On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:15:12 -0400, Char
wrote:

On 10/31/2010 3:38 PM, sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On 31 Oct 2010 18:24:43 GMT, wrote:

Glenn said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

As I understand it, in the US (other markets may differ):
Advantage: flea treatment
Advantix: flea and tick treatment
Heartguard/Ivermectin: heartworms and similar parasites.

I cleared up my mistake in a previous post.

You did. Apparently Char responded to a 3 week-old post

Because I skip the majority of posts here due to the flame wars. I only
find something actually relevant to this group on rare occasions.

And this actually isn't relevant to this group.

In article ,
Char wrote:

However, many animal safety groups feel that Frontline may have more
adverse effects than immediate reactions. Fipronil is a neurotoxin. And
while Merial claims that Frontline stays solely within the skin and does
not penetrate throughout the body---other studies, namely one conducted
by the EPA's Dr. Virginia Dobozy found, "significant amounts of
radio-labeled fipronil were found [not only] in various organs and
fat...[but they were also] excreted in the urine and feces and were
present in other parts of the body...which demonstrated that the
chemical is absorbed systemically."

I've always been under the impression that chemicals in general can be
absorbed systemically. For humans it would be all sorts of cleaning
solutions, paint, and pretty much anything that you come in contact
with.

There's a lot of debate about the whole thing, but there are also a lot
of sick people where nobody knows why, illnesses that simply are not
understood yet and doctors who believe that such chemical toxicity may
be the cause.

While I still use topical flea treatments, I do agree that there could
be ramifications of it.

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In article ,
Char wrote:

Then insist on picking her up today. I would, if I were to spay one of
my dogs, although that isn't likely. They don't tell you about the
adverse reactions to the surgery that could happen while she is alone.

My grandmother had a Irish Setter that got it's jaw stuck in the cage
door she was in, broke it trying to get loose and had to be put down.
It's your dog, not theirs!

Oops! I haven't been in this forum for a few days. I figured it was
more appropriate to health so I started posting over there and didn't
check here in my distraction over the issue. (sheepish grin)

We've had quite a discussion going on over there. I'm glad I didn't
read this until AFTER I got her home. As it was I only slept two hours
that night!

As I posted over there, I did try to bring her home that day and he
refused to release her to me. The only offer he made was to transfer
her to an emergency facility with an all night staff at my expense.
This has already stretched me beyond what I was expecting and I simply
couldn't afford the move. As posted in health, I was NOT a happy camper
and felt blackmailed by it. The full discussion is over yonder.

I am very thankful to have her back home safe and sound! And VERY
relieved. :-)

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"Sharon Delarose" wrote in message
...
One vet gave me Ivermectin liquid to measure out by the tenth of a CC
depending on the dog's weight, for heartworm and other worm prevention.
He said it was a lot cheaper than the Heartguard.

..........As already mentioned, was probably cattle ivermectin, which from
what I've read on the bottles in the feed store, has a shelf life of one
year. How long have you had it?

buglady
take out the dog before replying

In article ,
"buglady" wrote:

.........As already mentioned, was probably cattle ivermectin, which from
what I've read on the bottles in the feed store, has a shelf life of one
year. How long have you had it?

buglady

It's been more than a year. I got it not long before our other dog
passed which was summer last year. That's a good point.

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:42:39 -0500, Sharon Delarose
wrote:

In article ,
"buglady" wrote:

.........As already mentioned, was probably cattle ivermectin, which from
what I've read on the bottles in the feed store, has a shelf life of one
year. How long have you had it?

buglady

It's been more than a year. I got it not long before our other dog
passed which was summer last year. That's a good point.

I'd check the bottle for an expiration date.

.........As already mentioned, was probably cattle ivermectin, which from
what I've read on the bottles in the feed store, has a shelf life of one
year. How long have you had it?

buglady


It's been more than a year. I got it not long before our other dog
passed which was summer last year. That's a good point.

Sharon Delarose


I'd check the bottle for an expiration date.
Sighthounds & Siberians


It was indeed expired and is now garbage fodder. Dakota is almost due
for her yearly so I'll get some fresh new Heartguard for her. No doubt
she will appreciate having the tasty treat again :-)

I did a bit of research on expired meds this summer for my own benefit
and I don't know about Ivermectin but people meds vary a lot in what
happens as they age. Some get stronger. Some get weaker. And some get
toxic.

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