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Old May 11th 10, 06:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"starcat" said in
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Paul has rescued Muttley, which is great, that's true. But
I suspect all of us here have done the same many times.


Not me, though I've taken in rescued dogs and have adopted
rescued dogs.

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Old May 11th 10, 07:37 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"starcat" said in
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Paul has rescued Muttley, which is great, that's true. But
I suspect all of us here have done the same many times.


Not me, though I've taken in rescued dogs and have adopted
rescued dogs.


The end result is about the same. Actually my friend Helene initiated the
rescue of Muttley, and many others were also involved after he was taken to
the BARCS shelter and elsewhere. But I took him in, even though I was not
prepared to do so, and I'm glad I did.

Paul and Muttley

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Old May 11th 10, 02:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 11 May 2010 05:49:08 GMT, Rocky wrote:

"starcat" said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Paul has rescued Muttley, which is great, that's true. But
I suspect all of us here have done the same many times.


Not me, though I've taken in rescued dogs and have adopted
rescued dogs.


There is a definite difference, though one wouldn't think so to hear
all the people who say they've "rescued a greyhound". I've been
contacted by people who were referred by our adopters, and been
surprised to learn that those adopters described themselves as "active
with greyhound rescue". (These are people who adopted a dog and might
show up at the reunion but never foster or help in other ways.) My
favorite is the former owner of my current rescue Borzoi who, when
Animal Control seized the dogs, told AC that she sometimes helped with
Borzoi rescue. The Borzoi rescue director informed AC that that was
not the case, but now that I think about it, maybe the woman meant she
helped Borzoi rescue by supplying neglected and abused dogs?

This might seem like a question of semantics and the definition of
"rescue". Greyhound racing advocates don't like to see groups use the
term "rescue" because, they say, these days most greyhounds aren't in
danger of being put down when they're finished racing. In reality,
that depends on what track they're racing at, and who their owner is.
In any event, when greyhound rescue got started, the great majority of
greyhounds *were* in danger of being put down at the end of their
careers. Many - too many - still are. And greyhound rescue groups,
not the racing industry, still raise 95% or more of the funds
necessary to operate; many groups don't get a penny from anybody.
Most greyhound groups have taken dogs that would otherwise have died,
regardless of the source. So it's rescue in my book.

Describing a dog that was adopted from a rescue group as a dog one has
rescued is about ego, as is constantly telling people that you saved a
dog's life when that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
There's nothing wrong with feeling good about saving a dog's life.
Even if that's the motivation for doing it, there's nothing wrong with
it as long as the dog is well cared-for. doG knows there are plenty
enough rescue people who are in it because of their egos. But such
people shouldn't be surprised when they're called on it.

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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 20:03:58 -0400, Dogman wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:40:05 -0400, sighthounds & siberians
wrote:

Do you really think you're the only person who's ever
rescued a dog?

Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?


Not always.

Question: What is the average amount of time it takes Schoen, after he
first meets someone, to tell him/her that he rescued Muttley?

1. 1.0 seconds

2. .5 seconds

3. .05 seconds


I'll pick door #3, and sometimes it doesn't take that long. And not
just "rescued" - "saved his life". Which is all fine and good, but
that's where the responsibility starts, not where it ends.


When I take in a cat or dog from the pound, alongside the road, abandoned
by some cruel apartment owner when they move and don't take their pet with
them - for all intents and purposes I have given them a chance at life.
I've saved them or rescued them, I suppose. But I never look at it that
way. I prefer to think of all they've given me in return and how much
richer my life is for having known them.

My first dog came along at a time when I was in a very bad place. She
gave me something to focus on, another living creature to love and be
responsible for. In short, she rescued me - saved my life - not the other
way around.

We get far more from our loving pets than they ever ask of us, so by
"rescuing" them, they really do us the favor of enriching our lives.

Paul has rescued Muttley, which is great, that's true. But I suspect all
of us here have done the same many times.

Murphy has a playdate buddy -- Bella the IG/terrier mix. We had a Pet Expo
here a couple of weeks ago, and Bella's mom Nancy got a t-shirt that reads
"I rescued my best friend". But she got a matching one for Bella.

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On 11 May 2010 05:49:08 GMT, Rocky wrote:


There is a definite difference, though one wouldn't think so to hear
all the people who say they've "rescued a greyhound". I've been
contacted by people who were referred by our adopters, and been
surprised to learn that those adopters described themselves as "active
with greyhound rescue". (These are people who adopted a dog and might
show up at the reunion but never foster or help in other ways.) My
favorite is the former owner of my current rescue Borzoi who, when
Animal Control seized the dogs, told AC that she sometimes helped with
Borzoi rescue. The Borzoi rescue director informed AC that that was
not the case, but now that I think about it, maybe the woman meant she
helped Borzoi rescue by supplying neglected and abused dogs?

This might seem like a question of semantics and the definition of
"rescue". Greyhound racing advocates don't like to see groups use the
term "rescue" because, they say, these days most greyhounds aren't in
danger of being put down when they're finished racing. In reality,
that depends on what track they're racing at, and who their owner is.
In any event, when greyhound rescue got started, the great majority of
greyhounds *were* in danger of being put down at the end of their
careers. Many - too many - still are. And greyhound rescue groups,
not the racing industry, still raise 95% or more of the funds
necessary to operate; many groups don't get a penny from anybody.
Most greyhound groups have taken dogs that would otherwise have died,
regardless of the source. So it's rescue in my book.

Describing a dog that was adopted from a rescue group as a dog one has
rescued is about ego, as is constantly telling people that you saved a
dog's life when that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
There's nothing wrong with feeling good about saving a dog's life.
Even if that's the motivation for doing it, there's nothing wrong with
it as long as the dog is well cared-for. doG knows there are plenty
enough rescue people who are in it because of their egos. But such
people shouldn't be surprised when they're called on it.


I agree that different people have different definitions of "rescue." We
adopted our current dog from a shelter, but he had a foster and likely
would have stayed with them until adopted, so I wouldn't call him a rescue
dog. My first dog was abandoned by her mother and needed to be bottle-fed,
so in a way I guess I did rescue her. If I didn't take her, she was going
to be put to sleep.

With cats, though, where I have more experience, I've rescued three from
certain death. But that doesn't make them any more precious than the ones I
adopted via pound, abandoned by previous owners, given to me by someone or
whatever. It's just part of their history and makes a nice story to tell.
It shouldn't be THE most important part of their story, nor should I feel
like a saint for doing it.



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On 11 May 2010 05:49:08 GMT, Rocky
wrote:


starcat, please watch your attributions. Other than my contact
info, nothing you quoted came from me.

Time to change emails adresses. It was time.

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[tried to get in the last word, on MY thread!]


Nope!

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