"Michael Krantz" wrote in news:bj1i73$e62je$1@ID-
205052.news.uni-berlin.de:

Doesn't that take a couple of years?

It depends on how consistent you are. Once we started seriously house-
training Moolgi, it only took about a week or two until he was 95% house-
trained. We were lazy, and started house-trainineg when he was about 8
months old. House-training involved taking him for a walk first thing in
the morning. (I leave for work at 6:30, so Moogli gets taken out for a 15-
20 minutes walk at about 5:30-5:45 am). He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm. He then gets another
walk outside at about 10pm, just before we go to bed at 11pm. If we are
going to be up later, we will take him out later at night. Whenever he goes
outside, he is always praised, and given a little treat. He is now at the
point where, if he really has to go in the middle of the night, he will
wake me up.

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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

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'Bribe' is such a . . . crass word.
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"Michael Krantz" wrote in message
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"D.Currie" wrote in message
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"Michael Krantz" wrote in message
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We all talked about Koko on Sunday morning. No more muzzle,
except perhaps when toddlers visit. (Today, we had a three
year old over for several hours and kept Koko around with no
muzzle.) No more putting her outside when we are at home,
except when we go outside, usually to put her on the dog run
grass for a few minutes to take care of her business. No
more letting her near the pool when she is outside. (We may
let her in the pool when we go swimming, but we don't that
much; if we do, we'll make sure she has plenty to drink
before and available during.) Apparently, the cage stays
in the guest bedroom; I'm not fighting that, right now.

The general idea is that once she's reliable in the house, you won't
need
the crate, anyway.

Doesn't that take a couple of years?

It shouldn't. And if there are particular issues, like chewing for example,
you can puppyproof a room or a section of the house, and make sure there's
nothing chewable within reach. That was the dog has some freedom.


You might want to see if there's a dogsitting service in your area. They
could come over mid-way through the day to take the pup out. Then you
might
be able to keep the pup inside.

I think it should be possible to find some solution along
those lines, and it becomes increasingly clear that I
should look for one until it do.

Sounds like a halti or something similar. They're used for walking a dog
that has a tendancy to pull when walking on a leash. I have no idea why
they
might be using it inside the house, though.

Maybe it was for walking Koko. That doesn't seem to happen
any more.

As far as the responsibilty, I don't consider taking care of my dogs a
chore, most of it is fun. And the parts that aren't fun are no worse
than
anything else I have to do in the house...what your teenager is going to
find out is that the puppy she brought home is suddenly more your dog
than
hers. Maybe then she'll take more of an interest in care and training.

It's a chore when you don't have time for fun.

It's a chore when you're doing a group activity by yourself.

Well, I guess it depends on perspective. I think training is fun, and
playing with the dogs is fun, etc. Feeding them takes less time than feeding
me. It really doesn't take all that much time, except that the dog is with
you during normal family activities...


She always wanted a dog and been mature and responsible enough
to handle one from an early age, but external factors beyond
her control prevented that. This was a sad, lonely summer for
her in many respects; so I guess the puppy was an opportunity to
make something good of it. Now she has some new good friends.
She should have had this puppy at another time in her life.
Maybe she'll come back to it, and may be she won't.

If she doesn't what are your plans for the dog?

--
Donna

"It's even worse than that. Sometimes I think I'm living in a
perpendicular
universe."

Where is that quote from?

It's an original, as far as I know. I was responding to someone's comment
about a parallel universe.

"Michael Krantz" wrote in message
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"D.Currie" wrote in message
...

"Michael Krantz" wrote in message
...

We all talked about Koko on Sunday morning. No more muzzle,
except perhaps when toddlers visit. (Today, we had a three
year old over for several hours and kept Koko around with no
muzzle.) No more putting her outside when we are at home,
except when we go outside, usually to put her on the dog run
grass for a few minutes to take care of her business. No
more letting her near the pool when she is outside. (We may
let her in the pool when we go swimming, but we don't that
much; if we do, we'll make sure she has plenty to drink
before and available during.) Apparently, the cage stays
in the guest bedroom; I'm not fighting that, right now.

The general idea is that once she's reliable in the house, you won't
need
the crate, anyway.

Doesn't that take a couple of years?

It shouldn't. And if there are particular issues, like chewing for example,
you can puppyproof a room or a section of the house, and make sure there's
nothing chewable within reach. That was the dog has some freedom.


You might want to see if there's a dogsitting service in your area. They
could come over mid-way through the day to take the pup out. Then you
might
be able to keep the pup inside.

I think it should be possible to find some solution along
those lines, and it becomes increasingly clear that I
should look for one until it do.

Sounds like a halti or something similar. They're used for walking a dog
that has a tendancy to pull when walking on a leash. I have no idea why
they
might be using it inside the house, though.

Maybe it was for walking Koko. That doesn't seem to happen
any more.

As far as the responsibilty, I don't consider taking care of my dogs a
chore, most of it is fun. And the parts that aren't fun are no worse
than
anything else I have to do in the house...what your teenager is going to
find out is that the puppy she brought home is suddenly more your dog
than
hers. Maybe then she'll take more of an interest in care and training.

It's a chore when you don't have time for fun.

It's a chore when you're doing a group activity by yourself.

Well, I guess it depends on perspective. I think training is fun, and
playing with the dogs is fun, etc. Feeding them takes less time than feeding
me. It really doesn't take all that much time, except that the dog is with
you during normal family activities...


She always wanted a dog and been mature and responsible enough
to handle one from an early age, but external factors beyond
her control prevented that. This was a sad, lonely summer for
her in many respects; so I guess the puppy was an opportunity to
make something good of it. Now she has some new good friends.
She should have had this puppy at another time in her life.
Maybe she'll come back to it, and may be she won't.

If she doesn't what are your plans for the dog?

--
Donna

"It's even worse than that. Sometimes I think I'm living in a
perpendicular
universe."

Where is that quote from?

It's an original, as far as I know. I was responding to someone's comment
about a parallel universe.

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!

--
Paula
"Where would Science be if every new idea that came along
were greeted with "That won't work", instead of "Let's
TRY it!" You first." -- Doctroid Holmes

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!

--
Paula
"Where would Science be if every new idea that came along
were greeted with "That won't work", instead of "Let's
TRY it!" You first." -- Doctroid Holmes

(Paula) wrote in news:1g0od67.uk8fe51ysv4c7N%
:

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!


First time!!

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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

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'I think so, Brain, but culottes have
a tendency to ride up so.' - Pinky
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(Paula) wrote in news:1g0od67.uk8fe51ysv4c7N%
:

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!


First time!!

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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

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'I think so, Brain, but culottes have
a tendency to ride up so.' - Pinky
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On 03 Sep 2003, Marcel Beaudoin opined:

(Paula) wrote in news:1g0od67.uk8fe51ysv4c7N%
:

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!


First time!!


Heh!

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On 03 Sep 2003, Marcel Beaudoin opined:

(Paula) wrote in news:1g0od67.uk8fe51ysv4c7N%
:

Marcel Beaudoin wrote:

He gets (or is *supposed to*) get
another walk when DW gets home from work at about 5pm.

I just want to say I got a kick out of seeing you using the term DW!


First time!!


Heh!

--
Looking for a pet? Adopt one! ** http://www.petfinder.com
Info for a healthy, happy dog? * http://www.dog-play.com


I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.