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Old May 15th 10, 02:36 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs? Let
the dogs work it out among themselves? Remy has been known to be quite the
little humper when playing with his dog buddies, and I get conflicting
opinions on what to do, depending on who I ask. He was neutered at 6
months, but I realize now it has nothing to do with this behavior, since
I've seen female dogs do it too, albeit not as often. What I have been
doing with sir-humps-a-lot is leashing him, having him sit, and if he goes
right back to it, leash him again and move him away from the humpee.
However, some people are telling me it's okay to let him go and the other
dog will correct him.

Any thoughts?



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Old May 15th 10, 02:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:37 -0500, "starcat"
wrote:

Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs? Let
the dogs work it out among themselves? Remy has been known to be quite the
little humper when playing with his dog buddies, and I get conflicting
opinions on what to do, depending on who I ask. He was neutered at 6
months, but I realize now it has nothing to do with this behavior, since
I've seen female dogs do it too, albeit not as often. What I have been
doing with sir-humps-a-lot is leashing him, having him sit, and if he goes
right back to it, leash him again and move him away from the humpee.
However, some people are telling me it's okay to let him go and the other
dog will correct him.


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.

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Old May 15th 10, 02:59 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message:


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.


It kind of seems like bullying behavior to me. He has a group of dog
friends, and it seems to happen when a third dog enters the mix. I was
curious, though, about other opinions here, since I've had several dog folk
tell me not to worry about it and to let the dogs work it out. That doesn't
seem like a good idea to me, since I'm concerned he'll pick the wrong dog to
hump and a fight will break out. Plus it seems rude to the other dog.



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Old May 15th 10, 03:08 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:59:52 -0500, "starcat"
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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message:


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.


It kind of seems like bullying behavior to me. He has a group of dog
friends, and it seems to happen when a third dog enters the mix. I was
curious, though, about other opinions here, since I've had several dog folk
tell me not to worry about it and to let the dogs work it out. That doesn't
seem like a good idea to me, since I'm concerned he'll pick the wrong dog to
hump and a fight will break out. Plus it seems rude to the other dog.


Bullying behavior is often dominance-related. I let dogs work out
some things and intervene in others. Humping is rude and obnoxious at
best, and I wouldn't allow my dog to hump other dogs.


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Old May 15th 10, 04:11 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 5/14/2010 9:49 PM, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:37 -0500,
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Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs?


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.


No, it's not.
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Old May 15th 10, 04:12 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On 5/14/2010 9:59 PM, starcat wrote:

It kind of seems like bullying behavior to me.


Wrong again.
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Old May 15th 10, 04:26 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Char" wrote in message
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On 5/14/2010 9:49 PM, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:37 -0500,
wrote:

Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs?


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.


No, it's not.


It's a side effect of over-vaccination and kibble poisoning, doncha know!

Maroon. Unhelpful maroon, at that...

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Old May 15th 10, 04:54 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Char" wrote in message
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On 5/14/2010 9:49 PM, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:37 -0500,
wrote:

Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs?


I would not allow my dog to hump other dogs, whether they are dogs in
our household or otherwise. When neutered dogs hump more or less
indiscriminately, it's usually dominance-related.


No, it's not.


It's a side effect of over-vaccination and kibble poisoning, doncha know!

Maroon. Unhelpful maroon, at that...


Surprisingly, perhaps, I agree. Saying what something is *not* without
providing fact (or even opinion) as to what it *is*, certainly is no more
helpful than telling a dog what not to do, rather than issuing a known
command. It is easy to respond properly to a request to *do* something,
especially if it is incompatible with what one does not want done. "Stop
humping" is confusing, and might be technically obeyed by an even worse
behavior, such as biting or fighting. But "Sit" or "Lie Down" are easily
obeyed and automatically stop the unwanted humping.

I have never seen Muttley hump another dog, person, or anything. I think he
attempted it when he first met Lucky, but she immediately "corrected" him.
She was intact, while he had been snipped more than a year prior to their
meeting, and he had it done at about 1.5 years of age. My own opinion is
that it can be dominant behavior, but it also could be just learned behavior
(especially in late-neutered dogs). Maybe it just feels good?

Paul and Muttley
www.muttleydog.com

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Old May 15th 10, 06:06 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:37 -0500, starcat wrote:

Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping other dogs?
Let the dogs work it out among themselves? Remy has been known to be
quite the little humper when playing with his dog buddies, and I get
conflicting opinions on what to do, depending on who I ask. He was
neutered at 6 months, but I realize now it has nothing to do with this
behavior, since I've seen female dogs do it too, albeit not as often.
What I have been doing with sir-humps-a-lot is leashing him, having him
sit, and if he goes right back to it, leash him again and move him away
from the humpee. However, some people are telling me it's okay to let
him go and the other dog will correct him.

Any thoughts?


Greetings

I had two bitches and a dog all intact and of the same breed (figure out
what from my sig) for a period of many years. Dog was very submissive
to both bitches. Never attempted humping. One of the bitches was very
dominant, she was this pack leader, she never attempted humping any
dog,either home or being out. She was a Confirmation and Obedience dog.
The other beach was also dominant and very often humped the dog who in
turn just turned around to get her off.
Many times her humping was just an invitation to a play and ended like
that. Other times she was ignored by the dog. While being in 'company'
of other dogs she had to be closely controlled due to her dominance,
yet she played with strange dogs without any attempts of humping.

I do not consider humping as a problem unless dog attempts to hump
a human. However I believe you should closely observe the behavior.

What happens when Remy does that 'trick' ? How the other dog behaves ?
How long the humper and the humpee know each other ? If they meet often
how do they play ?

I think you are able to tell if it is a dominance or just a play
from your observation, can you ?

Take care
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Old May 15th 10, 06:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"starcat" said in
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Here's my question: Should you stop your dog from humping
other dogs?


Yes, it often aggravates the other dog and may lead to
fighting.

Let the dogs work it out among themselves?


No.

Remy has been known to be quite the little humper when
playing with his dog buddies, and I get conflicting
opinions on what to do, depending on who I ask. He was
neutered at 6 months, but I realize now it has nothing to
do with this behavior, since I've seen female dogs do it
too, albeit not as often. What I have been doing with
sir-humps-a-lot is leashing him, having him sit, and if he
goes right back to it, leash him again and move him away
from the humpee.


Well done.

However, some people are telling me it's
okay to let him go and the other dog will correct him.

Any thoughts?


Dogs correcting each other and dogs working it out amongst
themselves is not in my rule book. Sometimes it's tempting,
especially when the attacker is inveterate and the attackee is
capable of taking care of itself, but what kind of message are
you giving the dogs?

Forget the attacker - you're teaching the attackee that it's
OK to fight other dogs which get into its space. Apparently,
the people giving this advice have never broken up a full out
dog fight.

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--Matt.
 




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