On 27 Apr 2009 08:52:12 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
Cystoscopy is not necessary for a culture and sensitivity.

That's been my experience, too, and in with some dogs they
can use minimal-to-no sedation.

For cystocentesis, you mean? I've had it done on a number of dogs and
sedation was never required.

On Apr 27, 9:41*am, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Nessa





wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:41*am, sighthounds & siberians wrote:

An experienced vet should be able to do a cystocentesis without
sedataion and with very minimal trauma/discomfort for the dog. *The
sterile sample is then sent for culture and sensitivity.

Mustang Sally-

I'm thinking that maybe this may be a time to call in the old guy with
no personality who is awesome with the dogs...
normally I see him or the middle range vet but we started with this
girl as an emergency and I thought we should not switch midstream but
since I know this young vet since she was 9 years old (i was friends
with her mom a lifetime ago) *I think I can easily broach the *"maybe
we want to talk to the other vet" comment with her.

I think I would. *Cystoscopy shouldn't be necessary unless there is
suspicion of some sort of mechanical problem, and in any case culture
& sensitivity should be done before that. *Are all the vets in the
same practice? *If so, it shouldn't be a huge deal.- Hide quoted text -

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they are all in the same practice. won't be a big deal at all, they
often consult with the other vets.
so i'm asking for a cystocentesis which should not require sedation
correct?

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:



For cystocentesis, you mean? I've had it done on a number of dogs and
sedation was never required.

Rudy needed light sedation apparently. OTOH, when he was getting IV
fluids the other day, he apparently just sat on the table (?) and
chilled, giving kisses as he could. Maybe he just wasn't comfortable in
the prone position.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT), Nessa
wrote:

On Apr 27, 9:41*am, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Nessa





wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:41*am, sighthounds & siberians wrote:

An experienced vet should be able to do a cystocentesis without
sedataion and with very minimal trauma/discomfort for the dog. *The
sterile sample is then sent for culture and sensitivity.

Mustang Sally-

I'm thinking that maybe this may be a time to call in the old guy with
no personality who is awesome with the dogs...
normally I see him or the middle range vet but we started with this
girl as an emergency and I thought we should not switch midstream but
since I know this young vet since she was 9 years old (i was friends
with her mom a lifetime ago) *I think I can easily broach the *"maybe
we want to talk to the other vet" comment with her.

I think I would. *Cystoscopy shouldn't be necessary unless there is
suspicion of some sort of mechanical problem, and in any case culture
& sensitivity should be done before that. *Are all the vets in the
same practice? *If so, it shouldn't be a huge deal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

they are all in the same practice. won't be a big deal at all, they
often consult with the other vets.
so i'm asking for a cystocentesis which should not require sedation
correct?

Yes, cystocentesis, which depending on the vet's practice and Hannah's
temperament should require no or very light sedation. It's certainly
not the same level of "procedure" as cystoscopy.

Nessa wrote:
Hannah has something going on. she was on some very expensive doggy
specific antibiotic (a large brown chewable tablet) for two weeks.
the UTI came back almost immediately (testing positive for both white
and red cells) so we put her on FOUR MORE weeks of said expensive
drug. (on top of the other stuff she already has to take) and she
seemed fine. She's been off of the drug about a week and last night
she started the crying all night again.

this morning out she runs and the behavior is again clearly indicating
a UTI. I'll do a catch later today when I take her to the vet.

All she needs is some colloidal silver to fix her up. Unlike antibiotics
it's not possible to build a resistance to it. However that doesn't
eliminate the source of the infection.

As you can see, if you don't eliminate the source it won't stay away.
It's probably something you are feeding her, like grain.

"Nessa" wrote in message:
I post this seeking comments.... info, experiences, advice...

Has the vet ever done a culture and sensitivity? If not, that should be
done, pronto. What other urinalysis has been done - pH, specific gravity,
etc.? What are Hannah's symptoms (urge? anything else?).

Drinking a lot/peeing a lot (PU/PD) is a symptom of a lot of things, as is
weight gain - Diabetes Mellitus, Diabetes Insipidus, Cushing's Disease, etc.
I would talk to the vet about urinalysis of a fresh catch (first thing in
the morning) and fasting blood work. IF you haven't done geriatric
bloodwork on Hannah before, now might be a good time to get started.

Suja

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
All she needs is some colloidal silver to fix her up.

Don't forget to burn incense!
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
All she needs is some colloidal silver to fix her up.

BTW - are you asserting that it's a fact that colloidal
silver will clear up the infection? That's how you've
framed it ("all she needs").
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On Apr 27, 10:47*am, chardonnay9 wrote:

As you can see, if you don't eliminate the source it won't stay away.
It's probably something you are feeding her, like grain.

she is grain free

On Apr 27, 10:54*am, "Suja" wrote:
"Nessa" wrote in message:
I post this seeking comments.... info, experiences, advice...

Has the vet ever done a culture and sensitivity? *If not, that should be
done, pronto. *What other urinalysis has been done - pH, specific gravity,
etc.? *What are Hannah's symptoms (urge? anything else?).

Drinking a lot/peeing a lot (PU/PD) is a symptom of a lot of things, as is
weight gain - Diabetes Mellitus, Diabetes Insipidus, Cushing's Disease, etc.
I would talk to the vet about urinalysis of a fresh catch (first thing in
the morning) and fasting blood work. *IF you haven't done geriatric
bloodwork on Hannah before, now might be a good time to get started.

Suja

i hate the term geriatric bloodwork... I like to say "she's ONLY
seven"
I got her at 9 weeks... a tiny 10 pound abused puppy...

she has URGE... it's hard to get her to come in she only wants to pee
she's had a few accidents in the house (the first time she had the
infection)
her appetite is good. bless her chubby heart...

hmmm I finally found a food that Harley can tolerate and maybe that's
what's giving her the infections...

deep sigh raising dogs is so hard.