New to the group, but I have a large problem. I have a 7 year old Pembroke
Corgi. He has bitten several people, some seriously. He bit me yesterday
when I went to put the leash on him to take him to a spot where he has been
spraying in the laundry room.

I have had this dog since he was a fuzz ball. But yesterday I was ready to
dispatch him. I take medication for an artificial heart valve, and I bleed
profusely and bruise easily. He chomped one of my fingers really good, and
it's swollen and bruised, and will probably be about three weeks to heal.
He sent one fellow to the emergency room.

Do I surrender him to a rescue center? Euthanize? I'm at the end of the
road with this dog.

Steve

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"SteveB" wrote:

New to the group, but I have a large problem.

You've posted a bunch to RPDH, so not totally new, eh?

I have a 7 year old Pembroke
Corgi. He has bitten several people, some seriously. He bit me yesterday
when I went to put the leash on him to take him to a spot where he has been
spraying in the laundry room.

I'd need to read more about the bites and how you approach(ed) him.

I have had this dog since he was a fuzz ball. But yesterday I was ready to
dispatch him. I take medication for an artificial heart valve, and I bleed
profusely and bruise easily. He chomped one of my fingers really good, and
it's swollen and bruised, and will probably be about three weeks to heal.
He sent one fellow to the emergency room.

What happened?

Do I surrender him to a rescue center? Euthanize? I'm at the end of the
road with this dog.

No responsible rescue group would take him. There's more to this story
though, I'm sure. Dogs bite for many reasons. Training (for both dog
and owner) can change that.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
No responsible rescue group would take him. There's more to this story
though, I'm sure. Dogs bite for many reasons. Training (for both dog
and owner) can change that.

Is this the same "SteveB" who thought it was "elitist" to
train your dog and supervise meals and who flung dung at
anyone who disagreed?

Steve, I'm sorry about your health problems and if you are
indeed the guy who thinks training your dog is for snobs,
you're not going to be able to fix the problem, which
possibly could have been avoided if you'd been more open to
some of the advice you received. Unfortunately, in a world
badly overpopulated by dogs and in which many, many really
nice dogs are being destroyed because there just aren't
enough homes, the chances of a biter being placed by a
rescue organization are miniscule, as Janet said. However,
if you've got a friend or family member who likes dogs and
wants a "project" dog, that can sometimes work. I'd start
putting the word out on your personal network. Be honest
about the dog's problems. There's real pleasure in turning
a problem dog into a nice pet and there are people who love
it and are good at it - the difficulty is finding them.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

On 3 Aug 2009 10:36:13 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
No responsible rescue group would take him. There's more to this story
though, I'm sure. Dogs bite for many reasons. Training (for both dog
and owner) can change that.

Is this the same "SteveB" who thought it was "elitist" to
train your dog and supervise meals and who flung dung at
anyone who disagreed?

Who flung dung, indeed. He's the SteveB of Dog Food Plate Height.

In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:

On 3 Aug 2009 10:36:13 -0400, (Melinda Shore) wrote:

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
No responsible rescue group would take him. There's more to this story
though, I'm sure. Dogs bite for many reasons. Training (for both dog
and owner) can change that.

Is this the same "SteveB" who thought it was "elitist" to
train your dog and supervise meals and who flung dung at
anyone who disagreed?

Who flung dung, indeed. He's the SteveB of Dog Food Plate Height.

Yup. Googling found some other interesting posts by him over time.
Lack of supervision is a big theme. Not being able to handle the corgi
for anything is another. Then there's the proud statements of kneeing
dogs so hard (for jumping) that he sends them flipping over on their
backs. Nice thing to do to a corgi especially. The dog deserves a
decent home with an owner who actually gives a damn, but Steve will
undoubtedly blame the dog and decide death is the right answer and all
the dog's fault.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:46:05 -0400, Janet Boss
wrote:


Is this the same "SteveB" who thought it was "elitist" to
train your dog and supervise meals and who flung dung at
anyone who disagreed?

Who flung dung, indeed. He's the SteveB of Dog Food Plate Height.

Yup. Googling found some other interesting posts by him over time.
Lack of supervision is a big theme. Not being able to handle the corgi
for anything is another. Then there's the proud statements of kneeing
dogs so hard (for jumping) that he sends them flipping over on their
backs. Nice thing to do to a corgi especially. The dog deserves a
decent home with an owner who actually gives a damn, but Steve will
undoubtedly blame the dog and decide death is the right answer and all
the dog's fault.

He's made it clear that he things people on these newsgroups are a
bunch of control freaks, at best, so that I really can't imagine why
he would even ask for opinions/advice here.

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
The dog deserves a
decent home with an owner who actually gives a damn, but Steve will
undoubtedly blame the dog and decide death is the right answer and all
the dog's fault.

If you go back to the original post it's not too difficult
to work out what happened. An owner, pissed-off about the
dog peeing inside, tries to leash it and drag it back to the
puddle, the dog feels threatened, hasn't had enough training
to set limits, and lashes out. And it sounds like this
messing in the house incident was a repeat occurrence.

There's still that question about the dog having sent
someone to the hospital, and the *big* question about why
something wasn't done then. Maybe Steve was worried about
looking like a snob.

I guess the big lesson here is DON'T LET SMALL PROBLEMS
ESCALATE INTO BIG PROBLEMS. Deal with stuff as it comes up.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

SteveB wrote:
New to the group, but I have a large problem. I have a 7 year old Pembroke
Corgi. He has bitten several people, some seriously. He bit me yesterday
when I went to put the leash on him to take him to a spot where he has been
spraying in the laundry room.

I have had this dog since he was a fuzz ball. But yesterday I was ready to
dispatch him. I take medication for an artificial heart valve, and I bleed
profusely and bruise easily. He chomped one of my fingers really good, and
it's swollen and bruised, and will probably be about three weeks to heal.
He sent one fellow to the emergency room.

Do I surrender him to a rescue center? Euthanize? I'm at the end of the
road with this dog.


You know what Steve?

When people told you that you had a budding
problem with your corgi, and that it was an
issue that you were letting him bully your
Rotti-mix, you lashed out and called anyone
that said this to you a control freak and
neurotic.

You were nasty and insulting to folks who saw
this coming from a mile away.

Good luck with you problem. Its a real shame,
and it probably didn't have to go this way.

FWIW, dogs don't spray, they pee. (I have no
idea why you would want to take him to a
place he's peed indoors on a leash unless it
was to punish him....which would actually
help teach a dog to do exactly what he just
did to you)

Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
The dog deserves a
decent home with an owner who actually gives a damn, but Steve will
undoubtedly blame the dog and decide death is the right answer and all
the dog's fault.

If you go back to the original post it's not too difficult
to work out what happened. An owner, pissed-off about the
dog peeing inside, tries to leash it and drag it back to the
puddle, the dog feels threatened, hasn't had enough training
to set limits, and lashes out. And it sounds like this
messing in the house incident was a repeat occurrence.

There's still that question about the dog having sent
someone to the hospital, and the *big* question about why
something wasn't done then. Maybe Steve was worried about
looking like a snob.

I guess the big lesson here is DON'T LET SMALL PROBLEMS
ESCALATE INTO BIG PROBLEMS. Deal with stuff as it comes up.

Oh never.

Then I'd be called a control freak!!!

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...

(snip)

I guess the big lesson here is DON'T LET SMALL PROBLEMS
ESCALATE INTO BIG PROBLEMS. Deal with stuff as it comes up.


This is totally off the topic you are discussing but I just remembered and
I'm afraid I will forget again.

I'm holding two dogs for you. You can pick them up on your way to Alaska.
Don't know if you have to go through Oregon but you might as well, it's a
very nice state.

This is Dahlia. Please forgive her questionable parentage. She has a great
nose though, and that makes up for everything. I just know you all are
going to have a great time at the meet 'n greet. It's required.
http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/dis...petid=14248917

Moving right along (!) Romana, also of questionable parentage is waiting
for you. She seems to be a bit velcro with the occasional urge to
escape-nothing you haven't dealt with before. Oh, and watch the cats.
http://209.216.56.60/adopt/detail.asp?animalID=78945

This will be so much fun!
Karla