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Old March 13th 10, 06:56 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Canine Food Allergies

What are the most common food allergies for
dogs? I have a very itchy dog and I'm wondering
if she has a food allergy. She mostly gets
Purina ONE, either "weight management" or
the mature dog formula.

Thanks in advance.

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Old March 13th 10, 01:57 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 3/13/2010 12:56 AM, Suzie-Q wrote:
What are the most common food allergies for
dogs? I have a very itchy dog and I'm wondering
if she has a food allergy. She mostly gets
Purina ONE, either "weight management" or
the mature dog formula.

Thanks in advance.


The most common food allergies for dogs are grains. Go grain free and
chances are great that the itching will stop. The weight management
kibbles are especially not good for dogs.

Try switching to grain free canned dog foods like Wellness or better yet
switch to a species appropriate diet of real meat, bones and organ
meats. Grain free commercial foods can be very expensive compared to
feeding raw and of course no kibble is as good as the real thing.

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html
http://www.rawfed.com/myths/

Char


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Old March 13th 10, 06:39 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Canine Food Allergies

"Suzie-Q" wrote

What are the most common food allergies for
dogs? I have a very itchy dog and I'm wondering
if she has a food allergy. She mostly gets
Purina ONE, either "weight management" or
the mature dog formula.


Hi Suzie,

I did a little googling and here's a sample of what's on the web from vet
studies. They come with references. Basically dogs can develop allergies
to foods just like people do. You may find the simplest answer is the best
one here. Read the label on the bags you get now, and try a version with a
different mix. For example, if the one you use now has soy in it, try a soy
free version of another brand.

http://www.peteducation.com/article....2+1664&aid=143

http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medica...allergies.html

We are watching Chester this weekend and he doesnt get along with eggs or
soy. Joe brought over his food with him (and favorite bowl, water dish,
some stuff like that). He's on the Avoderm Lite (they put some in a coffee
tin so I asked Joe what it was).

http://dogs.about.com/cs/dietandnutr...oderm_lite.htm

Here's another link to dog foods with description of ingredients. The
search was: soy-free dog foods.

http://dogs.about.com/cs/dietandnutr.../corn_free.htm

Iams also has a series of foods just for this.

Hope it helps!


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Old March 13th 10, 07:46 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 3/13/2010 12:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
"Suzie-Q" wrote

What are the most common food allergies for
dogs? I have a very itchy dog and I'm wondering
if she has a food allergy. She mostly gets
Purina ONE, either "weight management" or
the mature dog formula.


Hi Suzie,

I did a little googling and here's a sample of what's on the web from
vet studies. They come with references. Basically dogs can develop
allergies to foods just like people do. You may find the simplest answer
is the best one here. Read the label on the bags you get now, and try a
version with a different mix. For example, if the one you use now has
soy in it, try a soy free version of another brand.


When most kibble has 30-50 ingredients that isn't easy to do. It could
be any number of ingredients or more than one. That is why feeding raw
is so great for allergy plagued pets. There is but one ingredient in a
meal.


http://www.peteducation.com/article....2+1664&aid=143


This link recommends feeding one protein and one carbohydrate source.
The problem with that is dogs have no carb requirement and don't need
them at all. In my extensive experience it is highly likely that an
allergy is from a carb and specifically from grains. Behind that would
be a protein allergy, also easy to discover if feeding just one source
of protein.

Also keep in mind that this article was written by a company that sells
dog and cat supplies and would love you to buy their products. IOW, it's
not a neutral article.


http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medica...allergies.html


This article says "The most common medical complaint we see in dogs is
skin or ear related. Unlike humans who react to allergens with nasal
symptoms, dogs react with skin problems. These problems may range from
poor coat texture or length, to itching and chewing, to hot spots and
self mutilation. Allergies may also play a part in chronic ear
infections. To make matters more difficult to diagnose and treat,
thyroid disease may add to the problem as well."

Keep in mind that the most common food bought for pets is kibble and
that changing over to a species appropriate diet almost always cures the
problem. Dogs were not meant to eat large amounts of grains and that is
the most common ingredient in kibble.

This article was taken from a book written by Lowell Ackerman who makes
a living writing books and giving lectures, not by actually treating
pets or by participating in science.


We are watching Chester this weekend and he doesnt get along with eggs
or soy. Joe brought over his food with him (and favorite bowl, water
dish, some stuff like that). He's on the Avoderm Lite (they put some in
a coffee tin so I asked Joe what it was).

http://dogs.about.com/cs/dietandnutr...oderm_lite.htm


Which has flax seed oil in it, another common ingredient that causes
allergies. Dogs need animal based oils in their diets, not plant based
oils. It also has rosemary in it which is strongly linked to seizures
and allergic reactions. It is also chock full of carbs like brown rice,
oats, rice bran, alfalfa, all not species appropriate.


Here's another link to dog foods with description of ingredients. The
search was: soy-free dog foods.

http://dogs.about.com/cs/dietandnutr.../corn_free.htm


Which says exactly what I was saying. "Corn, soy, and wheat are three of
the biggest culprits as far as food allergies in dogs go, and finding a
brand of dry dog food that is free of these ingredients can be tricky."

Actually it's not so tricky. Stop feeding kibble!


Iams also has a series of foods just for this.


And is well known to cause allergies.
http://www.arescuemom.org/Eukanuba,IamsDogFood.html

Much worse than that, this company has been guilty of horrible lab
experiments that you can read about here.

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm
IAMS/Eukanuba's experiments on hundreds of animals caused kidney
failure, obesity, malnutrition, liver damage, severe allergic reactions,
stomach inflammation, diarrhoea, severe skin disorders, lesions, skin
wounds and other painful illnesses.

Our exposé became a front page story in the Daily Express, and the
embarrassment forced IAMS/Eukanuba and their parent company, Procter &
Gamble (P&G), to claim that they would stop lethal tests on cats and
dogs in their new 'research policy.'

However, in 2003 IAMS/Eukanuba were exposed again - dogs kept in
shocking condition had been force-fed vegetable oil, had chunks of
muscle removed from their thighs, and been 'de-barked' by having their
voice-boxes cut out in a painful and bloody procedure. The damning
evidence confirmed IAMS' 'research policy' to be nothing more than a sham.


Hope it helps!




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Old March 14th 10, 09:39 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Char wrote:

.........It could be any number of ingredients or more than one. .......


lol

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Old April 16th 10, 06:58 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 3/14/2010 3:39 PM, Phil L wrote:
Char wrote:

........It could be any number of ingredients or more than one. .......


lol

My dog is 12 years old and has been on a pea and
brown rice diet or a pea and corn diet for most of
his life. Over the years he has developed an
allergy but given its seasonal nature (bad in
August and gone
after the first freeze) the allergy did not appear
to be food related. But his current licking of
paws appears to
be season-round behavior.

I asked his veterinary nutritionist how long one must
withhold a food until it clears his system. Her
response:
three months!


--Marshall

PS: My dog has been on the above diet so as to
reduce the level of oxalate in his food an so
avoid recurrent
oxalate bladder stones.

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On 4/16/2010 1:58 AM, Marshall Lev Dermer wrote:
On 3/14/2010 3:39 PM, Phil L wrote:
Char wrote:

........It could be any number of ingredients or more than one. .......


lol

My dog is 12 years old and has been on a pea and brown rice diet or a
pea and corn diet for most of his life.


Yuk! Your dog is a carnivore. I'm surprised you haven't had problems
long ago with malnutrition.

Over the years he has developed
an allergy but given its seasonal nature (bad in August and gone
after the first freeze) the allergy did not appear to be food related.
But his current licking of paws appears to
be season-round behavior.


Licking paws is a sign of a yeast problem (candida). Feeding foods high
in sugars will do that. That includes many vegetables.


I asked his veterinary nutritionist how long one must
withhold a food until it clears his system. Her response:
three months!


I don't agree that it is three months. You can usually tell if a food is
causing a problem in a few weeks.

Char



--Marshall

PS: My dog has been on the above diet so as to reduce the level of
oxalate in his food an so avoid recurrent
oxalate bladder stones.

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Old April 18th 10, 02:40 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, Char wrote:
On 4/16/2010 1:58 AM, Marshall Lev Dermer wrote:
On 3/14/2010 3:39 PM, Phil L wrote:
Char wrote:

........It could be any number of ingredients or more than one. .......


lol

My dog is 12 years old and has been on a pea and brown rice diet or a
pea and corn diet for most of his life.


Yuk! Your dog is a carnivore. I'm surprised you haven't had problems
long ago with malnutrition.


"Your dog is a carnivore" ?

But, I just wrote that my dog is on a pea and
brown rice diet.

"I'm surprised you haven't had problems long ago
with malnutrition."

I thought this group was about canine health.

--M

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Old April 18th 10, 08:27 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 4/17/2010 9:40 PM, Marshall Lev Dermer wrote:
On 4/16/2010 8:21 AM, Char wrote:
On 4/16/2010 1:58 AM, Marshall Lev Dermer wrote:
On 3/14/2010 3:39 PM, Phil L wrote:
Char wrote:

........It could be any number of ingredients or more than one. .......


lol

My dog is 12 years old and has been on a pea and brown rice diet or a
pea and corn diet for most of his life.


Yuk! Your dog is a carnivore. I'm surprised you haven't had problems
long ago with malnutrition.


"Your dog is a carnivore" ?

But, I just wrote that my dog is on a pea and brown rice diet.


Exactly! So why are you feeding a carnivore peas and rice?


"I'm surprised you haven't had problems long ago with malnutrition."

I thought this group was about canine health.


Then you thought right. What is your confusion about?
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Old April 18th 10, 04:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Marshall Lev Dermer" wrote

My dog is 12 years old and has been on a pea and brown rice diet or a
pea and corn diet for most of his life.


I thought this group was about canine health.


Marshall, I gather the special diet was due to a medical need of his. That
means it might be best to go to the Vet on this one. Phone call may work
even (depends on the vet). It may be that the pooch has *developed* an
allergy to one of the components in that special diet. Although neither I
nor my husband have experienced that with any of our various dogs/cats, it's
actually pretty well represented on various web sites.

There you'll find lists of more common things for dogs to develop an allergy
to. Corn, Wheat, and Rice I have seen on those lists. I don't recall peas
but that may be just my memory. If that is the case, you'll need to switch
out what seems to be the likely offender and sub in something else yor dog
is allowed to have.

It looked from the bit I saw in the thread, like meat was to be avoided (or
perhaps reduced) due to his condition? If that's not true, then Raw feeding
may actually be a good thing. There's folks who can explain it better and
won't be mean or anything about it and won't suggest you ignore your Vet's
advice. Let meknow. (PS: it's not me, and I asked my vet about it
yesterday. He said it's a good diet if followed *correctly* and the main
problem is folks not doing it right).


 




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