"sonofdog" wrote
cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root.

add sage

Perfect! I have some that needs to be dried as well. I also have some
parsley leaf but didn't crop that much of it this year. Tons of mint too
but I'll do that separate as we want it 'just mint' for tea.

"Matt" wrote
"cshenk" said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to
defrost and make a huge 'pork butt' into some meals.

Pork butt (really a shoulder cut) is extremely fatty (which is
why it makes tremendous pulled pork sandwiches!). Even
dehydrators don't get rid of all the fat, so take it easy on how
much of it you give your dog.

I have no real clue what this cut is (grin). It's a huge round ball with no
evident skin and it's bigger than my head!

Yes, a dehydrator wont make this type of meat 'shelf stable' but it will
make it fridge/freezer storable for a long time.

Definately making pulled pork! It's so big, only 1/2 of it will be dog
treats/raw feeding stuff.

(Sammy, Cash, and Daisy-chan are sitting in a row patiently in the kitchen
while Don is trimming it as I read up on the part to dehydrate. Now and
again, he tosses a little bit making sure they get size appropriate little
bits).

Spices? Dunno, but my dry rub contains a lot of onion powder so
my dogs have never shared BBQ.

My BBQ (for people only) isn't right for them either. Thats ok, they get
the other half!

"sonofdog" wrote
cshenk wrote:

http://www.petsugar.com/Which-Season...s-Dogs-4192927

Nice site! I can safely add Dill to the dryer mix if I want.

"Char" wrote
sonofdog wrote:
cshenk wrote:

I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.

Some dogs are prone to seizures from rosemary. Some kibble does have
rosemary in it BTW.

Humm! How about Lavender if you know? They look very similar and are often
used in the same way but lavender is 'stronger resin' flavored. If you like
that flavor, it adds a huge boost to a smoker recipe.

The rosemary is out front, the lavender is in the back yard and both dogs
like to nibble a little. Not much, just a little bit.

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:32:41 -0400, cshenk wrote:


I don't have root versions of parsely or celery but my rosemary 'bush'
definately needs a haircut!

green parts will do as well

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:47:34 -0400, cshenk wrote:


Spices? Dunno, but my dry rub contains a lot of onion powder so my
dogs have never shared BBQ.

My BBQ (for people only) isn't right for them either. Thats ok, they
get the other half!

BBQ is ok if you add your own spices instead of putting on meat some kind
of commercial sauce with artificial/chemical tastes (unless you staff it
with a whole bunch of onion and garlic powders)

On 11/6/2010 9:56 AM, andal wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:55:46 -0400, Char wrote:

On 11/5/2010 7:58 PM, sonofdog wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and
make a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of
meat that was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing
but 'oops' ;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later
use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed
and make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally
the right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it
right, we might want to have some ourselves. That brings in the
question above. (If I were making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't
spice at all but we'd like to share the batch).

I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


Some dogs are prone to seizures from rosemary. Some kibble does have
rosemary in it BTW.

have a proof of it ?

I'm assuming that "it" is proof rosemary causes seizures and not proof
that some kibble has it in it.

http://www.thedogpress.com/Columns/P..._Liquorman.asp

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:58:58 -0400, Char wrote:

On 11/6/2010 9:56 AM, andal wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:55:46 -0400, Char wrote:

On 11/5/2010 7:58 PM, sonofdog wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and
make a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of
meat that was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before
freezing but 'oops' ;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for
later use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination
raw feed and make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork
isn't normally the right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but
if we do it right, we might want to have some ourselves. That
brings in the question above. (If I were making it *just* for the
dogs, I wouldn't spice at all but we'd like to share the batch).

I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of
any spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body
weight) then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


Some dogs are prone to seizures from rosemary. Some kibble does have
rosemary in it BTW.

have a proof of it ?

I'm assuming that "it" is proof rosemary causes seizures and not proof
that some kibble has it in it.

http://www.thedogpress.com/Columns/PetFood-Rosemary-
Neurotoxin-10032_Liquorman.asp

we are talking 'spices' here and not a food ingredients, i doubt you
would feed your pet EXTRACTS of spices in amounts of a once like the
article suggests, btw the page you refer to looks like Enquirer and
contains a lots of links to food pages you usually warn against.

"andal" wrote in message
...

we are talking 'spices' here and not a food ingredients, i doubt you
would feed your pet EXTRACTS of spices in amounts of a once like the
article suggests, btw the page you refer to looks like Enquirer and
contains a lots of links to food pages you usually warn against.

A better resource. Apparently it's rosemary oil that is the culprit, but
I'm assuming there can be individual responses. I think most dog foods list
'rosemary' without explaining the form used.

http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/herbsforpets.html

buglady
take out the dog before replying

On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:44:05 -0500, buglady wrote:

"andal" wrote in message
...

we are talking 'spices' here and not a food ingredients, i doubt you
would feed your pet EXTRACTS of spices in amounts of a once like the
article suggests, btw the page you refer to looks like Enquirer and
contains a lots of links to food pages you usually warn against.

A better resource. Apparently it's rosemary oil that is the culprit,

yes

3.To avoid confusion over Rosemary being included in this list of herbs
that might prove helpful in controlling epilepsy, I asked the authors why
oil of Rosemary is contraindicated for an epileptic and Rosemary (the
plant) is not .

Here is their reply:-

It's very important to know that the essential oil of rosemary, which
represents a concentrated form of a select number of chemical
constituents of the plant, is a very different medicine than the whole-
plant, or a preparation of the whole plant. In other words, where
rosemary essential oil represents only a few parts of rosemary's
chemistry, rosemary tincture or tea represents hundreds of parts of its'
chemistry. From a herbalist's perspective the essential oil is closer to
being a drug than a herbal medicine. "The "whole plant" is always greater
than the sum of its parts......."


but I'm assuming there can be individual responses. I think most dog
foods list 'rosemary' without explaining the form used.

http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/herbsforpets.html

buglady
take out the dog before replying