Hi Leah,

Suja says you got my emails piccies of my pup - would you be so kind as
to send them out for people to look at - he is the cutest in the world, ya
know!! blink, blink

Am in the process of building myself a website - going well but slooooowly!!
One day I will be able to get piccies out there all by myself, but for now I
need YOU, please!

Let me know if you can do, thanks

Tracy ))

"Tracy" wrote:
Suja says you got my emails piccies of my pup - would you be so kind as
to send them out for people to look at - he is the cutest in the world, ya
know!! blink, blink

LOL! Yes, I will definitely put them up. But give me a while. I'm on a
mission to get my house cleaned, yard mowed, bills paid, filing done, boxes
unpacked, dogs vetted, yadda yadda yadda. I took vacation this week to do it,
and blew Monday through Wednesday. Monday and Tuesday I was laid low by CFS
(chronic fatigue syndrome) in a way I hadn't been for over a year, and
yesterday we had a huge storm that broke branches off my trees (adding hours of
yard work) and kicked out the electricity for about 6 hours.

Sigh. :}

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"Leah" -OFF wrote in message
...
"Tracy" wrote:
Suja says you got my emails piccies of my pup - would you be so kind
as
to send them out for people to look at - he is the cutest in the world,
ya
know!! blink, blink

LOL! Yes, I will definitely put them up. But give me a while. I'm on a
mission to get my house cleaned, yard mowed, bills paid, filing done,
boxes
unpacked, dogs vetted, yadda yadda yadda. I took vacation this week to do
it,
and blew Monday through Wednesday. Monday and Tuesday I was laid low by
CFS
(chronic fatigue syndrome) in a way I hadn't been for over a year, and
yesterday we had a huge storm that broke branches off my trees (adding
hours of
yard work) and kicked out the electricity for about 6 hours.

Sigh. :}

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Leah!!! So sorry to hear about your CFS!! - I am just crawling out of the
end of a nasty flu virus - fought it for 4 days and then crashed - bed and
tonic was my only course of action, so I kinda understand. And what with
our new pup only being in the house last 2 weeks, it was baaaad! Had to
give him lots of TLC whilst wanting to cry like a baby myself for feeling so
poorly - oh well, I am in the same boat now, just getting over things and
the house needs a good scrub!!

Please dont rush with the pup piccies, I understand completely. Get better
soon.

Holistic therapist mode kicking in --- do you know whats causing your CFS??
If you dont mind me poking my nose in and you wanna send me a private email,
I am happy to respond that way??

All the best,
Tracy )

"Tracy" wrote:
Holistic therapist mode kicking in --- do you know whats causing your CFS??

To make a long story short by paraphrasing my doctor, a lifetime of
above-average intensity, badly-handled stress. :}

The past year has been pretty good. About two months ago I had the flu, and
since then I've had a really hard time staying on an even keel. A friend put
me on a parasite cleanse (which is certainly... um... cleaning me out :}, and I
take iron pills and Sea Silver. When I take everything, I usually can get
through a day fairly well. But sometimes I forget to take it for a couple of
days, and I crash.

This friend shudders every time I let a dog kiss my face. She's sure that all
my problems are caused by parasites. Oh well, cloves and wormwood can't hurt.
:}

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"misty" wrote in message
...
Leah wrote:
A friend put me on a parasite cleanse
(which is certainly... um... cleaning me
out :}, and I take iron pills and Sea
Silver. When I take everything, I usually
can get through a day fairly well. But
sometimes I forget to take it for a couple
of days, and I crash.


Oh really?
http://www.sciencenews.org/20000401/fob4.asp Wormwood is what absinthe
is made from.


Hi Leah - misty is on the right track - get off the Wormwood girl!!!!!!!

Its a major NO, NO in aromatherapy and shouldnt be used in *any* therapy
either internally or externally.

SAFETY DATA: Toxic. Abortifacient.Habitual use can cause restlessness,
nightmares, convulsions, vomiting and, in extreme cases, brain damage. In
1915 the French banned the production of the drink Absinthe with this plant,
due to its narcotic and habit-forming properties.

Regardless of the probable tiny amount in each dose you are taking, it will
accumulate in your system and possibly make you very ill - listen to sound
advice, please!!

Lots of rest, plenty of fluids and gentle exercise would be your best course
of action - and if stress is the major cause of your CFS, yoga and/or
counselling may help, sweetie )

Tracy xx

Forgot to add, regarding your possible need for iron, try natural foods,
rather than supplements - that way, you get fibre **and vit C**, which aids
the absorption of iron into your system - check out link below for good
info.

http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info11.html

Cheers,
Tracy

(misty) wrote:
Something like this I bet:
http://onelifeusa.com/pcleankit.htm

That's exactly it. :}

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:45:23 -0600, diddy
wrote:


I'm reading it now, for about the third attempt. And I am about to put it
down again, because I think this woman is working with VERY stupid dogs,
Her experiences must be really bad with dogs.
I just don't get this book.


OMG - I agree with Diddy about something! ;-D

It's collecting dust on a shelf here somewhere.......
--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:45:23 -0600, diddy
wrote:

Have you read the Culture Clash
If so, what are your opinions regarding it.
I'm reading it now, for about the third attempt. And I am about to put it
down again, because I think this woman is working with VERY stupid dogs,
Her experiences must be really bad with dogs.
I just don't get this book.

I loved the book, though I have to admit I read it several years ago
and don't recall that much about it right now.

What specifically do you disagree with?

--
Leah Roberts, Family Dog Trainer
It's A Dog's World
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/m...age/index.html
Get Healthy, Build Your Immune System, Lose Weight
http://re-vita.net/dfrntdrums

HOWEDY leah,

Leah Roberts wrote:
http://www.whyy.org/news/healthscience.html

Click on "New Pet in the Family"

An article by dra karen overall, melanie and Solo's
TRAINER for the past four UNSUCCESSFUL YEARS.
You and melanie have been LEARNIN HOWE to
pupperly use your pronged spiked pinch choke collars.

dra karen overall for all her PROFESSIONAL INEPTITUDE
SEZ REAL DOG TRAINERS DO NOT USE PRONGED
SPIKED PINCH CHOKE and SLIP CHOKE collars like
HOWE gentleman jack and YOUR BOSS bigb is TEACHIN
YOU HOWE to do, leah.

Looks like you're all abunch of FRAUDS LIARS
DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and PROVEN LONG
TERM INCURABLE ACUTE MENTAL CASES {) ; ~ )

Research on the immune systems of young puppies,

The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME is CAUSED by training.
Your PAL Turid Rugaas VERIFIED it in her OBSERVATIONS
of "AGILITY" dogs BREAKIN DHOWEN from "adrenalin".

BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

THAT "ADRENALINE" COMES FROM ABUSE,
NOT EXXXORCISE. Your dogs NEED EXXXORCISE
to EXXXPIATE their ANXXXIHOWESNESS from bein
JERKED and CHOKED on pronged spiked pinch choke
collars slip choke collars and GL NECK TWISTERS and
LOCKED IN BOXES with no food water or toilet and offered
and withheld BRIBES ATTENTION REWARDS PRAISE
and AFFECTION.

and why they're best off started in classes at a very young age.

The KIND of TRAINING that TRAINED your RECENT
GRADUATE STUDENT Rottie to MURDER that little
INNOCENT DEAD DOG at the park and your other
STUDENT'S Bichon's to RECENTLY MURDER their
own HOWEsbunny and causes NEARLY ALL of
HOWER DOG LOVER'S DOGS to be DEATHLY ILL
from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE
aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME {) ; ~ )

Leah Roberts, Family Dog Trainer
It's A Dog's World

From: -OFF (Leah)
Date: 05 Nov 2002 00:55:40 GMT
Subject: The Puppy Wizard

"Mike E" wrote:
My question was "Is there any legitimacy to the
harshly-worded teachings of the Puppy Wizard?"

Any legitimate advice he gives is plagiarized from
other, more coherent sources.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. :}

PetsMart Pet Trainer
See My Furry Family At:

Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial
about being mentally ill. Has taken
several other mentally ill medications
before settling on effexor for her chronic
mental problems. Recenly changed to
another ANTI PSYCHOTIC prescription.

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he
twists things around in his own mind until he actually
believes what he's saying."

Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous
advice. Google for spike and squirt. And let's not
forget the times he's told posters whose dogs have
medical problems that his halfwits-end program could
cure them.

PetsMart Pet Trainer
My Kids, My Students, My Life



"It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit
was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried
blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs
stiffening quickly.

It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so
that made it much harder for her.

And he was killed by bichons.

Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had
shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I
had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds
for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead.

(The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain")=AD=AD.

Full moon.

Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com

Then she mentioned the names of her dogs,
and I immediately remembered them.

YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE
STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION
classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY
MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.

I will always remember the dogs.

Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN.

You hurt intimidate and murder critters, leah.

"She bit me on the nose. That was a true bite.
Not unprovoked, but still a bite. The snarling
and barking was vicious - the bite was a quick
snap, and the cuts weren't deep."

"Once I was holding her bone for her while she
chewed it (something she loves). She mistakenly
put a tooth in my finger instead of the bone."

"The other time was something I reported here
because I thought it was funny. I was sitting on
the floor with my supposedly agile, coordinated
BC dancing around me, mouth hanging open
with tongue flopping goofily. She tripped over
my legs and fell tooth-first into my forehead."

"Oh, okay. One more, I guess. When I had only
had her a few days, and she hadn't yet learned
not to nip during play, she jumped up and grabbed
my t-shirt, pinching some skin. It hurt but, again,
there was no blood."

Leah's Pinch Collar Class

HOWEDY Charlie,

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote
in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:54:22 ? (UTC), "Alison"
wrote:

Disappointed in you , Leah .

You don't expect a leopard to change his
spots, do you Charlie?

Some of your training posts I copied to pass on

SEE? That's on accHOWEnt of you smoke too much of that
BC bud... must be pretty good STUFF, but should only
be used in an institution under prescription of a
licenced psychyotherapist, IMNTBHO.

but this saddens me.

LikeWIZE, Charle. Both for the dogs leah is abusing
and for yourself who's evidently succumbed to the
evils of the killer weed.

* I think it was out of surprise, not pain. *

leah is a pathological liar like lying "I LOVE
KOEHLER" lynn, Charlie.

If there is *any* doubt of a tool causing pain why
are you using it?

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT DOG ABUSERS DO, Charlie. Look in
The Puppy Wizard's Archives. You'll SEE these lying
dog abusers ALL have a VERY LONG HISTORY of HURTIN and
KILLING DOGS and LYING abHOWET it to defen their
alleged RIGHT to HURT and KILL dogs to suite their
fragile defective ego's and compensate for their weak
minds and inferiority complexes.

Christ. This is way overblown.

You've SEEN there's NO appupriate way HOWE to HURT
dogs to train them.

A twinge of pain that lasts a split second is

What makes dogs VICIHOWES and GETS PEOPLE and DOGS
DEAD.

Ask Diane Whipple. INAPPUPRIATE HANDLING and TRAINING
is what KILLED HER, not viciHOWES dogs. The Puppy
Wizard intends to PROVE THAT IN COURT and get LAWS
WITH TEETH PASSED PROTECTING dogs and children from
HOWER DOG LOVERS and PARENTS PREFERENCES for TOOLS and
METHODS which makes CRIMINALS and WAR.

not the same as beating the damn dog.

IRRELEVANT, Charlie. The Puppy Wizard HIGHLY
recommends you detox from that killer weed so you'll
be able to work with whatever is left of your blHOWEn
away crippled mind.

Let's think critically for half a second, okay?

Put down that BC weed for a week and THEN we can
discuss it.

My experience is that minor, transient pain from
touching a sharp object that doesn't penetrate my
skin, is an instructive rather than traumatizing
experience.

You're an adult human being and UNDERSTAND the risks
and consequences of dealing with dangerHOWES
substances.

I have observed that my dog seems to have about the
same reaction, even though such stimuli, in her
case, have resulted from encounters of her own
choosing.

Right. The dog learns to FEAR porcupines, hot stuff,
and bees.

I say "ouch!" when I poke my wrist with a sharp
piece of sheet metal

You ain't main line runnin that BC weed. are you,
Charlie? HOWE do you cook it down in them little
spoons?

while working on something.

Perhaps you wouldn't be inclined to DO THAT if you had
your Wits' abHOWET you?

A dog yelps when someone yanks on a prong collar.

INDEED. That INHIBITS LEARNING, Charlie, as the dog
ONLY focuses on the PAIN, not the so called LESSON.

I re-position my hand to avoid the jagged point of
metal;

As the dog attempts to ESCAPE.

the dog adjusts its behavior to avoid further tugs
on the collar.

NO. The dog FEARS his abuser and tries to ESCAPE.
That's HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVERS cannot TRUST their
dogs OFF LEAD.

People and dogs are to some extent designed to make
these adjustments without a lot of thought,

INDEED. They REFLEX and DEFEND themselves or RUN HOWET
on their abuser.

and without a lot of trauma

The amHOWENT of PAIN is IRRELEVANT. The FEAR is
permenantely inscribed on the dog's REFLEXIVE MEMORY,
and will be restimulated any time the associated
COMMAND IS GIVEN. That's HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVER'S
DOGS BREAK THEIR COMMANDS. That's HOWE COME lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's SAR dog JIVE WILL NOT SAR a REAL
LIFE SAR JOB, cause HE KNOWS SHE CANNOT HURT HIM IF
SHE DOES NOT KNOW WHERE THE FIND IS.

Conversely, HE KNOWS SHE CAN AND WILL HURT HIM IN THE
TRIAL RING, so consequently, HE GETS HIGH SCORES IN
THE RING ONLY. It's the REVERSE a well know condition
called RING WISE.

provided the pain is not intense or lasting or
associated with physical
injury.

IRRELEVANT. PAIN PRODUCES FEAR. FEAR CAUSES FLIGHT OR
FIGHT. Any time the dog is given a command taught with
PAIN or FEAR, the dog MAY REFLEX to F/F mode, and
ATTACK his abuser or anybody nearby. leah HAS BEEN
BITTEN 5 TIMES by her dog Madigan cause SHE ABUSES
HER.

That's how we learn to get around in a hazardous
world, right?

If you wanna come HOWET lookin beat to rat **** like
you and ME Charlie, that'll work... The Puppy Wizard
wouldn't wanna put nobody but HOWER LYING DOG ABUSING
PUNK THUG COWARDS thru the PAIN HE'S endured.

Leah says she's experimenting

We EXPERIMENT with drugs and masturbation, not HURTIN
DOGS. UNLESS of curse, you're a descartean scientist,
like professor SCRUFF SHAKE.

Take a look at his most recent thread with his little
dog Maxie The Magnificent OBSESSIVELY COMPULSIVE
Masturbator's digestive disorders... THAT'S sumpthin
The Puppy Wizard has been teachin abHOWET here for 5
years NHOWE, Charlie.

IT'S A PREDICTABLE REFLEXIVE VISCERAL RESPONSE to FEAR
of PUNISHMENT and anxiety related to withholding
bribes.

and is not committed to this approach.

leah is and always has been a pathological liar and
dog abuser and is committed to HURTING HER DOGS when
she can't force or intimidate them to do as she wants.
She MURDERED her dog Buck cause she didn't want to
brave the cold Central Florida nights to walk him on
accHOWENT of she wouldn't stop treating his congestive
heart failure with PIZZA and FRENCH FRIES for which
he needed LASIX.

FIGGER IT HOWET GODDAMNEIT

What we're talkin abHOWET is CRIMINAL INSANITY.

What's wrong with that?

NUTHIN. That's HOWE COME we got INSANE ASYLUMS.

I don't think MacKenzie is going to suffer any
trauma.

Not til she gets the OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE and gets
shot by a dog lover like diddler or lying lois e...
like peejoe's DEAD DOG or POISONED like perry's DEAD
DOG Maggie.

One reason dogs make such wonderful friends is
because they live in the moment and they don't nurse
grudges unreasonably.

The Puppy Wizard sez you got to lay off the BC KILLER
WEED for a week or so to straighten HOWET your
thinkin.

Charlie





Adolph Hitler Wrote:

From: "I Am"
Date: 16 Feb 2005 18:57:59 -0800
Subject: Stress And Exercise

HOWEDY melanie,

Melanie L Chang wrote:
I'm on the same email list

Yeah. Most of HOWER dog abusers
are on the same lists...

and frankly, I don't think it's appropriate to
be quoting pieces of an ongoing conversation
from an email discussion list on a Usenet group.

BWEEEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

ONLY in the BEST interests of HOWER dogs, eh melanie?

I don't agree with Turid generally

You cannot DISAGREE with her book "calming
signals," can you, melanie. You're a university
professor of anthropology or sumpthin, ain't you?
Ever heard of the 100th monkey? Here it IS again.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard has been teachin you
lying dog abusing punk thug coward active incurable
long term acute mental cases abHOWET STRESS
as the CAUSE of all temperament and behavior
problems and MOST DIS-EASE for six years NHOWE.

on this topic but there's a lot of
context that Leah isn't giving.

Yeah, on accHOWENT of Turid hasn't CITED
her sources of INFORMATION and you bums
are AFRAID to acknowledge what The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's been sayin on accHOWENT of
THAT would mean you're all lying dog abusing
punk thug cowards and active long term incurable
mental cases... AS PROVEN by your own POSTED
CASE HISTORIES.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
doesn't write to HOWER DOG LOVERS, HE writes
for J.Q. Pubic to WIZE THEM UP pryor to postin here
abHOWETS and becomin a MENTAL CASE like you.


You've been taking your HYPERACTIVE MAN SHY
FEAR AGGRESSIVE dog Solo to UofPA Small Animal
Behavior Clinic since you got Solo five years ago. He's
been in CONSTANT remedial trainin and takin ANTI
PSYCHOTIC drugs FOR YEARS with NO SUCCESS
EXXXCEPT when he was BOARDED for the summer
shen you went to Europe and HE WAS NORMAL for
them withHOWET YOUR ABUSE {) ; ~ )


Your recent thread "Peeing Papillion" EPITOMIZES
the kinda dog abusing mental cases you bums are.
Your recent thread "Home Despot" EPITOMIZES the
kinda INCOMPETENCE you've been TAUGHT at the
UofPA Small Animal Behaivor Clinic under the WIZE-
DUMB of dra karen overall veterinary ethologist.


You can't even take your dog Solo into a pubic area
withHOWET WORRYING that you'll ACCIDENTALLY
GET TOO CLOSE to someWON or some MAN will
INSIST on MAKIN FRIENDS with him.


IN FACT, your own dog Solo TRIED TO ATTACK
a guest in your HOWES when you told them to
offer Solo a BRIBE to make FRIENDS despite
that The Amazing Puppy Wizard and MANY
POSTED CASE HISTORIES PROVE that offerin
FEAR AGGRESSIVE DOGS FOOD BRIBES makes
them FEARFUL and CAUSES them to ATTACK critters.


When you first took Solo to the CLINIC you REFUSED
to DIS-CUSS what they TAUGHT you abHOWET trainin
a MAN SHY FEAR AGGRESSIVE DOG on accHOWENT
of you was EMBARRASSED to tell us they told you to
alphalpha roll and otherWIZE molest and intimidate him.


And you did:


"I LOVE These Stories!"


Notice blackman's comments following this crap:


"A while back someone posted about an Alasdair
MacRae clinic: "Is he gonna hit my dog?!?"


Well, Jack did hit my dog.


Actually I'd call it a sharp tap of the crook to the nose,
and I doubt it was very painful, but it did sort of freak
me out and it DEFINITELY got Solo's attention.


And yeah, I admit that I would prefer not having
my dog whacked, but I signed on to this clinic to
take in the methods wholesale.


In this context, the correction worked -- it's not
something I would do in civilian life, but Solo
can take a lot more around stock than he could
anywhere else since he wants the sheep so badly.


And I know Jack would not have done it if he
though Solo couldn't take it," melanie chang.



wrote in message


...


On 22 Feb 2001 17:58:14 GMT Melanie L Chang



whittled these words:


If you are interested, I posted a description of
my experiences on the Border Collie Boards
that you might find interesting. The URL for the
post (and subsequent discussion) is:
http://www.bordercollie.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000298.html

Wow, that was really great reading.


Diane Blackman
http://www.dog-play.com http://www.dog-play.com/TOTE.html
Be true to your own principles, and hold to them,
else complain not when the world runs contrary.



"I Still Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He
Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?


"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."


You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEHOWES?


From:
Date: 30 Nov 2004 05:22:39 GMT
Subject: Solo's first sheepdog trial (long)


In rec.pets.dogs.activities Melanie L Chang



wrote:

A Novice Handler, a Dog of Middling Talent,



That so? Seems Solo is PERFECT if you ain't ABUSIN him.


and a Sheepdog Trial (or, more than you ever
wanted to know about Solo's first sheepdog trial)


I love these stories.


Solo ran straight up the middle of the field.


I wish I could say that was a foreign experience
to me - but you did a nice job of setting the scene.


The sheep took off in the opposite direction from the way
they were supposed to come (i.e, to me), heels kicking up
and tails going around in pinwheels. "Crazy red dog at
twelve o'clock!" Solo widened out, too late (instead of a
pear, his outrun looked like a keyhole) and then stopped,
and looked at me, and tilted his head.
"What do I do now?"
This surprised me, because what he normally does when sheep
run is run even faster and then try to grab one. But where
I thought he might be out of control on the trial field,
instead, he was over cautious.


A nice kind of surprise.


So I did what they always tell novice handlers with novice
dogs to do when their dogs are in trouble -- I left the post
and helped my dog.


snip


I do think he could have been a dog in the right hands.
But all novice handlers say that about their first and
favorite dogs.


True


I'm not sorry, though. It wasn't a glorious run, but no
one can take that moment -- the one where I looked down at
him, and he looked up at me, and I sent him -- away from
us. You know, the moment right be=3DADfore he ran straight up
the middle of the field. Hey, at least he didn't grab
anything. Our official score was "RET" but I'll claim it
as a "Personal Q."


Great point - you can't possibly succeed at something without
at least trying it. So trying beats dreaming in my book.
--
Diane Blackman

Fantasy Island Agility / ShitsHOWEND / Field / Herding Dog


Trainin Weekend


De PLANE Boss! De PLANE! De PLANE!
De PLANE! De PLANE!


Oh shut up Tatoo, you skeevey little fruitcake.
You always give Mr. Rourke the willies when
you get like that, my simple little friend.


That miserable puddle jumper can be heard
all over the isand. EveryWON knows it's here.
We've been EXXXPECTING it. That stinkin
plane is HOWE we get HOWER hands on
a bundle of those sucker's hard earned dough.
You gotta get used to it, Tattoo you obsessive
little hype.


But Boss! De PLANE, Boss! De PLANE!
De PLANE!


Oh Tatoo, you're gonna drive Mr. Roark
to take lithium and xanax for the next twenty
years like todays guests, if you don't calm
DHOWEN.


Try some Zen breathin like captain haggerty
teaches. "In with the good air, HOWET with
the bad, in with the good air, HOWET with
the bad." See? Isn't that much better my
hyperactive little simpleton friend, Tatoo?


Let's go meet HOWER guests, shall we?


Oh, Tattoo, please bring that plate of
rainbHOWE colored pills for HOWER
guests, they'll be flighty, after their flight.


Be SHORE to advise everyWON to be
careful of drug interactions like this
warning from marybeth: "Yup Diane,
I am taking Zoloft, and my Rheumatologist
told me that taking Ultram with it can
cause seizures."


We've made Shirley Temple coctails for
these special NUT cases, umm, I mean,
GUESTS, Tattoo.


Whisper it in their ears individually. You
know HOWE sensitive mentally ill people
are these days, Tatoo. We'll be working
on that this weekend, Tattoo.


Just remember if anything goes wrong,
it's only a fantasy, Tatoo. Only a fantasy.
Just like where these suckers come from
in the real world Tattoo, they live in their
fantasies. That's HOWE COME they
need to take psychotropic medications.


Some of them think they're trainers or
behaviorists or just ordinary dog lovers
who train their dogs for sport and pleasure,
even when they gotta shock and jerk and
choke them on pronged spiked pinch choke
collars and wring their necks on Gentle Leader
neck twisters and lock them in boxes and ignore
their cries and twist their ears and beat them with
sticks and spray BINACA in their eyes if they can't
control the environment to make it MOORE FUN.


And then they LIE abHOWET it despite
that every thing they've said is indellibly
archived on Google, forever.


That's INSANE. Ain't it, Tattoo. Only a
child or a retard or a psychopath could
think like that, eh,Tattoo?


"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.


You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY, Tatoo???


"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.


Oh! HOWEDY melanie! Tattoo and I were
just talking about that. Pardon, we didn't
see you standing behind us.


You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
We'll be working on that this week, soon as your
little dog Solo's medication is withdrawn, melanie.


Shall we join the rest of HOWER guests?


"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."


Ahhh, HOWEDY mikey! We were just fixin
to join the rest of HOWER guests. Let's join
the others, where it's safe, shall we? Oh,
bye the bye mikey, you think HURTIN dogs
and CRINGING is COURTEHOWES?


Fascinating, ain't it, Tattoo?


Well! HOWEDY professor! We were just
discussing beavior with mikey and melanie.
Care for some chemical anti psychotic
straight jackets? Tattoo, bring HOWER
good professor that plate of rainbHOWE
colored pills and something non alcoholic
to wash it DHOWEN with. Oh, and while
you're at it Tattoo, invite professor SCRUFF
SHAKE'S associate dr. p to join us.


Ahhh! Master Of Deception blankman and
her little dog Toto! Come along, join HOWER
discussion. We was just talkin abHOWET
your friend melanie beatin her dog Solo in
the face with her shepherd's crook, as you
have a propensity to do to your little dog Toto.


Tattoo! Tattoo! Sumpthin's happend to HOWER
guests! They've all suddenly fallen to the grHOWEND
and are flippin like fish HOWETA water!


AMAZING!


They look just like their dogs. Don't they, Tattoo?


"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.
- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.


Lynn K.


"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.


The question is not can they REASON, nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham


"Thank you for fighting the fine fight-
-even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.


The Puppy Wizard sez


"A dog is a dog as a child is a child. They only
respond in PREDICTABLE NORMAL NATURAL
INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE ways to
situations and circumstances of their environment
which we create for them.


ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.


In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


"Terri"@cyberhighway



Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
come forward and actually believe in his training manual=3DAD.
Robert Crim writes:


I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.


The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.


To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.


"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.


Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.



And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
actually admit to buying and having success with his
little black box.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.


Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
to him! LOL!


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Terri


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)


"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with y=3DADou
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.


What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George


"(Also, it is best to killfile posts from t=3DADhe
few regulars here who are either ill-
tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.=3DAD),"
--Marshall



----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dermer"
To: "The Puppy Wizard"

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent=3DAD,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts =3DADto
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
--------------------------------------


"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. {} ; ~ )


GOT MILK?


From: Marshall Dermer )
Subject: Bichon Frise - Help please!
Date: 2001-07-09 09:56:22 PST
In article
The Swan at writes:



Our gorgeous little pup is 10 weeks old and a joy.
She is causing us major worry however. She hates
being left alone for any amount of time.
She loves her crate and is perfectly happy being
in there as long as there is someone in close
vicinity - but as soon as you leave the panic starts.
We have tried leaving her for short periods, she
has toys and snacks with her, we even leave the
tv or radio on for company - but she yips, barks
and whines frantically. She tries to dig her way
out and then soils the crate.
I'm really quite worried about this and would
appreciate any advice you could give.
Thanks in advance.
Anita.


Dear Anita,

First, your little dog is just a "baby" so I would
not assume that what she is doing now predicts
what she will be doing later.


But if you want to change something consider
this. If human attention is a reward for your girl
and you attend to her when she is behaving
anxiously then you are unwittingly encouraging
her to behave anxiously.


Here is an intervention. It involves Differential
Reinforcement of Other Behavior (abbreviated
DR0).


Leave your dog alone and if she does anything
else besides behave anxiously for say 2 sec.
return and offer her a reward (This may just be
your presence.).


When you can reliably leave her for 2 sec
without her behaving anxiously then up the
time to 3 sec. Gradually over a period of
days gradually require her to do something
else beside behaving anxiously for longer
and longer periods of time.


Also, when you play with her immediately
ignore her when she makes anxious sounds
but quickly attend to her when she does not
behave anxiously.


We have a Havanese. He was eight weeks
old when he arrived at our home. He is a
tender guy but that first night when he cried,
alone in his crate, we just ignored him.


It was hard, but we remember finally putting
our little son's crying, at 3 AM, on extinction.


When we put our son's crying on extinction,
that morning his crying got louder and louder
and finally stopped "as if he were dead."


I crawled on my belly to his room until I
could hear him breathing and then returned
to my wife. Today, our son is almost 21
years old and apparently no worse for
the extinction procedure.


As for soiling the crate. We would put the
crate in an enclosed area so our dog could
eliminate on the newspaper rather than in
the crate. One approach is to put the crate/dog
in the bathroom with the door open and
newspaper on the bathroom floor.


--Marshall


OF CURSE EVERY BEHAVIORIST KNOWS DOGS DO
NOT WANT TO **** IN THEIR BEDROOM... even
IF it got newspapers on the floor.


BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!


The Amazing Puppy Wizard {) ; ~ )