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Old November 5th 10, 09:21 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are 'dog
safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and make a
huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of meat that was
intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing but 'oops' ;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later use)
but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed and make
'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally the right
flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it right, we might want
to have some ourselves. That brings in the question above. (If I were
making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't spice at all but we'd like to
share the batch).

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Old November 6th 10, 12:58 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and make
a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of meat that
was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing but 'oops'
;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later
use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed and
make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally the
right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it right, we
might want to have some ourselves. That brings in the question above.
(If I were making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't spice at all but
we'd like to share the batch).


I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.

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Old November 6th 10, 04:52 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"cshenk" said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to
defrost and make a huge 'pork butt' into some meals.


Pork butt (really a shoulder cut) is extremely fatty (which is
why it makes tremendous pulled pork sandwiches!). Even
dehydrators don't get rid of all the fat, so take it easy on how
much of it you give your dog.

Spices? Dunno, but my dry rub contains a lot of onion powder so
my dogs have never shared BBQ.

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Old November 6th 10, 04:57 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:52:51 +0000, Matt wrote:

Spices? Dunno, but my dry rub contains a lot of onion powder so my dogs
have never shared BBQ.


that onion already lost its oxidizing power or not ?

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Old November 6th 10, 05:10 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:58:01 +0000, sonofdog wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and make
a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of meat
that was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing but
'oops' ;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later
use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed
and make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally
the right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it right,
we might want to have some ourselves. That brings in the question
above. (If I were making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't spice at
all but we'd like to share the batch).


I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root.


add sage

Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


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Old November 6th 10, 05:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:


http://www.petsugar.com/Which-Season...s-Dogs-4192927

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Old November 6th 10, 06:24 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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sonofdog said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:52:51 +0000, Matt wrote:

Spices? Dunno, but my dry rub contains a lot of onion
powder so my dogs have never shared BBQ.


that onion already lost its oxidizing power or not ?


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1697718/

Applies to dogs, too.
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Old November 6th 10, 11:55 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 11/5/2010 7:58 PM, sonofdog wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and make
a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of meat that
was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing but 'oops'
;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later
use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed and
make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally the
right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it right, we
might want to have some ourselves. That brings in the question above.
(If I were making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't spice at all but
we'd like to share the batch).


I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


Some dogs are prone to seizures from rosemary. Some kibble does have
rosemary in it BTW.
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Old November 6th 10, 02:56 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:55:46 -0400, Char wrote:

On 11/5/2010 7:58 PM, sonofdog wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:21:54 -0400, cshenk wrote:

Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

The reason for asking is this weekend we were going to defrost and
make a huge 'pork butt' into some meals. This is a large amount of
meat that was intended to be cut to more useful pieces before freezing
but 'oops' ;-)

About 1/2 will be turned into human meals (much of ot frozen for later
use) but we plan to take the other 1/2 and do a combination raw feed
and make 'dog dehydrator treats' from some of it. Pork isn't normally
the right flavor for dehydrator jerky for people but if we do it
right, we might want to have some ourselves. That brings in the
question above. (If I were making it *just* for the dogs, I wouldn't
spice at all but we'd like to share the batch).


I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


Some dogs are prone to seizures from rosemary. Some kibble does have
rosemary in it BTW.


have a proof of it ?
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Old November 6th 10, 04:32 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"sonofdog" wrote
cshenk wrote:


Query, does anyone know any specific info on which common spices are
'dog safe' and which are not?

(snippies of reason for question above)

I use rosemary,oregano,basil,parsley root, celery root. Content of any
spices you use should be at much smaller (depends on dogs body weight)
then in your own meat. But no chili or black/white peppers.


Ok! Didn't know about the peppers. Easy to miss here as normally when we
make them dehydrator treats, theirs are with no spices at all.

I don't have root versions of parsely or celery but my rosemary 'bush'
definately needs a haircut!
Excellent, we will need to dry some of the rosemary anyways for winter use.
I'll layer the top tray with some. That should create a sort of flavor
infusion.

 




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