Hi,

It's been a while since Bear left. I have kept in touch with the
rescue group he was adopted from and he is still doing well in his new
adoptive home. Since they are retired their lifestyle works quite well
for him and they're all happy with each other.

We were thinking of getting another dog and I had contacted an
American Eskimo rescue group. Quite the application process. An 7 or 8
page application along with two personal reference checks ( which they
actually contacted) and a chat with my vet clinic. Then they made a
home visit. I appreciate the thoroughness.

While the person was here on the home visit she mentioned that they
had received an email from Animal Control in Bloomington Indiana about
a senior eskie that was picked up as a stray and was going to be
euthanized due to crowding. I asked her a little more about it and she
emailed me a copy of the messages that they had received about him.
They said that he was about 10+ years old and his sight is starting to
go from cataracts but his temperament is fine. They also sent a couple
of photos. The photos showed what appeared to be a calm dog, and very
cute and fluffy. We talked about it and decided to adopt him. Luckily
they got a hold of the animal control people before he was put down
and worked out transportation.

That was an amazing process. I never realized that they had this
doggie railroad going all over the country in legs of 50-70 miles or
so handing them off like little hitchhikers. I'm very impressed by all
the people that do that. Emily and I decided to start volunteering for
transport legs when we have weekends without my stepson at home.

Anyway, back to the dog, we are meeting a volunteer tomorrow in Black
River Falls Wisconsin to finish the last couple of legs of the
transport and bring him home. I talked to the coordinator and she said
she talked to the volunteer that had him the last day or two and the
volunteer said he's an absolute sweetheart and was really glad they
got him pulled. The volunteer also said that they don't think his
vision is impaired more than slightly and he might be somewhat younger
than 10. He sounds really laid back and calm which is a good fit for
here.

I have an appointment with my vet on Monday afternoon for all the
tests, vaccinations, blood profiles, oil, lube, filters etc. and I'll
see what they think about age.

At this point animal control called him Klondike but that might not be
his name. We will see how he responds and maybe pick a new one.

So that's it for now. I'll post more once we get him and have him here
at home.

-Jim & ?

"Jim Manson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

It's been a while since Bear left. I have kept in touch with the
rescue group he was adopted from and he is still doing well in his new
adoptive home. Since they are retired their lifestyle works quite well
for him and they're all happy with each other.

We were thinking of getting another dog and I had contacted an
American Eskimo rescue group. Quite the application process. An 7 or 8
page application along with two personal reference checks ( which they
actually contacted) and a chat with my vet clinic. Then they made a
home visit. I appreciate the thoroughness.

While the person was here on the home visit she mentioned that they
had received an email from Animal Control in Bloomington Indiana about
a senior eskie that was picked up as a stray and was going to be
euthanized due to crowding. I asked her a little more about it and she
emailed me a copy of the messages that they had received about him.
They said that he was about 10+ years old and his sight is starting to
go from cataracts but his temperament is fine. They also sent a couple
of photos. The photos showed what appeared to be a calm dog, and very
cute and fluffy. We talked about it and decided to adopt him. Luckily
they got a hold of the animal control people before he was put down
and worked out transportation.

That was an amazing process. I never realized that they had this
doggie railroad going all over the country in legs of 50-70 miles or
so handing them off like little hitchhikers. I'm very impressed by all
the people that do that. Emily and I decided to start volunteering for
transport legs when we have weekends without my stepson at home.

Anyway, back to the dog, we are meeting a volunteer tomorrow in Black
River Falls Wisconsin to finish the last couple of legs of the
transport and bring him home. I talked to the coordinator and she said
she talked to the volunteer that had him the last day or two and the
volunteer said he's an absolute sweetheart and was really glad they
got him pulled. The volunteer also said that they don't think his
vision is impaired more than slightly and he might be somewhat younger
than 10. He sounds really laid back and calm which is a good fit for
here.

I have an appointment with my vet on Monday afternoon for all the
tests, vaccinations, blood profiles, oil, lube, filters etc. and I'll
see what they think about age.

At this point animal control called him Klondike but that might not be
his name. We will see how he responds and maybe pick a new one.

So that's it for now. I'll post more once we get him and have him here
at home.

Jim:

Best of luck with this dog. I am familiar with the transportation efforts
of another rescue group for Anatolians, and it seems to be very effective.
My rescue dog Muttley is doing well and he managed not to bite any of the
FIOS guys when they installed my high speed service. Now my email and
website access zips along and I also finally have more than two grainy TV
channels. This is my first post with the Verizon news server.

Please post some pictures!

Paul and Muttley

Jim Manson said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

That was an amazing process. I never realized that they had
this doggie railroad going all over the country in legs of
50-70 miles or so handing them off like little hitchhikers.

It works extremely well in my area, where major cities are 3 to
6 hours apart.

Jim & ?

Congratulations!

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Hi Jerry,

I see you're still around. Hate to think you'd be gone leaving all
that bandwidth to waste.... ;-)

Yep, they know all about Bear. They also know about the stepson which
is why they brought another dog with on the home visit. Corey, my
stepson, did fine. As you may not have recalled the main problem
wasn't that he did anything inappropriate to Bear, it was the constant
attention and people coming and going frequently for things like flute
lessons, Cub Scouts, school, being picked up and dropped off by his
Dad. Fairly normal activities but not conducive to Bear's problems.
There were times when he tried to get Bear to interact and wanted to
pet him, got in his face some etc. and ran up to him but that's pretty
normal for an 11 year old. I don't regret the final decision, though I
still miss Bear.

I also discussed the other rescues I've had and, as I mentioned,
filled out a pretty thorough application including a list of all pets
I've ever owned and what happened to them. That took me back.. :-)

AnyHOWE, feel free to repost anything I've put up on here. I'm
completely comfortable with the past and prefer to learn from it and
look to the future.

Take care,

-Jim

Jim Manson said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

AnyHOWE

Please don't enable him.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

"Jim Manson" wrote in message
...

Anyway, back to the dog, we are meeting a volunteer tomorrow in Black
River Falls Wisconsin to finish the last couple of legs of the
transport and bring him home. I talked to the coordinator and she said
she talked to the volunteer that had him the last day or two and the
volunteer said he's an absolute sweetheart and was really glad they
got him pulled. The volunteer also said that they don't think his
vision is impaired more than slightly and he might be somewhat younger
than 10. He sounds really laid back and calm which is a good fit for
here.

I have an appointment with my vet on Monday afternoon for all the
tests, vaccinations, blood profiles, oil, lube, filters etc. and I'll
see what they think about age.

At this point animal control called him Klondike but that might not be
his name. We will see how he responds and maybe pick a new one.

So that's it for now. I'll post more once we get him and have him here
at home.

-Jim & ?



This is very good news, and the way it's worked out, two hard to place dogs
have now found homes.

I have a name suggestion that I think is fitting, Traveller. I don't know
that it particularly fits an Eskie, but it sure fits his circumstances and
it's a fine name with a rich history, General Robert E. Lee's famous mount.
Karla

"Jim Manson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

We were thinking of getting another dog and I had contacted an
American Eskimo rescue group. Quite the application process. An 7 or 8
page application along with two personal reference checks ( which they
actually contacted) and a chat with my vet clinic. Then they made a
home visit. I appreciate the thoroughness.

While the person was here on the home visit she mentioned that they
had received an email from Animal Control in Bloomington Indiana about
a senior eskie that was picked up as a stray and was going to be
euthanized due to crowding. I asked her a little more about it and she
emailed me a copy of the messages that they had received about him.
They said that he was about 10+ years old and his sight is starting to
go from cataracts but his temperament is fine. They also sent a couple
of photos. The photos showed what appeared to be a calm dog, and very
cute and fluffy. We talked about it and decided to adopt him. Luckily
they got a hold of the animal control people before he was put down
and worked out transportation.


-Jim & ?

Good to hear of a Rescue beíng so thorough. He sounds a lovely dog.
Good luck to you both.
Alison

Jim Manson wrote:

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So that's it for now. I'll post more once we get him and have him here
at home.

-Jim & ?
Please do. ITs good to see someone with their priorities straight.

--
Bill Clodius
los the lost and net the pet to email

HOWEDY william clodius you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal an child abusin formerly misdiagnosed
MENTAL PATIENT and shelter / rescue volunteer,

"William Clodius" wrote in message
...
Jim Manson wrote:

snip
So that's it for now. I'll post more once we get
him and have him here at home.

-Jim & ?

Please do. ITs good to see someone with their priorities straight.

INDEED? "Seem" you shelter / rescue volunteers should organize a union?

HOWEDY william clodius you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal an child abusin formerly misdiagnosed
MENTAL PATIENT,


"William Clodius" wrote in message
...


Terri wrote:

(William Clodius) wrote in
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Very, very nice.



Yeah. Too bad billyboy didn't include
his mental heelth case history {}: ~ (


Thanks for sharing those, William.


Yeah. Thanks~!


Peanut may have the cleanest, whitest teeth I've ever seen!


Perhaps {}'; ~ )


Her teeth are showing her age now, but my
youngest does a good job cleaning them.


Yeah. HOWEver, dogs DO NOT need their teeth cleaned.


I love the sweet looks in both of them are wearing in their eyes.

They fool you too then.


INDEED? Oh, you mean like HOWE you an meat terri
have FOOLED your own selves into thinkin you AIN'T
MENTALLY ILL LYIN DOG ABUSIN MENTAL CASES
nodoGdameneD more?


Usually they are good, but Peanut often is bossy,


You mean he's AFRAID, billyboy {}: ~ (


and Smoky can be defensive.


You mean he's AFRAID too, billyboy {}: ~ (


While we have put a lot of effort into socializing him,


INDEED? Despite that his "SOCIALIZATION"
was DONE pryor to leavin the litter box, and that
ALL temperament and behavior problems ARE
CAUSED BY ABUSE, billyboy?


he is noticeably head shy,


Naaaaah?


uncomfortable with some neceessary kinds of contact


Naaaah?


(paws in particular), and a resource guarder.


You mean he's AFRAID and he DON'T TRUST YOU, billyboy {}: ~ (


He has largely adjusted to us,


INDEED?


and the interactions that bring out his reactions
do not come up in casual contacts,


You mean he AIN'T AFRIAD if you IGNORE him, billyboy {}: ~ (


but he is unusually difficult at the vets.


Naaaah?

Oh, hey billy? Those "PROBLEMS" are CAUSED BY ABUSE.


Subject: HOWE Does WON Know? - MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*


HOWEDY Folksies~!


Subject: HOWE Does WON Know??


MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*


Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses.


I think it's only fair that we have an accurate list of
who is and who isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid
any misunderstandings and promote group harmony.


Folks suffering psychotic breaks from reality oftenwonder:
"HOWE does WON KNOW if I REALLY was (or STILL)
ARE PSYCHO, NUTS-O, or just plain old MENTALLY ILL?"


A EXXXCELLENT question, of curse, eh folksies??


The answer is EZ!:


In order to HEEL yourself from MENTAL ILLNESS / stark
ravin INSANITY or just plain NUTS-O you gotta recognize
your DIS-EASE (INSANITY [CONgenital or otherWIZE]) an
DEAL with it.


That's the first step.


Is it any SURPRISE that HOWER DOG LOVERS who jerk
an choke dogs on pronged spiked pinch choke collars an shock
them or spray aversives in their dog's faces are likeWIZE,
MENTALLY ILL?


If ALL behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
(we've PROVEN that), HOWE COME we STILL got people
who still got dogs THEY BLAME with behavior problems?


Perhaps it's on accHOWENT of HOWER DOG LOVERS are
liars, dog abusers, Sadists, cowards and active, acute, chronic,
life-long, incurable MENTAL CASES.


Oh, bye the bye, that's a STATEMENT, NOT a QUESTION.


Here's some additional FREE diagnostic advice *(CAVEAT:
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing,
Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat,
Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard AIN'T a
mental heelth professional practicioner. PLEASE CONsult
your own licensed family mental heelth professional CON-
SELLOR for specific insanity / nuts-o, mental illness advice.


This is ONLY a self heelp GUIDE) {}'; ~ )


When you open your medicine cabinet and see many bottles
of anti psychotic medications with recent dates and compare
those with your schedule of regular psychiatric examination
appointments for reevaluation of your psychotropic medications
you can bet your life, you're clinically NUTS-O or congenitally
INSANE {}: ~ (


Just keepin it real, folksies.


Check Your Status~!


HERE'S HOWE:


If you're STILL unSHORE abHOWET your mentally
ill status perhaps you should DHOWEBLE check.


Here's HOWE.


Look for your picture I.D. card. You may need to ask
your attendant for assistance. If that's the case, you
don't need to continue this DHOWEBLE check {}'; ~ )


While standing in front of your medecine cabinet, compare
your picture I.D. with the image in the mirror and verify
the name and see if it jives with HOWE you think you recall
you may have last identified yourself when questioned for
admittance to the secure mental heelth facility you've
recently been released from.


If necessary ask for heelp. Children tend to be honest
but beware, they may be playful and could mislead you
just for fun.


Then check the name on your picture I.D. against the
name on the prescription medication bottles and LOOK
at the dates to insure they're current.


Be SHORE to take your medications with a little
bit of food and ROTATE your meds frequently.


While a sudden inexplicable remission or divine
heeling CAN happen, chances are greater that it
WON'T HAPPEN in HOWER *(your) lifetimes {}: ~ (


IOW, If you're MENTALLY ILL NHOWE you'll PROBABLY
STAY that way till long after you're dead an buried and be that
way in your next lifetime on accHOWENTA THAT'S your HUMAN NATURE {}: ~ )


KUCKOO!! KUCKOOO! DING! DING! DING! List~!


Michael Further Explains The Mental Illness List
In the past, before Michael fixed things, this was a
way to shut people up and discredit people. Calling
them mentally ill. shelly told us not to even talk
to the mentally ill.


But it turned out most of the people doing the
accusing and finger pointing and "you better take
your meds" etc... were mentally ill themselves.


That's a huge story, and I SCOOPED IT.


MaryBeth for instance, was constantly telling
people to take their meds. Once I started to
do a little research, the floodgates opened
and an amazing story unfolded.


-------------------


HOWEDY Soup,


Thanks Soup.


You'd think your list got 'm covered, Soup to NUTS, eh???


But you ain't.


There's STILL a few loose SCREWBALLS missin.


For starters, you forgot the cutters and sexual sadists, Soup.


Look up susan frazier and looney toons aka laura arlov
an marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog an child abuser PhD
psycho clHOWEN {}: ~ (


If You Ain't On The List, PLEASE,:


YOUR NAME GOES HERE


(please proudly add your name and the drugs/disorders specific
to you, if you are also mentally ill). If we all come forward,
we can help each other with our problems.


Remember, mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of.
It's not your fault if you have a defective brain which may
cause you to act like an extreme hypocrite and/or idiot
and/or robot without your being aware of it).


Also, please notify us if you are *not* mentally ill, and have
been added to this by mistake, so we can make our corrections
and remove you from the crazy person list.


-----------------


You been a UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL CASE all your life, billyboy:


"FWIW I believe I have Asperger's, but that diagnosis only
became common in the 90s, several decades after the time
in life when that diagnosis might have been very useful to me."


BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

wclodius @los-alamos.net:

"FWIW I think of Asperger's as a form of autism, one of
two or three forms of high functioning autism. I would not
say that the only commonality is the diagnosis.

The commonality is the set of symptoms that should lead
to a diagnosis. The diagnosis implies problems in
communication, particularly problems in communicating
emotion, which can be addressed by a variety of (often
related) techniques.

However the dividing line between autism, other forms of
pervasive developmental disorder, and schizophrenia is
arbitrary and beyond that a child can not be summarizeed
by a single diagnosis, or set of symptoms.

FWIW I believe I have Asperger's, but that diagnosis only
became common in the 90s, several decades after the time
in life when that diagnosis might have been very useful to me."