had to have this all her life or the fleas would eat her
alive, all the other dogs we've had have never had any fleas, nor medication

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:38:13 -0400, "Judy"
wrote:

With the recent warm weather, the ticks have started already. We found one
unattached on Sassy yesterday morning after a walk and I pulled an attached
one off DH this morning.

In recent years, I haven't treated the dogs with either flea or tick
treatments. Because they are so naked, we are able to watch for ticks and
fleas haven't been much of a problem. About once a year, I treat them with
Advantage if we get a flea outbreak that we can't get ahead of manually.

When they were younger, I used BioSpot. However I stopped using it when
Spenser got nauseous each month for a day or two after applying it. The vet
said at the time that he would likely get worse each time if I kept using
it. She also said that other tick medications would give him a similar
reaction so I should avoid them.

I will be at the vet in a couple of weeks for Sassy's rabies shot, so I will
be discussing this with her then.

Ticks are becoming a major problem in our area. Last year, we had to check
the dogs constantly to remove ticks. (And DH too after any walk in the
woods.) Until last year, they were primarily wood or dog ticks so I wasn't
too concerned - plus they were bigger and easier to find before they
attached. Now we are getting over 50% deer ticks.

Is it true that since Spenser had such a reaction to the permethrin in
BioSpot that he will also likely have a similar reaction to another tick
treatment? Is it also true that he will get worse with each application?
I'd probably let him get a little upset stomach once in a while if it worked
otherwise to keep him from getting Lyme's. Obviously, if it's more serious
than that I wouldn't consider it.

Any experience or information to share?]

You might try Frontline or Frontline Plus, which does not contain
permethrin. That's what I use on my greyhounds, which can also be
sensitive to permethrin. Well, I use it on all the dogs, and
alternate between Frontline and Advantage on the cats. I mean cat.

Mustang Sally

Judy wrote:

"Sharon Too" wrote in message
...
If you are a thorough tick picker :-) and prefer not to apply
preventive, consider vaccinating for Lyme Disease. And make sure you
get a yearly 4DX test that tests for heartworm, lyme, ehrlichiosis and
anaplasmosis (some practices call it a heartworm test or blood
parasite test). Our lyme disease (great lakes area) positives have
greatly increased. If caught early it is easily and cheaply treated.

Thanks for the thought about the vaccination. Does it really work? I
thought they had basically discounted the value of the human vaccine and
I guess I figured that it would be the same for dogs.

We do a yearly test for heartworm and lyme - I'm guessing it includes
the others but I just don't think of it that way. Is an annual test
sufficient?

You say "caught early". What is considered early and what would I be
looking for?

Last September, we were at a trial where we thought Sassy was showing
some muscle pain. Since she could find no other explanation, the vet at
the show suggested that we have the dogs tested when we got home. They
both tested clear and Sassy's muscle pain let up in a couple of days.

Our ticks have a spurt of "activity" in the spring and then it seems to
let up over the summer. Then they are back in the fall. The vet at the
trial said this is typical - ticks don't like really hot weather. That
was the first that I heard that but it did seem to match what we
observed last year.

We do keep the dogs clipped short - especially during the summer
months. In the winter, we may let them get shaggier. And since they
are small and we have our hands on them a LOT, we normally find ticks
either before they attach or within the first twelve hours. I would
prefer to not give them a monthly medication if it's not necessary. But
I also don't want to have either dog get Lyme - or any of the other tick
diseases. We spend a lot of money months in advance entering agility
trials and a dog not running at top ability is not cost-effective. And
mostly, I don't want a sick dog.

Thanks.

Judy

It's really simple. Don't feed commercial dog food and your dog will
have a much higher resistance to ticks, fleas, internal parasites,
heartworms and most illnesses. And use natural products that won't hurt
your dog.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petallergies.htm
http://www.hartzvictims.org/

Here are some links to
http://search.freefind.com/servlet/f...LL&query=ticks

Here is a link to a common pain killer given to dogs.
http://rimadyldeath.com/

And avoid vaccines like the plague. They cause more harm than good.

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:38:13 -0400, "Judy"
wrote:

With the recent warm weather, the ticks have started already. We found one
unattached on Sassy yesterday morning after a walk and I pulled an attached
one off DH this morning.

In recent years, I haven't treated the dogs with either flea or tick
treatments. Because they are so naked, we are able to watch for ticks and
fleas haven't been much of a problem. About once a year, I treat them with
Advantage if we get a flea outbreak that we can't get ahead of manually.

When they were younger, I used BioSpot. However I stopped using it when
Spenser got nauseous each month for a day or two after applying it. The vet
said at the time that he would likely get worse each time if I kept using
it. She also said that other tick medications would give him a similar
reaction so I should avoid them.

I will be at the vet in a couple of weeks for Sassy's rabies shot, so I will
be discussing this with her then.

Ticks are becoming a major problem in our area. Last year, we had to check
the dogs constantly to remove ticks. (And DH too after any walk in the
woods.) Until last year, they were primarily wood or dog ticks so I wasn't
too concerned - plus they were bigger and easier to find before they
attached. Now we are getting over 50% deer ticks.

Is it true that since Spenser had such a reaction to the permethrin in
BioSpot that he will also likely have a similar reaction to another tick
treatment? Is it also true that he will get worse with each application?
I'd probably let him get a little upset stomach once in a while if it worked
otherwise to keep him from getting Lyme's. Obviously, if it's more serious
than that I wouldn't consider it.

Any experience or information to share?]

You might try Frontline or Frontline Plus, which does not contain
permethrin. That's what I use on my greyhounds, which can also be
sensitive to permethrin. Well, I use it on all the dogs, and
alternate between Frontline and Advantage on the cats. I mean cat.

Mustang Sally



Don't use Frontline! It can kill your pet and cause horrible reactions.

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petallergies.htm

Awesome. It's on the internet so you know it's true.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

elegy wrote:

that'd be my advice too. frontline seems to be better tolerated in
general than the spot ons with permethrin in them.

http://www.cocothebloggingdog.com/20...dangerous.html

Frontline is a poison. It's never ok to use it.

Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petallergies.htm

Awesome. It's on the internet so you know it's true.

I really don't care that you choose to stay stupid.