The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.

Thank you!

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Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

Sorry about that! It was supposed to go elsewhere!

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
Sorry about that! It was supposed to go elsewhere!

Rats. It was the most interesting thing posted here in some
time.
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 8 Jul 2009 10:11:41 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Shelly wrote:
Sorry about that! It was supposed to go elsewhere!

Rats. It was the most interesting thing posted here in some
time.

Well, if you don't count the Pet Picture Contest link posted by the
person who has come to give us well-needed veterinary information.

The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.

Coll. Silver would prevent this

Sharon Too wrote:
The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.

Coll. Silver would prevent this



OMG!

In article ,
Sharon Too wrote:
The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.
Coll. Silver would prevent this

YOU WIN!
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.
Coll. Silver would prevent this

YOU WIN!

Thank you very much. I didn't get any vaccinations growing up so I'm
smarter. I have small pox, measles, mumps and the ocassional flair up of
chicken pox, but I'm smart!

Sharon Too wrote:
The third floor public restroom is *not* your private telephone booth.
Coll. Silver would prevent this
YOU WIN!

Thank you very much. I didn't get any vaccinations growing up so I'm
smarter. I have small pox, measles, mumps and the ocassional flair up of
chicken pox, but I'm smart!



How smart is it to put Frontline on our pets Sharon? You do sell it at
that clinic you "manage" don't you?

And did you finally read the info that comes with the vaccines Sharon?
Did you finally learn you don't know crap about them?

This is from the Frontline website:

"Wash hands after use. Do not smoke, eat or drink during application.
Treated animals should not be handled until the application site is dry,
and children should not be allowed to play with treated animals until
the application site is dry. It is therefore recommended that animals
are not treated during the day, but should be treated during the early
evening, and that recently treated animals should not be allowed to
sleep with owners, especially children."

So it's not ok to touch the animal with it on yet it's ok to put it
right on the dog? Doesn't make sense!

Fipronil (the active ingredient in Frontline) is a possible carcinogen
and a potential ground water contaminate. It is a suspected endocrine
disruptor. In animals and humans, fipronil poisoning is "moderate" in
terms of acute (immediate) toxicity. Source:
http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...35768#Toxicity

And check this out.
http://www.sailhome.org/Concerns/Bod.../Fipronil.html

In 1996 when fipronil was introduced for commercial use in the U.S., it
was praised as a safer insecticide because it appeared to target
invertebrates rather than vertebrates.

Fipronil selectively acts on GABA and glutamate receptors. It kills an
insect by disrupting its central nervous system. The mechanism for this
'selectivity' is not completely understood.

Newer research now shows that exposure to low concentrations is toxic to
vertebrates including mammals and humans. The mechanism is excitotoxic.
Excitotoxins cause neurons to become so over-excited that they burn out
and die.

Fipronil has been shown to mutate proteins and to kill human liver
cells at concentrations of 0.1 nM. Using fipronil's molecular weight
= 437.15 g/mol leads to

Calculate fipronil exposure

That is a ~very~ low exposure. Meanwhile, the government allows fipronil
residue in foods at levels 220x to 34,000x higher.

The researchers noticed that the dose-response curve was non-monotonic.
In other words, the smallest doses were more toxic than larger ones (see
hormesis for more about this kind of toxic behavior).

Also, the researchers found that fipronil sulfone, a chemical left over
after fipronil breaks down, was more toxic than fipronil itself.

Fipronil sulfone caused cell death at lower doses.

This study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...b=pubmed&list_...
found that, one day after applying FrontLine to an adult dog, petting
it for just 5 minutes while wearing gloves resulted in exposure of 600 ppm.

Typical owners handle their pets more than 5 minutes per day.

Also, any surface the pet contacts will become contaminated, thereby
increasing exposure. Dander will also remain toxic for a period.
Children and anyone suffering an excitoxin-related illness are at higher
risk. Veterinarians and other pet care providers also have increased risk.

A study on mice found that fipronil poisoning caused excitation in the
central nervous system, leading to damage in nerve cells related to
the over-expression of glutamate transmitters. This is evidence of
excitotoxicity.

In other studies where the animals survived, fipronil

‣ Disrupted endocrine activity and caused adverse reproductive effects

‣ Impaired spinal cord development

‣ Caused developmental delays, reduced brain weight, reduced cognition,
hearing impairment and hair loss

‣ Caused thyroid cancer

And here is the most alarming news of all:

Fipronil is 1 of 16 pesticides selected to be monitored in a study
sponsored by industry and planned by the EPA.

The study set out to pay families $970 to videotape their children after
exposing them to pesticides and other dangerous chemicals for 2 years.

Intentions about the study leaked out, and after more than a year of
pressure the EPA said it would not 'run' the study.

Although the EPA is no longer providing direct funding for the study, it
is being undertaken as a 'private' study by the American Chemistry Council.

Children will still be intentionally exposed.

The study intends to use children from birth to age 3.