Hi,

I am living alone.

I have been researching various breeds and have been only able to
visit one breeder of standard poodles.

I am also interested in soft coated wheaton terriers and tibetan
terriers. I have not been able as of yet, to visit any of these
breeders, because of distance involved. There are no breeders nearby.

I live in a second floor condo.

Which of these breeds at maturity can stay alone for various periods
of time when I play golf or attend to errands?

I tried to rescue one of these breeds, but there are none available.

Big Rog.

"meteore" wrote in message:

Which of these breeds at maturity can stay alone for various periods
of time when I play golf or attend to errands?

I'd say that just about any breed of dog can be managed in an apartment with
the owner out for lengthy periods of time. Provided the owner spends tons
of time on a daily basis giving the dog physical and mental exercise. That
said, if I had to put them in the order of preference based on what you
said, I'd go Tibetan, SCWT and Std. Poodle. The Standards I've met have
been uniformally wired and more than a little crazy.

Suja

meteore wrote:
Hi,

I am living alone.

I have been researching various breeds and have been only able to
visit one breeder of standard poodles.

I am also interested in soft coated wheaton terriers and tibetan
terriers. I have not been able as of yet, to visit any of these
breeders, because of distance involved. There are no breeders nearby.

I live in a second floor condo.

Which of these breeds at maturity can stay alone for various periods
of time when I play golf or attend to errands?

I tried to rescue one of these breeds, but there are none available.

Big Rog.

Poodle.

Absolutely.

Of the threee, they are the smartest (not
necessariy a good thing tho, as that means
they'll be home figuring out how to unbalance
your checkbook while your playing golf), and
they do require lots of exercise (but all the
breeds you listed require a decent amount of
exericise AND training).

But I've always found them more able to focus
and work with their owners than the other two
you listed.

Just MO

Suja wrote:
"meteore" wrote in message:

Which of these breeds at maturity can stay alone for various periods
of time when I play golf or attend to errands?

I'd say that just about any breed of dog can be managed in an apartment with
the owner out for lengthy periods of time. Provided the owner spends tons
of time on a daily basis giving the dog physical and mental exercise. That
said, if I had to put them in the order of preference based on what you
said, I'd go Tibetan, SCWT and Std. Poodle. The Standards I've met have
been uniformally wired and more than a little crazy.


That is so funny.

My list isn;t the complete opposite of yours
(I'd put the SCWT dead last), but close.

But then most of the poodles I've worked
with (tho definitely not all of them) have
been pretty cool, whereas most of the SCWTs
have been really difficult for the owners to
grapple with. The Tibbies are a crapshoot,
though I think the ones I've been seeing more
recently have been a LOT better than the ones
that were arriving around here for a decade
or so. Those guys were wired for a while
there :-(

"Tara Green" wrote in message:

But then most of the poodles I've worked with (tho definitely not all of
them) have been pretty cool,

Do you think the difference is because you've met them in a training setting
whereas mine have been in a 'free for all' setting? In all these years,
I've met ONE standard poodle I've liked. He was energy personified, but
very well behaved and not obnoxious. The rest have been hyper, unfocused,
somewhere between passive aggressive and plain old aggressive, and just
really annoying. Even with what I would consider clueful owners, they just
seemed to be bouncing off the walls and climbing fences and generally being
huge PITA. Probably doesn't help that one of the two bites I've suffered at
the dog park came at the hand of a Standard (the other was a GR).

whereas most of the SCWTs have been really difficult for the owners to
grapple with.

The ones I've met (not a huge number) have been pretty typical terriers.
Willful and requiring good handling skills. But never obnoxious, and not
over the top energetic. There is one in particular that I would steal if I
could, and I'm most definitely not a Terrier person.

The Tibbies are a crapshoot, though I think the ones I've been seeing more
recently have been a LOT better than the ones that were arriving around
here for a decade or so. Those guys were wired for a while there :-(

Never met a bad TT. Such joyful little guys. Not too terrier like, yet not
a typical fluffy dog. I've met a bunch that do agility, and they were
especialy nice dogs.

Suja

"Suja" wrote:

Do you think the difference is because you've met them in a training
setting whereas mine have been in a 'free for all' setting? In all these
years, I've met ONE standard poodle I've liked. He was energy
personified, but very well behaved and not obnoxious. The rest have been
hyper, unfocused, somewhere between passive aggressive and plain old
aggressive, and just really annoying. Even with what I would consider
clueful owners, they just seemed to be bouncing off the walls and climbing
fences and generally being huge PITA.

My experience with Standards is about the same as Suja's, with the
exception that I've met a slightly higher proportion of them that I've
actually liked, and that it includes Poodles who do agility.

With only a couple of exceptions, nearly every Standard I've met in the last
15 years has had over-the-top energy and/or over-the-top nasty bullying
aggressive tendencies towards other dogs. Some of them have been quite nice
dogs, but all over the place; far too many of them have been horrible
bullies, especially towards smaller dogs. ALL of them have been not what I'd
consider a dog for a beginner.
The exceptions have all belonged to experienced dog owners... and even one
of them, despite being a certified service and therapy dog, is a total
whack-job in the agility ring. A *happy* whack-job, but a whack-job. His
owner says she's really glad she owned and trained Chessies before she tried
owning Standard Poodles.

I'll mention for the OP's sake that I'm not exactly someone who dislikes
high-energy dogs, either; my own dogs in the last decade have been a
Coonhound cross, a Border Collie/sighthound cross, a Jack Russell Terrier,
and a Jack Russell/MinPin cross.