On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

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Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

A dog that kills a cat is not a killer dog, nor is it psycho. It is
following its instincts. A dog going after a cat is not the same as a
dog biting a human; prey drive is not the same as aggression toward
humans. The fact that you were unable and unwilling to train your dog
does not mean that people who can are out of touch. It means that you
are the one whose ignorance knows no bounds.

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters? I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Well, we certainly know what happens to biters in your house. I have
a blind dachshund living in my house that has bitten me once or twice,
and I manage the situation. Same with my old husky who also liked to
try a bite now and then. He's gone now, but not because of that.

You are a deranged moron.

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters? I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Steve


You are a loathsome and ignorant man, and maybe the last person on
earth to be offering anyone advice on canines. Without using a
micrometer, the difference between you and a Michael Vick would be
impossible to measure.

Gosh, it's been a long time since I've had the urge to say "me too" in
response to a newsgroup post, but I just got it.

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She sounds like the typical stray cat to me. She's learned how to
depend on the kindness of strangers. If I were faced with this
situation (and I couldn't find her a safe home), I'd probably have the
cat spayed and then release her. Otherwise she stands a good chance of
ending up as dachshund chow. She'll face numerous dangers as a stray,
too, but she'll at least have a fighting chance outdoors.




Zip is definitely not psycho. When I described it as cry-barking, he cries
as he barks. We had him at least 2 yrs before he ever barked, sometimes he
would cry. I don't know the things that happened to him before he was
rescued. I suspect he was punished for barking, he was terrified of loud
noises and once I rolled up a newspaper to kill a bug and he ran to my
husband in the next room. He does bark now but when he gets really excited
he cries and barks at the same time. This is the second dachshund we have
had. The first one lived with 2 cats and as I said Zip lived with one until
the cat died of old age. I do not subscribe to the idea of letting them
fight it out, not to pets, not to people.

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a
neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on
the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters?
I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Steve


You are a loathsome and ignorant man, and maybe the last person on
earth to be offering anyone advice on canines. Without using a
micrometer, the difference between you and a Michael Vick would be
impossible to measure.

Tell that to my dogs and my cat. I only wish I was as great as they think I
am. BTW, I don't agree that fighting dogs on purpose is acceptable.
Letting them establish their own dominance ladder is okay as long as it
doesn't go to the point where one is killed or seriously injured.

Steve

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a
neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on
the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

A dog that kills a cat is not a killer dog, nor is it psycho. It is
following its instincts. A dog going after a cat is not the same as a
dog biting a human; prey drive is not the same as aggression toward
humans. The fact that you were unable and unwilling to train your dog
does not mean that people who can are out of touch. It means that you
are the one whose ignorance knows no bounds.

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters?
I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Well, we certainly know what happens to biters in your house. I have
a blind dachshund living in my house that has bitten me once or twice,
and I manage the situation. Same with my old husky who also liked to
try a bite now and then. He's gone now, but not because of that.

You are a deranged moron.

Yes, living happily with my pets, and not dealing with problems of psycho
dogs that I'm afraid of, or are going to kill the cat at any moment, or who
I don't trust a toddler with. It sucks to be me. It's silent at my house
right now, except for typing, Sean Hannity on the radio, and the occasional
snore from my Lab. The cat makes no sound as she is sleeping at my feet,
except to look up when the Lab snores or farts.

Sell psycho somewhere else lady, cuz we're all full up here.

Steve

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:28:40 -0600, "SteveB"
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a
neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on
the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters?
I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Steve


You are a loathsome and ignorant man, and maybe the last person on
earth to be offering anyone advice on canines. Without using a
micrometer, the difference between you and a Michael Vick would be
impossible to measure.

Tell that to my dogs and my cat.

You mean the ones you haven't killed yet?

I only wish I was as great as they think I am.

In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

How great do you think the dog (and maybe others) you recently killed
would think you are?

BTW, I don't agree that fighting dogs on purpose is acceptable.

But that's essentially the advice you gave the dachshund owner - to
let them fight it out. To the death, presumably.

Letting them establish their own dominance ladder is okay as long as it
doesn't go to the point where one is killed or seriously injured.

Steve

You didn't mention that last part before. Why not? In my opinion, you
didn't mention it because you just don't care. Reinforcing my opinion
of you as a loathsome and ignorant little man. For the sake of dogs
and cats everywhere, at least stop offering "advice." If you really
want to do something to help dogs and cats (a thought I'm not willing
to entertain at this point), go down to your local shelter and lend a
hand. You might actually learn something there, and then you wouldn't
always sound like such a bloodthirsty moron.

On Sep 21, 4:34*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Yes, living happily with my pets, and not dealing with problems of psycho
dogs that I'm afraid of, or are going to kill the cat at any moment, or who
I don't trust a toddler with. *It sucks to be me. *It's silent at my house
right now, except for typing, Sean Hannity on the radio, and the occasional
snore from my Lab. *The cat makes no sound as she is sleeping at my feet,
except to look up when the Lab snores or farts.

It sure sucked to be your Corgi.

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:28:40 -0600, "SteveB"
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:59 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


What I'd do, any way.

I really hope there isn't anyone reading who would listen to this
asshole/troll. A Dachshund can kill a cat in very short order. I'd
work on finding the cat a permanent home elsewhere.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Yeah, and keep a killer dog around. So, next time, it can kill a
neighbor's
cat. Or a kitten who wanders in. Or some puppy. A dog who is being
trained that if you don't like something, you kill it, and there's no
punishment. You guys are really out of touch. Keep a psycho dog
around,
and then let them get face to face with a toddler in the family. "But
it
really wasn't Frieda's fault. Little Johnny shouldn't have been down on
the
floor with the dog. It's Johnny's fault."

Every dachshund I've seen is a biter. You know what happens to biters?
I'd
find another home for the psycho doxie or make fertilizer out of it.

Steve


You are a loathsome and ignorant man, and maybe the last person on
earth to be offering anyone advice on canines. Without using a
micrometer, the difference between you and a Michael Vick would be
impossible to measure.

Tell that to my dogs and my cat.

You mean the ones you haven't killed yet?

I only wish I was as great as they think I am.

In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

How great do you think the dog (and maybe others) you recently killed
would think you are?

BTW, I don't agree that fighting dogs on purpose is acceptable.

But that's essentially the advice you gave the dachshund owner - to
let them fight it out. To the death, presumably.

Letting them establish their own dominance ladder is okay as long as it
doesn't go to the point where one is killed or seriously injured.

Steve

You didn't mention that last part before. Why not? In my opinion, you
didn't mention it because you just don't care. Reinforcing my opinion
of you as a loathsome and ignorant little man. For the sake of dogs
and cats everywhere, at least stop offering "advice." If you really
want to do something to help dogs and cats (a thought I'm not willing
to entertain at this point), go down to your local shelter and lend a
hand. You might actually learn something there, and then you wouldn't
always sound like such a bloodthirsty moron.

I left a $50 donation in addition of the adoption costs for the dog I got to
replace the Corgi.

Steve

"SteveB" wrote:
I left a $50 donation in addition of the adoption costs for the dog I
got to replace the Corgi.

Thereby embodying the phrase "more money than sense."

Is blood money supposed to impress us?

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"SteveB" wrote:
I left a $50 donation in addition of the adoption costs for the dog I
got to replace the Corgi.

Thereby embodying the phrase "more money than sense."

Is blood money supposed to impress us?

I'm sorry you weren't following the conversation, either that, or don't
have the synapses to grasp what was said. Some railing bitch asked why I
didn't volunteer time at an animal shelter. I said I made a donation
instead. Shelters would fail if they only had volunteers.

Did you get it that time, Sparky?

No?

And for the rest of you, or those who don't know what is going on, I put
down a Corgi who had bitten six people, myself four or five times, the last
taking two months to heal and very nearly breaking a finger. He sent one
person to the emergency room. He was unable to be trusted around my
grandchildren. He would not play with children, and had to be isolated
whenever any came over, sometimes up to eight children. His answer to most
situations was aggression and vicious hard biting. I wrote in and asked for
some help, and got lectured on a previous issue, but very little help with
what to do with the dog. A Corgi rescue center in my state refused to take
him. A shelter would have euthanized him because of his history of biting,
and I wasn't going to lie so that someone would find out the hard way he was
a biter. So, rather than being bitten again, I put him down. Hard to do
after nearly seven years, but I was thinking of it yesterday, and at least
now, the kids can play with the new dog and I don't have to worry. And I
don't have to put up with his snarling and biting when I just want him to
get out of the bathroom so I can mop, which was typical of our
confrontations. He pissed everywhere, and now it's nice not to have the
carpets cleaned every month and smelling skanky mall dog **** while I'm
eating. He had a dog door, and was let out, or the door was open, as we
live on a ranch.

I got a small tan terrier mix dog about a year old at the pound. She is a
doll, and seems to come every day and get in my lap and say, "Oh, thank you
thank you thank you for getting me out of that terrible place." She follows
orders pretty well, and hasn't growled or snapped yet. She likes to come
and watch TV with me, but falls asleep before the commercials. Very
different from a dog that I was afraid of and everyone else just tolerated.
I guess I could have let him bite one of the kids. Then either my LEO
daughter or SIL would have taken him out and put an end to him. But rather
than put the kids through that trauma and scarring, I just did it myself.
There are some lovely sunflowers over his grave, and the simple marker he
earned.

So, some of the keep a dog at any price people here have taken offense at
me. I did what I did, and I didn't like it. I would have liked less to
take one of the kids to the ER, or to have to go there myself. I take
coumadin, and getting bitten by a dog is a bloody mess in my house for me.

I like it that each person gets to choose what they want to do with THEIR
pet.

It will soon be time to put the Lab down because of lymph node infection and
immune system issues. Or should I just keep giving her pain pills and let
her suffer so that I can "enjoy" her company no matter what the cost or the
pain involved for her? I know my answer, but I don't care about yours. I
saw Marley and Me, a sad dog story, and I got from that the dog will let me
know when it is time. So far, she's on prednisone, and not 100%, but still
functioning and having a decent quality of life.

HTH, but I doubt it, for those who would put up with a dangerous dog with a
bad history and have it around very small children.

Steve